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ir0n said:
what's better between mega swampert and mega sceptile in OU?
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That tends to be a matter of team preference. Swampert is mainly used as a bulky Swift Swim Sweeper for Rain teams, since he can take hits decently well and gets pretty good coverage with his STABs.

Sceptile is more of a fast Pokemon played for either hit-and-run or cleaning thanks to his very high speed and decent offenses. Sceptile makes a very good anti-offense mon, but his typing leaves him with a lot of weaknesses that mean he has to watch out for bulkier attackers and priority.

The two don't tend to fit on the same types of teams, in that you won't find yourself building a team and then needing to fill a slot that either of them could do.
 
Force Majeure said:
Is SD + 3Attacks Gliscor at all a good idea?

I've been messing around with S.Def Swords Dance Gliscor in combination with P.Def Unaware Clefable and Ferrothorn as part of a balance team and I've noticed myself using Roost very rarely.
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I'm not sure if dropping Roost is a good idea, since it lets you screw over Lati@s pretty easily as you can take a Draco Meteor and easily heal off the damage, meaning it can't KO Gliscor at -2. If you have something to cover Lati@s, then
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Not exactly. It also has earth power to get past steel-types, healing wish, synthesis, natural cure and rest which makes it harder to wear down.
 
Uh I never said that Celebi can't run offensive sets effectively. I just said that celebi doesn't run offensive sets that much. If we're thinking about offensive grass-types, you'd think of serperior first, which is why shaymin is more comparable to serperior as an offensive grass type, because as you said celebi tends to run defensive sets more.
 
Offensive Celebi is worse than offensive Shaymin because Celebi is limited to Leaf Storm or Giga Drain for effective STABs, whereas Seed Flare is an objectively better move for an offensive Pokemon. The Pursuit weakness also hurts offensive Celebi, since Leaf Storm is its best option, it will be forced out more often than Shaymin.

EDIT: Also, Celebi gets Healing Wish as well so that isn't really an advantage of Shaymin. It gets Seed Flare and isn't weak to Dark. That's pretty much where it's advantages end.
 
Celticpride said:
You're missing the point. Celebi generally runs defensive sets because those are generally better in the meta. That does not mean that it is any less of an offensive Grass type than Shaymin. Shaymin's sole advantage is Seed Flare (and I guess Healing Wish). How it Shaymin more comparable to Serperior? All they share is Grass typing really, the movepools and stats aren't too similar. You don't compare Garchomp and Dragonite solely as offensive Dragon types because that's the typing they share.
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They are similar because both of them rely on boosts to get past their checks and counters. Serperior has contrary leaf storm to boost special attack, shaymin has special defense drops from seed flare to muscle past its checks and counters.
 
pika pal said:
That tends to be a matter of team preference. Swampert is mainly used as a bulky Swift Swim Sweeper for Rain teams, since he can take hits decently well and gets pretty good coverage with his STABs.

Sceptile is more of a fast Pokemon played for either hit-and-run or cleaning thanks to his very high speed and decent offenses. Sceptile makes a very good anti-offense mon, but his typing leaves him with a lot of weaknesses that mean he has to watch out for bulkier attackers and priority.

The two don't tend to fit on the same types of teams, in that you won't find yourself building a team and then needing to fill a slot that either of them could do.
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Thank you for your answers pika pal and force majeure, I now know that they are pretty much a matter of preference, but what do you think is the easiest to use between these two for a beginner like me?
 
Healthy reminder that other advantage shaymin has over celebi is tailwind which can be invaluable support for a team. To be honest, Id rather run shaymin or serperior over offensive celebi, having to use leaf storm and having to switch out with a pursuit weakness is simply terrible.
 
ir0n said:
Thank you for your answers pika pal and force majeure, I now know that they are pretty much a matter of preference, but what do you think is the easiest to use between these two for a beginner like me?
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Personally, I would argue that it's easier to use Mega Sceptile because it doesn't require rain support. While Rain teams are very good, I find that they are a bit less easy to use in practice. On the other hand, a generic balance team or offensive team tends to be easier to use since you don't have to worry about trying to reset your weather condition 8 turns later while maintaining or re-establishing momentum.
 
Sanger Zonvolt said:
Personally, I would argue that it's easier to use Mega Sceptile because it doesn't require rain support. While Rain teams are very good, I find that they are a bit less easy to use in practice. On the other hand, a generic balance team or offensive team tends to be easier to use since you don't have to worry about trying to reset your weather condition 8 turns later while maintaining or re-establishing momentum.
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Ok thanks I guess I'll choose sceptile when I'll buy oras
 
The other possibility might have been that it used a negative priority move such as roar. Why it was carrying roar I have no idea why, just a possible explanation.
 
Prosecutor Godot said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-222492519

could someone look at this game and tell me how Chesnaught outsped Mega-Swampert turn 5? Maybe I'm just slow, but I've tried wrapping my head around it but can't figure it out.
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If they were using Avalanche, which I assume is the negative priority move that was used there, then that's probably why. More than likely they used that for Ice coverage not realizing it has negative priority and as such that happened.
 
Could someone please explain the EV spread for the standard DD Mega Altaria to me (the one listed on the Altaria analysis page)? What benchmarks do 64 hp and 192 atk hit that makes it the most effective spread? As far as I can tell it is not explained in the analysis and I could not find the answer online, thanks in advance.
 
matthewhills said:
Could someone please explain the EV spread for the standard DD Mega Altaria to me (the one listed on the Altaria analysis page)? What benchmarks do 64 hp and 192 atk hit that makes it the most effective spread? As far as I can tell it is not explained in the analysis and I could not find the answer online, thanks in advance.
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Idk why that spread is still on the calc, but the most efficient spreads and reasoning can be found here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/altaria.3523195/
 
Do you mean as in the double-water type? Having two of the same type on a team is perfectly fine, just make sure you cover their weaknesses well. Also I don't know if Quaggy would work on that core, but I cant judge since I dont have experience.
 
DarkNostalgia said:
Do you mean as in the double-water type? Having two of the same type on a team is perfectly fine, just make sure you cover their weaknesses well. Also I don't know if Quaggy would work on that core, but I cant judge since I dont have experience.
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I have a team with mega sceptile bronzong quagsire rotom-w heatran and sylveon.I need quagsire as a good physical wall
 
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