Simple Questions/Requests - Mark 46 (Minor Pokemon Trades, Item Requests etc GO HERE) (NO HACKING)

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Okay, so I think I understand now but I'll just create an example to confirm.

1) I've locked in a flawless (31/31/31/31/31/31) Time Machine spread
2) Because my hypothetical luck is insanely amazing, the TM spread will have my TSV of 4015
3) If I DON'T have the Shiny Charm and/or use Masuda Method parents, the PID changes with each egg
4) If I DO have the Shiny Charm and/or use Masuda Method parents, the PID stays the same with each egg
5) If Step 3 is true, the ESV changes because the PID has changed (which is what determines the ESV)
6) If Step 4 is true, the ESV stays the same and all eggs using that TM spread will have the ESV of 4015
7) If Steps 4 & 6 are true, all Pokemon eggs obtained from this TM spread will have: Flawless 6IVs, an ESV of 4015, and the same PID

8) If I'm wrong, please correct me. :)

9) If I'm right, then I better get started on my Shiny Charm! lol

However, what I'm confused/worried about: wouldn't all of the Pokemon obtained using these steps be suspicious/considered hacked if they were ever uploaded to Pokecheck (or something similar) because they all share my OT and have the same PID?

Thanks. :P

Hope that's not too confusing! >_<
1)ok
2)I'm with you
3)correct
4)this is where you have some issues. Each spread (assuming you have the charm) will generate 2 values. One for masuda parents, one for non masuda.
5)back on track
6)see 4
7) depends entirely on the parents you use..no spread will "give you 6 ivs"..assuming you're using a destiny knot, only one will be randomly generated. Also see 4 again.
8)you've mostly got it..check the link in .com sig for more detail.
9)only if you want a static sv..there are advantages to both

And about the legality...the pid isn't checked against other pids. Each pokemon is individually generated based on parentage and completely legitimate.

You should however state that you used this method as some people don't like the idea of save restoration being used (and as part of a trade thread it's definitely something you want to disclose)
 
Kind'a...
  1. I've locked in a flawless 31/M/M/F/M/M spread; where ## = Randomly generated IV, M = IV inherited from Male parent and F = IV inherited from Female parent. (Since 5 IVs are inherited from the parents, there's no such thing as a 31/31/31/31/31/31 Time Machine spread.)
  2. Not a step; ESV (not TSV) is only fixed if you have Shiny Charm and/or Masuda Method parents, and isn't otherwise. Your TSV is fixed (per save file) based on your TID and SID.
    Code:
    TSV  =  ( TID ^ SID ) >> 4;
  3. If I DON'T have Shiny Charm OR Masuda Method Parents (you can't have either) ...
  4. Largely correct. Although it is fixed per case... If you have SC but not MM, it's fixed to one number, if you have MM but not SC, it's fixed to another number, and if you have SC and MM it's fixed to a third number. Which number the egg turns out to be depends on what type of parents you switch in. So if you found the ESV was 4015 with SC and MM, then you'd have to switch in MM parents for this to stay.
  5. Correct
  6. Correct, so long as you obey the points in 4) (that you must keep the combination of MM and SC that you used when you checked the ESV).
  7. Correct, so long as you obey the points in 4), and you observe the inheritance point in 1) (so, for example, you could easily not get a 6IV Pokémon if you switched in (in our example) a Male with an Attack IV of 10).
  8. Okely dokely.
  9. Shiny Charm isn't needed. Like I say, just using Masuda Method parents will result in a fixed ESV too, but you'll need to switch in Masuda Method parents after checking.
No problem; hope my corrections weren't too confusing either... There's a link to a guide in my signature if you want more thorough details of things.

On another note: don't ask if something will be considered a hack (it's one of the rules in the OP of this thread).

Edit: Ninja'd by flargananddingle, but too lazy to read their post to see if I have any other information. If this post is just regurgitated information, sorry. :(
 
1)ok
2)I'm with you
3)correct
4)this is where you have some issues. Each spread (assuming you have the charm) will generate 2 values. One for masuda parents, one for non masuda.
5)back on track
6)see 4
7) depends entirely on the parents you use..no spread will "give you 6 ivs"..assuming you're using a destiny knot, only one will be randomly generated. Also see 4 again.
8)you've mostly got it..check the link in .com sig for more detail.
9)only if you want a static sv..there are advantages to both

And about the legality...the pid isn't checked against other pids. Each pokemon is individually generated based on parentage and completely legitimate.

You should however state that you used this method as some people don't like the idea of save restoration being used (and as part of a trade thread it's definitely something you want to disclose)
Thank you! That's where I got confused - Shiny Charm and MM generate different values.

