Anybody wanna battle?
So Aqua is finally back up? I'm on for games.
Anybody wanna battle?
I actually don't think red orb will be that centralizing tbh. Its good, but I don't think a lot of people will love to use it when they want to be super fast or check -ate megas (although red orb does check pixilate).PSA - mono-attacking waters will suck because probably 80% of teams will have a Red Orb user somewhere. But if you have played ORAS ubers before, you probably already knew that.
Wait why does it add poison type? Also knock off is terrible in this omhere's a set that's fun and creative. Hope you guiz enjoy it :)
Conkeldurr @ Beedrillite
Ability: Guts ---> Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Drain Punch
- Poison Jab
- Knock Off
- Mach Punch
Conk gains a massive buff. It now has a base attack stat of 200 company by a nice base 115SSpe. And gains poison as its secondary type. Officially. Making him Stronger(if not a better) Toxicroak. Or you could run toxicroak instead. Faster and still has priority. this set is just straight up raw power
iirc. you receive The boost the megastone gives and the secondary typing. Or am I miss reading something? And yea I realized thatWait why does it add poison type? Also knock off is terrible in this om
You only change typing if the Mega Stone adds a typing. For example, Altaria goes from Dragon/Flying to Dragon/Fairy, so Altarianite adds Fairy typing as the secondary typing. Lucario on the other hand goes from Steel/Fighting to Steel/Fighting, so Lucarionite does not change the original typing of the Pokemon.iirc. you receive The boost the megastone gives and the secondary typing. Or am I miss reading something? And yea I realized that
Yes, which means that Showdown (which emulates the real games) does not register Steel/Steel as pure Steel because you had to make an exception to prevent the type combo from occuring, so Mega Aggron isn't adding a Steel typing.It means:
take your Pokemon holding Aggronite
ask yourself if one of its types is Steel
if not make type 2 Steel
otherwise set type 1 to Steel and type 2 to nothing
Fin.
I know we've kinda moved past this conversation, but its kinda important to note that, while possibly not as common at the moment, ubers are still totally viable, and often will outclass a lot of Megas. Lugia will still be a ridiculous wall, arceus is as good as ever, xerneas will still be a powerhouse, etc., so knock off still has a purpose.Wait why does it add poison type? Also knock off is terrible in this om
That doesn't count as a double post, this counts as a double post. That counts as a trash post (Admittedly, so does this one).Who decided to put this meta in a server that literally Have no users? at least pandora or some. there's No one on aqua....and sorry if this count as double post.
Sorry, nowhere in the op does it say ubers are allowed :? so i guess that's why i thought everything would have a stoneI know we've kinda moved past this conversation, but its kinda important to note that, while possibly not as common at the moment, ubers are still totally viable, and often will outclass a lot of Megas. Lugia will still be a ridiculous wall, arceus is as good as ever, xerneas will still be a powerhouse, etc., so knock off still has a purpose.
Everyone talks about how many threats there are in OU, and how matchup reliant that makes it. This meta will undoubtedly be worse in this regard due to the sheer number of potential threats, but perhaps it will be centralized enough around certain threats that it will be manageable.
However, as far as centralization goes, I think certain stuff is going to have to go. Lando-T is the first that comes to mind. After that I'd say blissey. I also feel that attempting to come up w/ complex bans like "x stone on y mon" is going to be unrealistic. Say a ban of sablenite blissey is enacted. Slowbronite blissey will just take its place. It's like the megagross argument- only worse. People were saying it could run HP fire to handle scizor. However, these are realistic options, unlike HP fire megagross. I definitely don't think any mega stones should be banned, aside from those already banned. In fact, I think if sablenite blissey is going to stay, khangaskanite deserves a suspect. However, this is probably just another case of broken checking broken.
I mentioned lando, but never came back to that, so I'll touch on it real quick. Basically, it is just too versatile. It can run some bulky set w/ sablenite, just like defensive lando in OU, only better, something like the double dance set with altarianite (honestly, swords dance probs isn't necessary), or just an AoA set, etc.. Honestly, it could fill any number of roles. Fortunately there is no physical stone w/ intimidate. It's weak to fridgespeed, but that doesn't change the fact that it's an absolute animal.
I started this post a long time ago, but got sidetracked so there might be holes in my train of thought.
Its adding a steel typing in the game because THE GAME REGISTERS STEEL/STEEL. Showdown doesn't because why should they bother in the code -- they are both the same thing. In the games, however, aggronite adds a steel typing to aggron over its rock typing, therefore it will do the same in this, regardless of the showdown code.Yes, which means that Showdown (which emulates the real games) does not register Steel/Steel as pure Steel because you had to make an exception to prevent the type combo from occuring, so Mega Aggron isn't adding a Steel typing.
Sorry, nowhere in the op does it say ubers are allowed :? so i guess that's why i thought everything would have a stone
OP said:— Ubers clauses and banlist
— Pokémon OU and below can use any Mega Stone/Orb to Mega Evolve/Primal Revert as presented in the basic premise of this meta. Ubers Pokémon are limited to their own Mega Stones/Orbs.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/aqua-mixandmega-876
Occasionally some of the megas have their stats revert to their normal forme's stats, in the case of my thundurus and his lucario reverting to diancie-m and pinsir-m's stats.
Diancite thundy-t wouldnt take only 33% from pinsirite lucario espeed, and if you look at the previous replay above it took 82% from the same attack in the previous battleHave you done any calcs? It might just be a visual glitch, or Snaquaza hasn't updated the code yet.
Hmm... oaky then. Sanquaza must have not updated the code, or it needs fixing.Diancite thundy-t wouldnt take only 33% from pinsirite lucario espeed, and if you look at the previous replay above it took 82% from the same attack in the previous battle
Anyone up for a battle? I'm on aqua all day.
if anyone wants to test teams/mons/sets i'm availible from 3-4:30 PM Eastern Time Zone during the week, Just PM me, but I won't be able to battle until thursday.