It's 0000-4095.
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Interesting.
I didn't know that a TSV of 0 was possible. Well... you live and learn.
EDIT: That is some fun information. *_*
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The TSV is calculated from the save file's TID and SID.
(, where ^ = XOR, >> = right shift). Since TID and SID are 16bits (0x0000 – 0xFFFF in hex; 0–65535 in decimal), their XOR is 16 bits; so after right shifting by 4, you have only the 12 highest bits (0x000 – 0xFFF in hex; 0 – 4095 in decimal).
TSV = (TID ^ SID) >> 4
(, where ^ = XOR, >> = right shift). Since TID and SID are 16bits (0x0000 – 0xFFFF in hex; 0–65535 in decimal), their XOR is 16 bits; so after right shifting by 4, you have only the 12 highest bits (0x000 – 0xFFF in hex; 0 – 4095 in decimal).
The ESV (or PSV if hatched) is calculated similarly. The PID is 32 bits (0x0000_0000 – 0xFFFF_FFFF in hex), split as indicated into PIDH (high 16 bits) and PIDL (low 16 bits) then
The math works because only the high 12 bits of (TID^SID) and (PIDH^PIDL) need to match for the Pokémon to be shiny; it was 13 bits before Gen VI.
ESV = (PIDH ^ PIDL) >> 4,
or equivalentlyESV = ( (PID&0xFFFF)^(PID>>0x10) ) >> 4.
The math works because only the high 12 bits of (TID^SID) and (PIDH^PIDL) need to match for the Pokémon to be shiny; it was 13 bits before Gen VI.
Thanks for the update.
My lowest ESV is 0034 and the highest is 3946. I did just see 4041 on reddit today. I was trying to figure a way to find more people with TSV that match eggs I have, 0000-4095 narrows the search a little more. I don't have a way to save backup files to create more trainers to have more options.
Finding a match is a pain. I have 5 different TSV between my kids' games and mine
LF: Any Dialga for National Dex purposes. Not looking to keep. I WILL give right back. Anybody got one?
If you still need it, I can breed you one.
I'd strongly advise not to SR in Gen 4. Catch rate/apricorn balls/struggle aside, you are in for a very very painful road. Seriously, you are not getting anything out of that. Better RNG them (really easy with ~2-3 hours of learning curve), just a friendly suggestion
That'd be great! Let me look through my boxes for the spitback.
I know how it is to SR in generation 4. I've done it before. I'm going to it anyway. It gives me SO much satisfaction. I don't even care much about the trade value. Thanks for the suggestion, though :)
If hypothetically I wanted to RNG one of the Black/White Event Victini (I have both the wonder card one and the lighthouse one, neither have been caught/redeemed), and I'd never RNGd anything before let alone on that game, how would I go about doing it?
Mostly asking because it seems like well over half the decent Fire types in OU are legendary and I have exactly 0 of them. Gotta SR Raikou before I move on to Heatran :|
Edit: Looking for all the basic info, since when I say never I mean never ever. I am vaguely aware it has to do with gradually incrementing the seed used in the RNG, or something.
Mostly asking because it seems like well over half the decent Fire types in OU are legendary and I have exactly 0 of them. Gotta SR Raikou before I move on to Heatran :|
Edit: Looking for all the basic info, since when I say never I mean never ever. I am vaguely aware it has to do with gradually incrementing the seed used in the RNG, or something.
Smogon has a guide, I'd recommend reading through it (as well as the prerequisite pages) and then asking here if you get stuck somewhere.
Hmm. Based on a cursory reading (still early), it sounds like Gen V RNG abuse is much easier than RNG in 4th gen. MAN what were those developers up to?? Sounds okay so far, but I'd wonder if using a 3DS over an older DS would affect the time it takes or the initial seed when doing a hard reset?
edit: yeah a better question would be is this guide still valid when using a 3DS? I'm expecting either "completely" or "not at all" heheh
edit: yeah a better question would be is this guide still valid when using a 3DS? I'm expecting either "completely" or "not at all" heheh
Ask in the Gen V RNG help thread for any further questions.
But yes "completely". N.B. Some things may be more difficult when using a 3DS over older systems. It is still perfectly do-able, but you will be more at the mercy of Timer0 trolling and similar.
PM me/post on my profile and I'll send you one.
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4th generation is a lot easier imo. You don't have to deal with unpredictable frame jumps that happen seemingly for no reason. There is unpredictability involved in 5th generation.
As an example, I tried RNGing a Riolu not too long ago. I would always hit my seed and do the proper frame advancements. EVERY time I sweet scented, the frames would advance by 7, not by 1 like they should have. When I first noticed this, I thought "okay, I'll just sweet scent 7 frames earlier." Well, I did that, and the frames advanced by 1. .___. I could've sworn it was NPCs, but it turns out it was just a messed up seed and I still don't have an explanation as to why it happened. That's why I feel 4th gen is easier lol. You also have a much easier way to verify seeds in HG/SS. Not sure about DPPt.
Think 5th gen is waaay easier, especially if he is trying legends
Can we just say "ease" is relative to the person and leave it up to the user to decide which is easier, heh.
I am looking for a Custap Berry. Please CMT if you have one.
DPPt uses the coin flip Poketech app for verifying the seed, though only in areas where NPCs are absent (or if you're abusing for Egg PID)
Just got a 31/2/18/31/31/31, Modest, HP Ice Zapdos. SR'ing for VGC; is it worth keeping? Defense is definitely not ideal, but trying to get even decent IV's with HP Ice is such a pain. Need some convincing in either direction. Thanks!
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