[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

[.com]

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Species = Wartortle, but Pokémon's Name = Whatever it's nicknamed? (Could be a censored word being used as the nickname.)

Otherwise I can't see anything wrong with it. May be that someone hacked illegal move reminder moves onto it or something.
(That or Eviolite/Wartortle are banned from rated battles, but that's not really something for a hack check thread.)

 

[Tetrinity]

Language: ENG
Species: Latios
OT: HIRO
ID No.: 07404
IVs: 29 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Ability: Levitate
Pokemon's name: Latios
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Master Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Draco Meteor / Psyshock / Surf / Defog (all moves maxed PP)
Nature: Timid
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Item: Life Orb

This was received via a Wonder Trade. It's an exact match of Smogon's standard OU Latios set, right down to the 29 HP IV (Life Orb recoil) and the order of the moves. Needless to say I'm rather suspicious, but I don't see anything to prove it one way or the other.

 

[craymond727]

stuff

Does it have the pentagon? If so, obvious hack.

Edit: Defog is a Gen IV-only move

 

[Tetrinity]

Does it have the pentagon? If so, obvious hack.

Edit: Defog is a Gen IV-only move

It does not have the pentagon. Also, to be specific, the game lists the region as "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region" (received this in my Y version). I don't really know much about this; does that mean it could have been brought forward from Gen IV? Still seems like it's most likely hacked though. Cheers for the advice.

 

[Dark Ray]

Language: ENG
Species: Latios
OT: HIRO
ID No.: 07404
IVs: 29 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Ability: Levitate
Pokemon's name: Latios
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Master Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Draco Meteor / Psyshock / Surf / Defog (all moves maxed PP)
Nature: Timid
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Item: Life Orb

This was received via a Wonder Trade. It's an exact match of Smogon's standard OU Latios set, right down to the 29 HP IV (Life Orb recoil) and the order of the moves. Needless to say I'm rather suspicious, but I don't see anything to prove it one way or the other.

Terrible hack, IV+Nature combo doesn't exist for that type of encounter. Can people stop asking about their flawless shinies from GTS/WT?

 

[Jk Howling]

OT: Tim
TID: 01213

Known and confirmed hacker who is pretty much everywhere. Don't know if he has an account. The hacks are often distributed on Wondertrade. A lot of people on Smogon and Showdown distribute his hacks without being aware. You can literally google "Tim 01213 pokemon" and find quite a few of them. The first link should suffice well enough, as no Keldeo are able to have trainer-specific OT/TIDs [source]. Not to mention the description literally says "It's a hacked Keldeo."

 

[Fluke]

I just got a bunch of epic Pokémon via Wonder Trade while WTW (Wonder Trade Wednesday (hosted by Nappy)) was going on. I'm trying to figure out if they're legit or not. Could lend me a hand?

Open

Language: SPA
Species: Ludicolo
OT: CincoDeMayo!
ID No.: 05515
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Own Tempo
Pokemon's name: Pancho Villa
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Friend Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Rain Dance / Giga Drain / Leech Seed / Ice Beam
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto an Aguav Berry

Language: ENG
Species: Salamence
OT: Ju
ID No.: 52823
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Intimidate
Pokemon's name: Aerialist
Gender: Male
Level: 69
Pokeball: Dream Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Dragon Dance / Double-Edge / Earthquake / Dragon Claw
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Has POKéRUS, was holding onto a Leftovers

Language: ENG
Species: Rampardos
OT: Ozzy
ID No.: 64439
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Sheer Force
Pokemon's name: Rampardos
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Luxury Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Head Smash / Iron Head / Crunch / Thunder Punch
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ribbons: Kalos Champion Ribbon, Contest Star Ribbon, Coolness Master Ribbon, Beauty Master Ribbon, Cuteness Master Ribbon, Cleverness Master Ribbon, Toughness Master Ribbon, Best Friends Ribbon, Training Ribbon, Effort Ribbon, Shock Ribbon, Downcast Ribbon, Gorgeous Ribbon, Royal Ribbon, Gorgeous Royal Ribbon, Footprint Ribbon
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto a Life Orb

