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[JALMONT]

No, I'm saying that flipping the alignment of a controversial figure early on in the game will add a lot of context to associations at a point in the game where scum can't know how the game is going to go yet. It'll be easier to figure out everyone else's alignments based on what you are.

I'm not sure how many associations there really are given that I think like half the playerbase ignored me and and others have basically said very little of note about me. But fair enough if you feel that way.

Does person with most votes get lynched at deadline? If so, no need to hammer to end the day early since we don't get punished for it.

 

[Fatecrashers]

seriously fuck spiffy but

lynch PokeguyNXB

 

[vonFiedler]

Every vote doesn't have to be a wagon you nooblet.

But at the time, I had gone on record that my vote would be for HD and that the only reason I wasn't was because that wagon was picking up steam. So you want me to vote, but you don't want me to vote for HD, and you don't want me to vote for you, and now you don't want me to vote for Jalmont. But those are my options. Sorry if it doesn't satisfy you to do exactly what you asked for.

I also really don't like how you fuel the incorrect assumption that a large fight between two players must mean that one of them is mafia. This has been proven time and again to be untrue, and seems to be an excuse for everyone to focus their attention solely on said fight.

"must" mean, stop putting words in my mouth. I'm pretty certain on an individual level that you both are scum, and that only stops making sense when you consider your behavior towards each other. Don't twist my posts.

want to know what changed von's mind about Jalmont, who he seemed to think was village on Day 1.

Made that pretty clear in a recent post dude. He's acting scummy today. Taking a lie and stretching it beyond belief. How is this not easily catchable?

I'd also like him to realize that not everyone that challenges or disagrees with him MUST be mafia. <3

Is the <3 supposed to be cute? As in, why yes, that's something an argument I've used multiple times in this game, thank you for repeating it. On the other hand, it's not as if once someone lynches you they have immunity from being lynched by you. I gave my reasons, Amianki gave his, you chose to ignore them.

Lynching someone because it would give us information is stupid, especially when the player arguing this hasn't even attempted to share their opinions on half the game.

Amianki has been consistently more insightful this game than you, so don't talk shit. You ignore things that aren't convenient for you, and that's scummy.

 

[vonFiedler]

I on the other hand do not ignore things just because they aren't convenient.

Does person with most votes get lynched at deadline? If so, no need to hammer to end the day early since we don't get punished for it.

If this isn't a trick, it's a very town post. And Jalmont just isn't capable of a well thought out trick. Hmm.

I'd still like input on what others feel about Spiffy and Jalmont.

 

[Spiffy]

Yeah you're right input about Spiffy has been really barren as of late.

 

[Spiffy]

You ignore things that aren't convenient for you, and that's scummy.

Also please show me where I've done this.

 

[Amianki]

I'm scumreading Jalmont. :|

 

[Fatecrashers]

Also please show me where I've done this.

both amianki and vonfiedler have given reasons for why jalmont is scummy and you act like they're lynching jalmont just for the information

 

[Spiffy]

Amianki what do you think of Serious Bananas, PokeguyNXB, and sunny004?
Fatecrashers who is your top townread and why?

 

[vonFiedler]

Yeah you're right input about Spiffy has been really barren as of late.

Do you want to tell me that half the game is not giving any input? Or do you want to tell me the above?

Then you say this;

and seems to be an excuse for everyone to focus their attention solely on said fight.

Even though I'M the one who wants people to talk about Cancerous and you keep trying to draw attention away from it.

You've been an open hypocrit in single posts. You've been manipulative and selective. And even though you believe this:

3.) evokes more pressured responses out of scum, making it more likely they'll slip

You follow up with this:

Which post are you referring to where I tell you what I want to hear? Have you learned nothing from my playstyle this entire game? Most of the reason I am such a huge target for lynching is because I haven't conformed to anyone else's expectations and stand practically alone regarding many issues. Five star mafia play right there, "let me see how much I can isolate and single myself out because that is obviously the most effective way to survive til the end of the game".

"Oh, I'm such a rogue, here's a really WIFOMY argument about why the mafia wouldn't act like this"

Amianki, what do you think about these Spiffy posts? You seem on the ball, and at this point I'd honestly really like a Spiffy lynch. I feel it could also give us information in regards to day 1, but really, while Jalmont could be Jalmont, I see no explanation for Spiffy's recent behavior other than that he's cracking under pressure.