I'll definitely be checking out the linked guide! :)

Kind'a...
  1. I've locked in a flawless 31/M/M/F/M/M spread; where ## = Randomly generated IV, M = IV inherited from Male parent and F = IV inherited from Female parent. (Since 5 IVs are inherited from the parents, there's no such thing as a 31/31/31/31/31/31 Time Machine spread.)
  2. Not a step; ESV (not TSV) is only fixed if you have Shiny Charm and/or Masuda Method parents, and isn't otherwise. Your TSV is fixed (per save file) based on your TID and SID.
    Code:
    TSV  =  ( TID ^ SID ) >> 4;
  3. If I DON'T have Shiny Charm OR Masuda Method Parents (you can't have either) ...
  4. Largely correct. Although it is fixed per case... If you have SC but not MM, it's fixed to one number, if you have MM but not SC, it's fixed to another number, and if you have SC and MM it's fixed to a third number. Which number the egg turns out to be depends on what type of parents you switch in. So if you found the ESV was 4015 with SC and MM, then you'd have to switch in MM parents for this to stay.
  5. Correct
  6. Correct, so long as you obey the points in 4) (that you must keep the combination of MM and SC that you used when you checked the ESV).
  7. Correct, so long as you obey the points in 4), and you observe the inheritance point in 1) (so, for example, you could easily not get a 6IV Pokémon if you switched in (in our example) a Male with an Attack IV of 10).
  8. Okely dokely.
  9. Shiny Charm isn't needed. Like I say, just using Masuda Method parents will result in a fixed ESV too, but you'll need to switch in Masuda Method parents after checking.
No problem; hope my corrections weren't too confusing either... There's a link to a guide in my signature if you want more thorough details of things.

On another note: don't ask if something will be considered a hack (it's one of the rules in the OP of this thread).

Edit: Ninja'd by flargananddingle, but too lazy to read their post to see if I have any other information. If this post is just regurgitated information, sorry. :(

Awesome! Thanks for the detailed clarification.

As I mentioned to flargananddingle, point 4 is where I got confused. Didn't know that there could be three differently generated values. :P

In regards to my mention of continuously getting a 6IV flawless Poekmon each time I use the spread, I understand that it wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed because one of the parents might not have a 31 IV in the correct place - I was simply assuming/implying that, in each case, both parents already had 6IVs.

In that instance, and as long both parents had 6IVs, all of the eggs WOULD have flawless (31/31/31/31/31/31) spreads, right?

In regards to the last point, about Shiny Charm not being needed: It would still be better to get it, would it not? To increase the chances of my TSV popping up as the ESV?

Assuming, of course, that I use a foreign parent (eg. A Japanese 6IV Ditto) - as the MALE - each time I use the Flawless TM spread? Right?

Thanks for all the help, greatly appreciated! :D

Oh, and getting a flawless spread with my TSV would be insanely tedious wouldn't it? Because I'd need to backup my save via PS to check the egg, before AND after claiming it? If you've already answered this part in your guide, awesome - I'll check it out tomorrow. I need sleep, lol. :/
 
Thank you! That's where I got confused - Shiny Charm and MM generate different values.



As I mentioned to flargananddingle, point 4 is where I got confused. Didn't know that there could be three differently generated values. :P
just 2. Masuda or Non Masuda. The charm only effects that the non masuda spread becomes static
 
Just as I was about to go to sleep I had an epiphany and everything became so clear and obvious, lol.

Can't wait to get started tomorrow on TM breeding! :D
 
Keep or toss?

Latios - #381 (Hasty) : 31 / 30 / 31 / 28 / 31 / 31

I'm leaning keep for personal use... Need opinions

Tossed
 
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I don't know if I can ask this here, but whatever.

Is there any problem with the Powersaves if the "Powersaves" tab says "No online content available"? would that interfere with any backup/cloning/etc I'd do in any negative way to my cartridges? I'm a bit concerned about that; any response would be greatly appreciated.
 
I don't know if I can ask this here, but whatever.

Is there any problem with the Powersaves if the "Powersaves" tab says "No online content available"? would that interfere with any backup/cloning I'd do in any negative way ?I'm a bit concerned about that; any response would be greatly appreciated.
Other (non Pokémon) games have a section for save files that other people have uploaded there; for example, on Super Mario games you might have one that is 100% completed. These aren't available on Pokémon games, so it says "No online content available".
 
So, I finally figured out how to restore my save file and I was able to 'copy' the TSV of two Pokemon, which is really cool. Now, trading tends to be hassle if you want to hatch shinies, so I figured, would it be worth it to get the Shiny Charm and reset eggs until I lock myself into a shiny and back up that save? I believe the odds are about 1/512 or so. Not too bad, right? Although, technically, odds are actually 1/3072 if you're specifically looking for a physical or a special spread. =/
If you are trying to lock yourself into a shiny spread, I can give you some handy tips.
If you don't care about gender, breed with both magikarp (different OT of course for higher egg chance). One with 0 ivs straight, and another one flawless (just to sort of find right away what IVs do both parents give). If you want to aim for a spread that gets you all female, then breed with both togetic because togepi is the fastest to hatch from the low female gender ratio. (Do the same steps as the magikarp thing I said above).
I was so darn lucky to get the second best spread HA x/31/x/x/x/x in my first TSV match, the best spread is 31/x/x/x/x/x.