Language: ENG
Species: Zekrom
OT: Superdood
ID No.: 00732
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Teravolt
Pokemon's name: Thor
Gender: Genderless
Level: 100
Pokeball: Luxury Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Outrage / Volt Switch / Draco Meteor / Bolt Strike
Nature: Naughty
Region of origin: Hoenn (Fabled Cave)
Characteristic: Somehwat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto a Life Orb

Language: ENG
Species: Vanillite
OT: Aerin
ID No.: 09490
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Ability: Weak Armor
Pokemon's name: Nilla
Gender: Female
Level: 1
Pokeball: Dream Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Ice Shard / Iron Defense / Autotomize / Imprison
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): -

Language: ENG
Species: Mienfoo
OT: Vodka
ID No.: 35776
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Ability: Weak Armor
Pokemon's name: Mienfoo
Gender: Female
Level: 1
Pokeball: Poké Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Pound / Knock Off
Nature: Jolly
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): -

Language: ENG
Species: Meganium
OT: Serena
ID No.: 14350
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Leaf Guard
Pokemon's name: Meganium
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Poké Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Solar Beam / Sunny Day / Synthesis / Body Slam
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Not sure, but it says: Where: Pokémon Link
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Note: Apparently a fateful encounter

Thanks in advance.

 

[flargananddingle]

I just got a bunch of epic Pokémon via Wonder Trade while WTW (Wonder Trade Wednesday (hosted by Nappy)) was going on. I'm trying to figure out if they're legit or not. Could lend me a hand?

Open

Language: SPA
Species: Ludicolo
OT: CincoDeMayo!
ID No.: 05515
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Own Tempo
Pokemon's name: Pancho Villa
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Friend Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Rain Dance / Giga Drain / Leech Seed / Ice Beam
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto an Aguav Berry

Language: ENG
Species: Salamence
OT: Ju
ID No.: 52823
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Intimidate
Pokemon's name: Aerialist
Gender: Male
Level: 69
Pokeball: Dream Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Dragon Dance / Double-Edge / Earthquake / Dragon Claw
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Has POKéRUS, was holding onto a Leftovers

Language: ENG
Species: Rampardos
OT: Ozzy
ID No.: 64439
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Sheer Force
Pokemon's name: Rampardos
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Luxury Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Head Smash / Iron Head / Crunch / Thunder Punch
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Hoenn
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ribbons: Kalos Champion Ribbon, Contest Star Ribbon, Coolness Master Ribbon, Beauty Master Ribbon, Cuteness Master Ribbon, Cleverness Master Ribbon, Toughness Master Ribbon, Best Friends Ribbon, Training Ribbon, Effort Ribbon, Shock Ribbon, Downcast Ribbon, Gorgeous Ribbon, Royal Ribbon, Gorgeous Royal Ribbon, Footprint Ribbon
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto a Life Orb

Language: ENG
Species: Zekrom
OT: Superdood
ID No.: 00732
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Teravolt
Pokemon's name: Thor
Gender: Genderless
Level: 100
Pokeball: Luxury Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Outrage / Volt Switch / Draco Meteor / Bolt Strike
Nature: Naughty
Region of origin: Hoenn (Fabled Cave)
Characteristic: Somehwat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Was holding onto a Life Orb

Language: ENG
Species: Vanillite
OT: Aerin
ID No.: 09490
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Ability: Weak Armor
Pokemon's name: Nilla
Gender: Female
Level: 1
Pokeball: Dream Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Ice Shard / Iron Defense / Autotomize / Imprison
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): -

Language: ENG
Species: Mienfoo
OT: Vodka
ID No.: 35776
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Ability: Weak Armor
Pokemon's name: Mienfoo
Gender: Female
Level: 1
Pokeball: Poké Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Pound / Knock Off
Nature: Jolly
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): -

Language: ENG
Species: Meganium
OT: Serena
ID No.: 14350
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Leaf Guard
Pokemon's name: Meganium
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Poké Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Solar Beam / Sunny Day / Synthesis / Body Slam
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Not sure, but it says: Where: Pokémon Link
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Note: Apparently a fateful encounter

Thanks in advance.

The ludicolo is a hack. No apricorn balls for lotad.