 

[Fatecrashers]

Amianki what do you think of Serious Bananas, PokeguyNXB, and sunny004?
Fatecrashers who is your top townread and why?

right now i'd go with vonfiedler, the only time i remember where i've seriously disagreed with him is when he came to jalmont's defense on d1, otherwise i find his posts to be consistently quality

 

[JALMONT]

hey if we're lynching me based off a lie pls show me where i lied because

i didn't

so yeah

that would be unfortunate if you lynched based off x when it turns out x is untrue.

 

[sunny004]

Spiffy

Town:
sunny004 (duh)
rssp1 - Contributes n shit yaaay, posts a lot
vonFiedler - Same as rasp

Neutral:
Spiffy - Seems to do a lot of role fishing but that could mean a scum trying to look like a busy town member. Meh for now I guess.
Celever - Good job, you called me out on being a lazy mofo (woo!) but that seems to be the only thing he seems to do (Besides vote) Someone please correct me if I'm wrong with posts, I'm honestly too lazy to look through all of them.
Amianki - He seemed pretty town D1 but he seems to be making a lot of bad decisions/voting without sound reasoning.

Scum:
PokeguyNXB - LITERALLY has done nothing but bandwagon. Even I contribute more than him (Shocker!!!)
Serious Bananas - Same boat as Pokeguy

I'm not contributing too much because I ain't got s**t to contribute. If anyone has any ways to solve that, please be my guest and tell me.

 

[JALMONT]

i am retarded and incapable of doing anything intelligent so please take everything i say at face value and do not lynch me because i'm dumb :D

thx guys

 

[sunny004]

Jalmont seems pretty scummy too but idk

 

[sunny004]

Also Lynch PokeguyNXB I guess

 

[JALMONT]

i'm not mafia i m jsut not vrry good at thinking for too l0ng hurts my braain :D

 

[sunny004]

Yay triple post

Neutral on my list means neither scum nor town. Not that courier stuff

 

[sunny004]

Jalmont you ruined my triple post

 

[sunny004]

First world problems

(Hey its fixed triple post ftw)

 

[JALMONT]

sorry m9

I think spiffy;s #725 gives a good perspective that I agree with. at this point i feel a fate lynch > pokeguy lynch namely for the fact that i agree w/ what spiffy said on fate (i get the same sentiment but granted it's not like i've really looked into it). i don't know about pokeguy i feel like he's been pretty afk but in an actual afk way and not the more malicious way that i thought cancerous was. I'm not a big fan of that lynch for the reasons that i don't really think he's mafia and i don't think that reveals a lot about the rest of the playerlist

unvote vote pokeguynxb would prefer fate if more people are interested in that since i'm more interested in that but LOSERS can't be CHOOSERS

 

[Spiffy]

Do you want to tell me that half the game is not giving any input? Or do you want to tell me the above?

Do you disagree with either point?
Also, do you think it's fair to say that you have been tunneling me and Jalmont pretty much all day? If not, why?

Even though I'M the one who wants people to talk about Cancerous and you keep trying to draw attention away from it.

Talk about it then, no one is stopping you. And no I have not drawn attention away from that, I called you out on the way you are approaching it, which I thought and still think was scummy. Stop putting words in my mouth. I am TRYING to draw attention to things no one talks about so we can cover new ground but everyone ignores me and you keep going back to the same things that get us no where new. Please inform me of anything new we have discovered on this day that we didn't know previously on Day 1. Something NOT having to do with me.

You've been an open hypocrit in single posts. You've been manipulative and selective. And even though you believe this:

You follow up with this:

Don't see the contradiction in the two things you cited.

 

[Fatecrashers]

unvote

two pokeguy votes suddenly pop up after me like what the fuck
i refuse to do the 'let's lynch him by default' schtick again today

 

[Amianki]

Amianki - He seemed pretty town D1 but he seems to be making a lot of bad decisions/voting without sound reasoning.

Can you unpack this for me please? What are my bad decisions and how are my votes not sound?

Amianki what do you think of Serious Bananas, PokeguyNXB, and sunny004?

Sunny004's in the most suspicious spot of the Cancerous wagon; leaning scum.
Serious Bananas and PokeguyNXB are in the really short PoE list for the most likely one scum off the wagon. Direct reads? Not particularly. They're not in my focus area for right now.

 

[Spiffy]

Sunny004's in the most suspicious spot of the Cancerous wagon; leaning scum.
Serious Bananas and PokeguyNXB are in the really short PoE list for the most likely one scum off the wagon. Direct reads? Not particularly. They're not in my focus area for right now.

What is your plan of action in the event of a mislynch? Don't you think it would be beneficial to force them into contributing now so their inactivity doesn't bite us in the ass later? I'm having doubts that you would just simply be ok with ignoring them for 2 days if you were village, considering your experience in games like these.