As iamQmai said Heatran is a good partner but look here for more cores around celebi and maybe around other mons in the future.
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Yes, HP Ice doesn't affect the Speed IV's, and the speed tier Cobalion hits when it runs Jolly is quite crucial as it allows it to outspeed mons like Mega Gardevoir and Garchomp.
That set is a little outdated, but assuming you're running Expert Belt, Jolly should be fine. It still manages to 2HKO Defensive Lando-T with HP Ice, which is about as good as you're going to get.
0- SpA Expert Belt Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 206-245 (53.9 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
If you're running Leftovers instead, you still have a good chance to 2HKO after Rocks.
0- SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 172-204 (45 - 53.4%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
I think he means if it is worth dropping either SpA (Jolly) or dropping some SpD (Naive)
4- SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 164-196 (39 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
4 SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 180-216 (42.8 - 51.4%) -- 53.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
4- SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 180-216 (50.8 - 61%) -- 43.8% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal
4 SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 204-240 (57.6 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
4- SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 176-208 (46 - 54.4%) -- 3.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
4- SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 176-208 (46 - 54.4%) -- 95.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Cobalion Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 192-228 (50.2 - 59.6%) -- 78.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
In my opinion Naive is better than Jolly just by looking at the calcs above.
Alright! Thanks for your answers!
Another question, if the set's outdated, then what would be its best set?
Oops, my bad :p
If its a defensive set with HP Ice just to surprise Gliscor/Lando/Chomp on the switch, I'd still recommend Jolly, because that loss in SpDef isn't worth it imo, but if its an offensive set, Naive is more beneficial...however, Cobalion's main niche in OU is its Rocker/Pivot set.
A stall team that relies on a win condition rather than simply outstalling the other team. Something like Bulky DD Mega Altaria or Sp Def SD Talonflame are decent examples, they function as a part of the defensive core of the team while being able to tear apart the opposing team after specific things have been weakened.
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Hello guys. I have a question regarding which is the most effective set of mega altaria currently? And why is frustration used rather than return?
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There's no actual difference between Frustration and Return. Frustration sees use in order to mess up Ditto users, who have to change Ditto's Happiness in order to reach a full power attack.
Mega Altaria's best set generally depends on the team you pair it with more than anything, as it's difficult to compare them since they all play so differently. Offensive teams generally use the DD 3 Attacks set for a powerful win condition, or the special attacker set in order to put holes in the other team. Defensive teams usually stick with the support set.
thanks for the reply. For an offensive team does tje DD + 3 attacks set uses 252 ev in both attack and speed? Or there is a better spread? And what ability is better to have in altaria?
DD + 3 attacks is mainly 252/252, but the best DD Mega Altaria set is probably the mono attacker set, with heal bell, roost, dd, and return/frustration. It allows MegaAlt to stay healthy throughout the match and heal off status that can usually stop a sweep like paralysis or burn. This spread is probably the best one because it allows Mega Altaria to set up on a ton of mons while still being powerful enough to sweep. Shouts out to scotti for showing off this great set in an RMT.
Altaria @ Altarianite
Ability: Natural Cure
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration
- Heal Bell
- Roost
Ability: Natural Cure
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Frustration
- Heal Bell
- Roost
Here are some calcs that he posted to show the set's bulk:
- 252 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 139-165 (39.2 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
- 252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria in Sun: 150-177 (42.3 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
- 252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Altaria: 128-151 (36.1 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
- 252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 133-157 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 127-151 (35.8 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
- 252 Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 144-169 (40.6 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
- 252 Atk Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 132-156 (37.2 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage
- 252 Atk Mega Lopunny Return vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Mega Altaria: 135-160 (38.1 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
The ability is rather inconsequential, but if you had to choose go with Natural Cure to heal off burn/paralysis/toxic for free if you switch into one or whatever. It'll barely ever come into play tho so don't sweat over it
I mean it lets you switch on Zard-Y to let you stall it out but you need to be bulky to tank Fire Blasts lol. Cloud Nine won't see a whole lot of use tbh where as Natural Cure gives you a status buffer. I guess it's preference but I don't ever find myself wanting to use Cloud Nine based on unrealistic circumstances these days.
Is SD + 3Attacks Gliscor at all a good idea?
I've been messing around with S.Def Swords Dance Gliscor in combination with P.Def Unaware Clefable and Ferrothorn as part of a balance team and I've noticed myself using Roost very rarely.
I've been messing around with S.Def Swords Dance Gliscor in combination with P.Def Unaware Clefable and Ferrothorn as part of a balance team and I've noticed myself using Roost very rarely.
Won't know till you try it man
It really depends because they're not terribly easy to compare. Swampert demands a rain core in OU (more or less) to make use of Swift Swim, meaning that you'll be somewhat constricted as regards teammates. Swampert is a physical attacker that can bust holes in opposing teams with Rain Boosted Waterfalls and powerful coverage in Earthquake.
Sceptile is a brutally fast Grass/Dragon that relies on hit-and-run with Leaf Storm or Dragon Pulse to pick off weakened threats. It also turns opposing electric types into a liability as it gets a free +1 SpA when switching in to an Electric attack.
Many times (but certainly not all) you can use Serperior as a fast Grass-type, although it's much slower than Sceptile and gains momentum with each Leaf Storm rather than losing it. In the same way, Kabutops is sometimes used instead of Swampert (or vice-versa) as a physical Rain attacker.
Swampert is ranked B+ in the viability rankings; Sceptile is B. Take that how you will: each is a fine mon that fits on different types of team.
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