The zekrom is one of those 'too good to be true' can't prove it's a hack but no one would ever think otherwise because it's a shiny flawless zekrom.

And the Meganium is a hack. The event couldn't be shiny, and had no guaranteed ivs.

As for the rest, I can't say anything because they seem to be ok but considering everything else you got...that means very little

 

[Fluke]

The ludicolo is a hack. No apricorn balls for lotad.

The zekrom is one of those 'too good to be true' can't prove it's a hack but no one would ever think otherwise because it's a shiny flawless zekrom.

And the Meganium is a hack. The event couldn't be shiny, and had no guaranteed ivs.

As for the rest, I can't say anything because they seem to be ok but considering everything else you got...that means very little

Thanks for the help. I just saw I got another shiny, because it really looked like a regular one.

Show

Language: ENG
Species: Tornadus
OT: Axel
ID No.: 05515
IVs: 31/x/x/31/x/31
Ability: Prankster
Pokemon's name: Tornadus
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Quick Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Extrasensory / Agility / Air Slash / Crunch
Nature: Brave
Region of origin: Hoenn (Soaring in the sky)
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):

 

[flargananddingle]

Thanks for the help. I just saw I got another shiny, because it really looked like a regular one.

Show

Language: ENG
Species: Tornadus
OT: Axel
ID No.: 05515
IVs: 31/x/x/31/x/31
Ability: Prankster
Pokemon's name: Tornadus
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Quick Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Extrasensory / Agility / Air Slash / Crunch
Nature: Brave
Region of origin: Hoenn (Soaring in the sky)
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):

That's possible and slightly more believable of a shiny legend in ORAS...crap nature and only the guaranteed 3 ivs...but the fact that it has the same ID no as the hacked ludicolo (even though it's a different OT) is kind of strange

 

[Fluke]

That's possible and slightly more believable of a shiny legend in ORAS...crap nature and only the guaranteed 3 ivs...but the fact that it has the same ID no as the hacked ludicolo (even though it's a different OT) is kind of strange

Oh shoot! I actually copy pasted all the lines of Ludicolo and forgot to change ID No. Axel's ID No. is actually 05729.

 

[Ksh13]

Oh shoot! I actually copy pasted all the lines of Ludicolo and forgot to change ID No. Axel's ID No. is actually 05729.

Then I think the Landorus actually is legit.

Edit: Can Latios be shiny and gave the pentagon? Guessing WT is dissapointing me with more hacks, just want to make sure. The IVs seem to be not that good, and random nature.

 

[rufus drumknott]

Edit: Can Latios be shiny and gave the pentagon? Guessing WT is dissapointing me with more hacks, just want to make sure. The IVs seem to be not that good, and random nature.

There's rarely any reason to believe that something from WT is legit, but there's no shiny lock on the Latis in Gen 6, meaning they can be shiny.

 

[HuoMao]

Got a used cart of Platinum and I transferred all the Pokemon up to my White cart. Six of them couldn't be transferred over to AS. I checked with MetalKid's IV checker and three of them had impossible speed IVs. These are the other three:

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Language: ENG
Species: Groudon
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 15/18/8/27/11/3
Ability: Drought
Pokemon's name: GROUDON
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Fissure/Solar Beam/Earth Power/Eruption
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin:Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Thoroughly Cunning
Ribbons: League Ribbon01
Other comments (optional):

Language: ENG
Species: Celebi
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 23/24/6/20/10/20
Ability: Natural Cure
Pokemon's name: CELEBI
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Future Sight/Healing Wish/Leaf Storm/Perish Song
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Quick Tempered
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):

Language: ENG
Species: Manaphy
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 9/4,5/19/0/21/24
Ability: Hydration
Pokemon's name: MANAPHY
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Quick Ball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Aqua Ring/Dive/Rain Dance/Heart Swap
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Quick to Flee
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):

 

[TheGamedawg]

Language: ENG
Species: Talonflame
OT: Ren
ID No.: 55802
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): Unsure, stats are 154/146/91/84/89/178
Ability: Gale Wings
Pokemon's name: Koujaku
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Luxury
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Brave Bird/Flare Blitz/U-turn/Will-O-Wisp
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: none
Other comments (optional): Got it though Wonder Trade and would like to put it in my trade thread, however perfect Pokemon over the WT usually raise a few red flags. I would like to see if it's a hack before I go trading it. And if it is a hack, don't just bluntly say so. And I would like an actual reason, not just "it looks fishy."