Edit: BTW if you failed on national breed, soft reset, take out one of your parents and put in a japanese ditto for a second chance. (inheritance doesn't change, only TSV of course)
 
Other (non Pokémon) games have a section for save files that other people have uploaded there; for example, on Super Mario games you might have one that is 100% completed. These aren't available on Pokémon games, so it says "No online content available".
Oh, that makes a lot of sense; thanks for clearing it up! you saved me from a huge headache. lol
 
If you are trying to lock yourself into a shiny spread, I can give you some handy tips.
If you don't care about gender, breed with both magikarp (different OT of course for higher egg chance). One with 0 ivs straight, and another one flawless (just to sort of find right away what IVs do both parents give). If you want to aim for a spread that gets you all female, then breed with both togetic because togepi is the fastest to hatch from the low female gender ratio. (Do the same steps as the magikarp thing I said above).
I was so darn lucky to get the second best spread HA x/31/x/x/x/x in my first TSV match, the best spread is 31/x/x/x/x/x.

Edit: BTW if you failed on national breed, soft reset, take out one of your parents and put in a japanese ditto for a second chance. (inheritance doesn't change, only TSV of course)
Thanks for the tips. =)

Yeah, I'm already using the Magikarp trick, been using it since forever lol. I'm currently collecting Pokemon I don't have to get that Shiny Charm.

Also, I saved a physical spread with HA this time around, bred something and traded it to my other game so I could revert the same file, but then I decided to collect stuff for my dex and I didn't want to undo that so I was like meh and didn't breed a second Pokemon to check later. Decided to check the egg on my other game. It had a different TSV! How can that be? Both the test subjects from a few posts back and this one were bred with a Japanese Ditto. Or is it that the TSV is locked per spread (when using Masuda) but you can try until you find a spread that you can match with someone?

One other thing, to get the Charm, do you need to OWN the Pokemon or is having seen fine? The internet seems to be divided over this.
 
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Thanks for the tips. =)

Yeah, I'm already using the Magikarp trick, been using it since forever lol. I'm currently collecting Pokemon I don't have to get that Shiny Charm.

Also, I saved a physical spread with HA this time around, bred something and traded it to my other game so I could revert the same file, but then I decided to collect stuff for my dex and I didn't want to undo that so I was like meh and didn't breed a second Pokemon to check later. Decided to check the egg on my other game. It had a different TSV! How can that be? Both the test subjects from a few posts back and this one were bred with a Japanese Ditto. Or is it that the TSV is locked per spread (when using Masuda) but you can try until you find a spread that you can match with someone?

One other thing, to get the Charm, do you need to OWN the Pokemon or is having seen fine? The internet seems to be divided over this.
As .com said above, if you don't have the shiny charm and you aren't doing masuda breeding, TSV changes (IVs part don't).

As for the shiny charm, you need to have it's dex entry (not just seen) besides the event pokemon.
 
As .com said above, if you don't have the shiny charm and you aren't doing masuda breeding, TSV changes (IVs part don't).

As for the shiny charm, you need to have it's dex entry (not just seen) besides the event pokemon.
So, I'm using Masusa parents while save restoring. Shouldn't that fix your TSV for that spread?
 
So, I'm using Masusa parents while save restoring. Shouldn't that fix your TSV for that spread?
I don't think it would, I mean mine never does. You can test it out.
Scratch that, what do you mean by fixing? You mean if it changes? Mine never changes unless I use parents from different countries but I get the same TSV I should get for different country parents.
 
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I don't think it would, I mean mine never does. You can test it out.
Scratch that, what do you mean by fixing? You mean if it changes? Mine never changes unless I use parents from different countries but I get the same TSV I should get for different country parents.
Honestly, I should've done some testing, but the first time I did a test, I got 0700 as a TSV (had a physical non-HA spread). Bred two Pokemon with my Japanese Ditto with save restoration (browser injection). Second time I got a good spread (HA physical), I got 2550 as TSV, but I didn't test it again like I mentioned. After I get closer with my dex, I'll sr again until I find a spread and will test that.
 
I am still looking for the following, IV bred Pokemon available FT

Female Remoraid in a Fast Ball
Female Eevee in a Ultra Ball / Dive Ball / Dream Ball
Female Spheal in a Dive Ball
Female Houndour in a Luxury Ball
 
SR'd a 31/31/30/27/31/31 Modest Heatran in a Premier Ball. It's HP Dragon which is no good, I should probably reset right? 27 is probably a bit low isn't it?
 
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