DOU Doubles Winter Seasonal Round 9 [Losers' Only Round]

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Stratos

Banned deucer.
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SPECIFIC RULES
  • This is a standard ORAS Doubles tournament
  • This tournament will be Double Elimination
  • All rounds will be Best of Three. You may switch teams in between battles of the same set.
  • Matches are to be played on Pokemon Showdown!
  • To encourage the development of the metagame, and so that everyone is on an even playing field, all matches must have replays recorded. If neither player posts replays of the match, both players will suffer an automatic game loss. (If you were in losers' when you played, you are both out. If you were in winners', the winner is in losers' and the loser is out.)
  • Every round, I will choose a match (possibly two) as the Highlight Match. If your match is chosen as the highlight match, two of our commentary crew (myself, Lohgock, Arcticblast, Laga, BLOOD TOTEM) will be commentating your match through the SmogonU Twitch, and it will then be uploaded to Smogon's YouTube. I will contact both players by PM immediately in order to schedule a time. If either player wishes to not be streamed, they may opt out, but let me know quickly, so I can choose someone else to be the highlight match for the week.
  • Didn't think I needed to say this, but please do your best to play your entire bo3 in one sitting. It's ok if you have to leave because of unforseen events, but going into game 1 knowing that you won't be finishing game 3 right then is against the spirit of a best of 3 set. If you refuse to finish your set but stick around chatting, I will think less of you as a person.
Standard Rules and Clauses
  • Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokemon with the same PokeDex number on his team.
  • Evasion Clause: The moves Double Team and Minimize are banned. (No other evasion boosting things are banned).
  • OHKO Clause: The moves Horn Drill, Guillotine, Sheer Cold, and Fissure are banned.
  • Endless Battle Clause: Anything capable of intentionally creating an endless battle is banned.
  • Uber Clause: Anything that appears on Smogon Doubles' banlist is banned. Because the dex page is outdated (i put in a pull request like three weeks ago but it hasn't been approved), this is the banlist for Smogon Doubles:
  • Mewtwo
  • Lugia
  • Ho-oh
  • Kyogre
  • Groudon
  • Rayquaza
  • Dialga
  • Palkia
  • Giratina
  • Giratina-O
  • Arceus
  • Reshiram
  • Zekrom
  • Kyurem-White
  • Xerneas
  • Yveltal

  • Dark Void

  • Salamencite
Identity

I expect many battles to be completed under alts. This can be bad for tournament security, and thus I will make this clear: If I hear any whispers of identity theft (battling as someone you are not) or proxy battling (helping someone else battle through pm) I will not be pleased and I will take severe actions.

Scouting

Next, I do not want to hear anything about counterteaming, at all. Do not complain about it. I also don't want to hear about any blatant scouting. There is a difference between "[user] is known for using stall" and "let me follow [user] around all day to watch all his battles since I am his opponent". I expect a lot of the former and none of the latter. I give permission to all battlers to ask any person spectating their battle to leave if they do not want them watching. Everyone will have access to your replays from earlier rounds though.

Timer Clause

As for taking long between moves, if your opponent asks you to hurry up, please oblige. If you are doing a damage calc for a key turn that is one thing, but prolonging every move is suspicious and annoying. Don't do it. Furthermore, Battle Timeout is a rule for a reason. If you run out of time, you lose, simple as that. It does not matter what your opponent says. Do not battle if you think you will have to leave mid battle, and instead reschedule for a better time.

Disconnections

Finally, in the case of a disconnect, the decision is in the hands of the player who did not disconnect. The options are: redo the battle move for move, redo the battle with the same teams but different moves, or redo the battle with completely different teams. If the battle was without a doubt over, they may also take the win. Any suspicion that a disconnect was committed on purpose to redo a match may be appealed to me, and if I feel this happened there will be severe consequences, don't do it.

Round 9 Matchups:

Loser's Bracket:

Krauersaut vs TheFourthChaser game 1 game 2
Lunar. vs -Tsunami-
Stratos
vs KyleCole game 1 game 2
makiri vs Hashtag game 1 game 2 game 3
Tokyo Tom vs U-turn Out game 1 game 2
Darkmalice vs Vinc2612
Electrolyte
vs Tricking game 1 game 2
Pinoy Pwnage vs Improbable

Highlight Match: Tokyo Tom vs U-turn Out

Scheduling Rules:

USE VM WALLS!
If you really don't want to schedule via a VM conversation, then post in this thread to let me know that you are in contact with your opponent some other way. If you use VM walls, you do not need to post in this thread to let me know. (If you don't know how to access your opponent's VM wall, type their name in the search box like shown). If neither player has established contact by the sub date, you will be at risk of a double sub. If one player has contacted and the other has not responded, he will be at risk of a sub. Unless you have clearly scheduled for a date shortly after the deadline (and cannot make a date before the deadline) you will be given an activity call instead of an extension. I'm not making the calls, so I can't promise what will or won't make you safe, but I know that activities which will up your chances are posting specific times on your opponent's wall, responding to their VMs promptly, and posting any IRC logs of you scheduling in this thread.