 

[Reisuke]

Got a used cart of Platinum and I transferred all the Pokemon up to my White cart. Six of them couldn't be transferred over to AS. I checked with MetalKid's IV checker and three of them had impossible speed IVs. These are the other three:

Show

Language: ENG
Species: Groudon
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 15/18/8/27/11/3
Ability: Drought
Pokemon's name: GROUDON
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Fissure/Solar Beam/Earth Power/Eruption
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin:Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Thoroughly Cunning
Ribbons: League Ribbon01
Other comments (optional):
Since it's from the exact same ID and OT it's safe to assume it's hacked

Language: ENG
Species: Celebi
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 23/24/6/20/10/20
Ability: Natural Cure
Pokemon's name: CELEBI
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Future Sight/Healing Wish/Leaf Storm/Perish Song
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Quick Tempered
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):
Hack (celebi is an event only pokemon and thus cannot have this OT)

Language: ENG
Species: Manaphy
OT: AJ
ID No.: 48891
IVs: 9/4,5/19/0/21/24
Ability: Hydration
Pokemon's name: MANAPHY
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Quick Ball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Aqua Ring/Dive/Rain Dance/Heart Swap
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Sinnoh (Arrived at Lv. 100)
Characteristic: Quick to Flee
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):
Hack (manaphy can't be in a quickball as far as I know)

Comments bolded

 

[SanjivG]

Other comments (optional): Got it though Wonder Trade and would like to put it in my trade thread, however perfect Pokemon over the WT usually raise a few red flags. I would like to see if it's a hack before I go trading it. And if it is a hack, don't just bluntly say so. And I would like an actual reason, not just "it looks fishy."

Besides the fact that flawless, shiny Pokemon from WT are more likely than not hacks (as pointed out numerous times in the thread), read the last post made by .com in this link:

www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-traders-club-under-construction.3523557/#post-5907346

It's up to you to provide proof that this is legit; you can't because it is from Wonder Trade.

I'd directly link the post but I'm on my phone.

 

[Ksh13]

Language: ENG
Species: Talonflame
OT: Ren
ID No.: 55802
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): Unsure, stats are 154/146/91/84/89/178
Ability: Gale Wings
Pokemon's name: Koujaku
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Luxury
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Brave Bird/Flare Blitz/U-turn/Will-O-Wisp
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: none
Other comments (optional): Got it though Wonder Trade and would like to put it in my trade thread, however perfect Pokemon over the WT usually raise a few red flags. I would like to see if it's a hack before I go trading it. And if it is a hack, don't just bluntly say so. And I would like an actual reason, not just "it looks fishy."

It is difficult to say for sure wether it is a hack or not. A quick google search of the OT gave me this German site. There it is a shiny pentgon Bagon with the same OT and TID. Would be nice if someone who knows german could translate it, since I don't understand any of it. If that Bagon is hacked, this one is a hack. If the Bagon seems fine, then this Talonflame could be fine. But if you trade it and someone manages to get solid evidence that this is a hack, you will be in trouble. Finding proof that this Talonflame is legit is almost impossible, but that German link is the only way I could see that could be of any help. If the person listing the Pokemon there knows the person that bred the Bagon, you have a hope. Otherwise, you won't really get anywhere with that.

Edit: I think it says there that the Bisharp is a hack, so proving the Bagon is legit is honestly almost impossible. If you really want that Talonflame in your thread, you will need evidence. This link is the only thing that could give you something, so good luck proving it to be legit.

Edit 2: A policy where you only can trade stuff obtained from people on the site sounds smart. Is there any chance this could happen?

 

[flargananddingle]

Language: ENG
Species: Talonflame
OT: Ren
ID No.: 55802
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): Unsure, stats are 154/146/91/84/89/178
Ability: Gale Wings
Pokemon's name: Koujaku
Gender: Male
Level: 50
Pokeball: Luxury
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: Yes
Moves: Brave Bird/Flare Blitz/U-turn/Will-O-Wisp
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: none
Other comments (optional): Got it though Wonder Trade and would like to put it in my trade thread, however perfect Pokemon over the WT usually raise a few red flags. I would like to see if it's a hack before I go trading it. And if it is a hack, don't just bluntly say so. And I would like an actual reason, not just "it looks fishy."

It looks ok. The only match I could find was here; Ot: ren ID: 55802. This isn't by any means conclusive that it's not edited though, as the bagon in the example could have been as well. Without being able to verify a hatcher or anything like that, you won't be able to 100% verify whether it is or isn't edited. It's generally not a great idea to trade things obtained from wondertrade for exactly that reason...you genuinely have no idea whether you're trading hacks or not.

It's your decision either way, but generally you should only trade things you can verify.

It is difficult to say for sure wether it is a hack or not. A quick google search of the OT gave me this German site. There it is a shiny pentgon Bagon with the same OT and TID. Would be nice if someone who knows german could translate it, since I don't understand any of it. If that Bagon is hacked, this one is a hack. If the Bagon seems fine, then this Talonflame could be fine. But if you trade it and someone manages to get solid evidence that this is a hack, you will be in trouble. Finding proof that this Talonflame is legit is almost impossible, but that German link is the only way I could see that could be of any help. If the person listing the Pokemon there knows the person that bred the Bagon, you have a hope. Otherwise, you won't really get anywhere with that.

you ninja'd me while i was typing -_- the only conlclusion reached on the website was that the bagon looked legit, but couldn't be traded there because it didn't originate from a user there (we should try this...)

Edit: btw the bagon on that site was also obtained through WT

 

[TheGamedawg]

Besides the fact that flawless, shiny Pokemon from WT are more likely than not hacks (as pointed out numerous times in the thread), read the last post made by .com in this link:

www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-traders-club-under-construction.3523557/#post-5907346

It's up to you to provide proof that this is legit; you can't because it is from Wonder Trade.

I'd directly link the post but I'm on my phone.

It is difficult to say for sure wether it is a hack or not. A quick google search of the OT gave me this German site. There it is a shiny pentgon Bagon with the same OT and TID. Would be nice if someone who knows german could translate it, since I don't understand any of it. If that Bagon is hacked, this one is a hack. If the Bagon seems fine, then this Talonflame could be fine. But if you trade it and someone manages to get solid evidence that this is a hack, you will be in trouble. Finding proof that this Talonflame is legit is almost impossible, but that German link is the only way I could see that could be of any help. If the person listing the Pokemon there knows the person that bred the Bagon, you have a hope. Otherwise, you won't really get anywhere with that.

Edit: I think it says there that the Bisharp is a hack, so proving the Bagon is legit is honestly almost impossible. If you really want that Talonflame in your thread, you will need evidence. This link is the only thing that could give you something, so good luck proving it to be legit.

Edit 2: A policy where you only can trade stuff obtained from people on the site sounds smart. Is there any chance this could happen?

You could probably breed your own Talonflame within 20 mins, I can provide a spitback if you'd like since I have several spare.

It looks ok. The only match I could find was here; Ot: ren ID: 55802. This isn't by any means conclusive that it's not edited though, as the bagon in the example could have been as well. Without being able to verify a hatcher or anything like that, you won't be able to 100% verify whether it is or isn't edited. It's generally not a great idea to trade things obtained from wondertrade for exactly that reason...you genuinely have no idea whether you're trading hacks or not.

It's your decision either way, but generally you should only trade things you can verify.

you ninja'd me while i was typing -_- the only conlclusion reached on the website was that the bagon looked legit, but couldn't be traded there because it didn't originate from a user there (we should try this...)

Edit: btw the bagon on that site was also obtained through WT

Thank you all for your help. It seems pretty 50/50 if this is a hack or not, so I think I'll play it safe and not trade it.