Extension Deadline: Wednesday April 22 at 9:59 PM EST
Deadline: Sunday April 26 at 9:59 PM EST
 
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tfw you get a hard matchup, but its one of the easiest compared to other peoples o.o

contacting now.

Stratos vs KyleCole - kyle's only chance of winning is if he pulls a joey and names his pokemon www.youtube.com/user/thekylecol3
makiri vs Hashtag - will be a great match to watch
Tokyo Tom vs U-turn Out - u-turn out is more experienced in doubles, but tokyo tom is a beast n_n
Electrolyte vs Tricking - i have faith in ZLECTROLYTE
 
glad that being rude to your opponent and lying can get you activity win. awe well. cool rules
you did not respond to a vm for five days

you did not respond to a vm for five days

you did not respond to a vm for five days

unless you supply me with chat log or pm screenshots, there is no universe in which you can make a valid complaint about taking an activity loss.
 
hello? i post in the thread direct reply to him asking again when he can play, and all he says is he can play now and is moving again
he also say "im around all the time" while i wait for 14 hours on saturday and he wasnt there too, can i activity win that too??
he never say anything except "i can play now" and i am busy
makes no sense he never gives me a time either and i get a lose automatically because he wouldnt give me a time when i ask 2 times
2 activity lose in a row when my opponent dont wanna fight me. good bye.
 
hello? i post in the thread direct reply to him asking again when he can play, and all he says is he can play now and is moving again
he also say "im around all the time" while i wait for 14 hours on saturday and he wasnt there too, can i activity win that too??
he never say anything except "i can play now" and i am busy
makes no sense he never gives me a time either and i get a lose automatically because he wouldnt give me a time when i ask 2 times
2 activity lose in a row when my opponent dont wanna fight me. good bye.

Hi I'm sorry that this happened to you, i know that it must be frustrating for you. I feel like anyone new to smogon in liable to get activity losses in a few tours before they really get the system down pat. I know i did.

I have found that the most important thing that tour hosts consider when deciding activity is the VM walls. You can also provide screenshots of other attempts to schedule, but unfortunately for you, the information that is available to tour hosts (which is just your vm wall) does not look great for you since you didn't respond to that post.

In the future, if your opponent is being vague like this, you should start naming specific times and dates that you will be able to play, and if your opponent doesn't cooperate, then you will be the one awarded activity if the game doesnt get done. I hope this is helpful for you.

Stratos feel free to correct me on anything.
 
Hi I'm sorry that this happened to you, i know that it must be frustrating for you. I feel like anyone new to smogon in liable to get activity losses in a few tours before they really get the system down pat. I know i did.

I have found that the most important thing that tour hosts consider when deciding activity is the VM walls. You can also provide screenshots of other attempts to schedule, but unfortunately for you, the information that is available to tour hosts (which is just your vm wall) does not look great for you since you didn't respond to that post.

In the future, if your opponent is being vague like this, you should start naming specific times and dates that you will be able to play, and if your opponent doesn't cooperate, then you will be the one awarded activity if the game doesnt get done. I hope this is helpful for you.

Stratos feel free to correct me on anything.
this is all spot on
 
hello? i post in the thread direct reply to him asking again when he can play, and all he says is he can play now and is moving again
he also say "im around all the time" while i wait for 14 hours on saturday and he wasnt there too, can i activity win that too??
he never say anything except "i can play now" and i am busy
makes no sense he never gives me a time either and i get a lose automatically because he wouldnt give me a time when i ask 2 times
2 activity lose in a row when my opponent dont wanna fight me. good bye.
i asked you to name a time when u replied in the thread.

if im your best friend and i think we should go to movies on saturday but i don't text you to go to the movies on saturday, how the fuck am i supposed to expect you to go to the movies on saturday?

also, don't pull "14 hours" bs on me, i was online on saturday, and I .seen Jody Highroller'd. you, and public pasted "this user has never been seen" into the chat.

"i can play now" AND "when can you play"? not only did you never reply to my VM's, it's not like you made ANY MORE of an effort than me.

You didn't ask two times, you posted your timezone in one and bitched in the other.

Don't play the poor, hapless victim when you couldn't be fucked to propose a time yourself.
 
Quitting, I don't like how Ponymon is running the tournament and deciding activity. Everything just seems to be at the whim of him and whatever side of the bed he wakes up on. I've been running tournaments probably longer than he has been alive and I have zero confidence in him to make the correct call. If the rest of the circuit is going to be like this because he is the head then I feel it is unnecessary to even attempt playing in anything run by him.
 
  • Didn't think I needed to say this, but please do your best to play your entire bo3 in one sitting. It's ok if you have to leave because of unforseen events, but going into game 1 knowing that you won't be finishing game 3 right then is against the spirit of a best of 3 set. If you refuse to finish your set but stick around chatting, I will think less of you as a person.
x;x

edit: x;x is apparently too salty, so....

e.e
 
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i finally *ba dum tss* got kicked out of this tour. top 32 through aids teams and activity wins is not bad, not bad at all.

rooting for tokyo tom and tfc to take it all the way ;]
 
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