 

[Esmeya]

It is difficult to say for sure wether it is a hack or not. A quick google search of the OT gave me this German site. There it is a shiny pentgon Bagon with the same OT and TID. Would be nice if someone who knows german could translate it, since I don't understand any of it. If that Bagon is hacked, this one is a hack. If the Bagon seems fine, then this Talonflame could be fine. But if you trade it and someone manages to get solid evidence that this is a hack, you will be in trouble. Finding proof that this Talonflame is legit is almost impossible, but that German link is the only way I could see that could be of any help. If the person listing the Pokemon there knows the person that bred the Bagon, you have a hope. Otherwise, you won't really get anywhere with that.

Edit: I think it says there that the Bisharp is a hack, so proving the Bagon is legit is honestly almost impossible. If you really want that Talonflame in your thread, you will need evidence. This link is the only thing that could give you something, so good luck proving it to be legit.

Edit 2: A policy where you only can trade stuff obtained from people on the site sounds smart. Is there any chance this could happen?

It looks ok. The only match I could find was here; Ot: ren ID: 55802. This isn't by any means conclusive that it's not edited though, as the bagon in the example could have been as well. Without being able to verify a hatcher or anything like that, you won't be able to 100% verify whether it is or isn't edited. It's generally not a great idea to trade things obtained from wondertrade for exactly that reason...you genuinely have no idea whether you're trading hacks or not.

It's your decision either way, but generally you should only trade things you can verify.

you ninja'd me while i was typing -_- the only conlclusion reached on the website was that the bagon looked legit, but couldn't be traded there because it didn't originate from a user there (we should try this...)

Edit: btw the bagon on that site was also obtained through WT

Hello there, bisaboard is very strict about hacks and clones (sort of like Smogon + reddit rolled into one with an exception of being German). The OT and Pokemon in question were not allowed to trade there because they were suspicious and didn't originate from an OT on the forums there. The Bisharp they got checked was hacked (due to the Moon Ball obviously) DV is the equivalent of IV's in German and all they said was that it was legal for the Bagon, it has the "correct" memories and it's legal - so much like bisaboard, the Pokemon in question here is legal - but you don't know the origin and the origin is suspicious so it shouldn't be traded. Yeah it's a late reply and I'm sorry I missed it, but someone asked for a translation.

In regards to things being traded here that don't originate from here, we already basically do that to begin with we just don't outright say it. That's why we ask people to make sure of the origin and assume WT/GTS is filled with hacks, but people ask anyway - lol and no that policy sounds terrible because it gates new, potentially legitimate people from other places. It's a whole lot easier to just slap people in the head for trying to trade hacks than it is to shut out the entire... internet. I'm good at slapping people in the head, also throwing.

 

[Dark Ray]

IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Shiny?: Yes
Other comments (optional): Got it though Wonder Trade

Hacked, it looks fishy.

On a more serious note, the german link Ksh and flarg posted says the Bagon is from "Entfernter Ort", which google translate tells me is the German version of "Faraway Place". Last I checked that means Bagon was hatched in Hoenn while this Talonflame was hatched in Kalos.

 

[Wrennekin]

Hey there! I just received this Pokemon in a trade and while it looks legit (they told me that they caught it themselves in one of their older games) I'm naturally a bit suspicious so I'd appreciate some feedback on whether it looks hacked or not. uvu Thank you in advance!

Language: ENG
Species: Mew
OT: Brianna
ID No.: 21772
IVs: max IV in Defense only
Ability: Synchronize
Pokemon's name: N/A
Gender: N/A
Level: 100
Pokeball: Master Ball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: Psychic, Transform, Mega Punch, Metronome
Nature: Docile
Region of origin: "A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach you from the Hoenn region."
Characteristic: Good Perseverance
Ribbons: Champion, Effort, Artist, Contest Memory

 

[scudzilla]

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According to Bulbapedia, the only NA release of Mew in Gen III have their OT fixed (Aura or MYSTRY)
NA didn't have the Old Sea Chart event item released, so Emerald players cannot capture their own Mew. (Japan had theirs released)

 

[Wrennekin]

According to Bulbapedia, the only NA release of Mew in Gen III have their OT fixed (Aura or MYSTRY)
NA didn't have the Old Sea Chart event item released, so Emerald players cannot capture their own Mew. (Japan had theirs released)

Darn, I'd suspected as much. I guess they must have hacked in the Old Sea Chart. Thank you for answering!