What are good teammates for Rock Polish Rhydon?
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A Healing Wish user is amazing when paired with a Rock Polish Rhydon, letting you take advantage of its offensive presence in the early/mid game and then top it off late game to clean. Mesprit and Scarf Lilligant are the most consistent options for that role, and they both have good type synergy with Rhydon.
Grass types in general work well with Rhydon, since they soak up the Water and Grass attacks Rhydon is 4X weak to while it covers for their Fire and Flying weaknesses. Grass type attackers also deal with Pokemon like Quagsire and Claydol that shut down a double dance Rhydon's sweep.
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Also Dis I don't blame u for putting 4 random Atk EVs on Vanilluxe cos it's only fitting that a mediocre mon warrants a mediocre set :P.
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This isn't true, as Aurorus has access to Rock Polish which means it can also zip past the tier and smack stuff with superior attacks (Refrigerate Hyper Voice for power, Refrigerate Nature Power to avoid Sucker Punch users) and coverage (Earth Power); also Aurorus resists Fake Out and Gale Wings Acrobatics while Vanilluxe gets shredded due to Weak Armor :/. All Vanilluxe really has going for it is that it has the strongest Freeze-Dry in the tier, Weak Armor which can sometimes work for it (though with that typing it's difficult to pull off, or, in the case of the Autotomize set, can even hinder it as it get eaten up by priority), and a half usable Attack stat that contains moves such as Ice Shard and Explosion. Otherwise, Vanilluxe is about on par at best with other lesser used Ice-types such as Lapras and Regice.
Also Dis I don't blame u for putting 4 random Atk EVs on Vanilluxe cos it's only fitting that a mediocre mon warrants a mediocre set :P.
I'm aware Aurorus can use Rock Polish, I'm the biggest proponent of Aurorus in the tier. However, I genuinely believe Vanilluxe is more suited to the set up sweeper role than Aurorus. To start, Aurorus is much slower than Vanilluxe, meaning Vanilluxe will find a number of set up opportunities by forcing out the majority of the base 60-70 speed tier (Ludicolo, Samurott, Barbaracle, weakened Flareons, and an honorable mention to any offensive Poliwraths who choose not to invest in bulk). Scarf Rotom, Scarf Lilligant, and Scarf Jynx also outspeed +2 Aurorus, but not +2 Vanilluxe. Similarly, Vanilluxe dismantles weather teams at +2, being threatened only by Kabu and Stoutland. Aurorus also does not have the defensive typing to maintain a sweep because of its extra x4 weaknesses to Steel- and Fighting-types and an extra weakness to Water-types basically boiling down a much more serious issue with priority than Weak Armor Vanilluxe has. Gurdurr, Poliwrath, and Hariyama (I'm aware Vanilluxe is also hard walled by this, but it will at least be in a better position vs a weakened Hariyama than Aurorus) can basically kill Aurorus at any point in the game, whereas Vanilluxe can typically take a hit from close to full, which means it'll do more damage before it's forced out/killed. The Water-type weakness means Aurorus is also pressured by Kabutops/Samurott a great deal more than Vanilluxe. You can make the case for Fake Out and Acro, but Vanilluxe is not forced into running Weak Armor. One of the paddling teams has Ice Body Vanilluxe because it "comes with no drawbacks." I'd say the only real niche Aurorus has over Vanilluxe as a set up sweeper is Earth Power so it doesn't have to weaken AV Mag and Klinklang as much as Vanilluxe, but I'd say it's a small niche.
I consistently put the 4 EVs remaining into stats that don't matter because that 1 point doesn't make any difference whatsoever. However, it just so happened I imported this set from an Ice Shard Vanilluxe I was trying out because my team was a bit weak to Fast Flying-types, in case you were wondering about the true origin of the mysterious, worthless 4 Attack EVs.
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is it a mega audino?
uhm... it holds Regenerator I believe, but not after the mega evolution
That I know. When I selected regenerator in the teambuilder, it is healer when I start the battle. I hover over the pokemon to be sure and sure enough there is healer.
Maybe it is bug or something.
Why do people run Rock Climb on Tauros over Body Slam? Sure it has 5 more BP but it also has 15% less accuracy. Are there any important KOs Rock Climb gets that Body Slam doesn't?
Body Slam is incompatible with Sheer Force.
sheer force tauros isn't compatible with body slam, otherwise i'm sure everyone would run it lol
edit: ninjad, again
Audino @ Audinite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wish
- Protect
- Hyper Voice
- Dazzling Gleam
So I've been using this set a little bit on the ladder for MAudino and I've had a fair amount of success with it. I mostly needed a fairy pivot that could heal teammates. What do you guys think? Is this set actually decent or is it unviable?
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wish
- Protect
- Hyper Voice
- Dazzling Gleam
So I've been using this set a little bit on the ladder for MAudino and I've had a fair amount of success with it. I mostly needed a fairy pivot that could heal teammates. What do you guys think? Is this set actually decent or is it unviable?
Offensive WishTect Audino is a cool pivot, I used to use it a fair bit. Typically I don't run max special attack but run some bulk for stuff like Kangaskhan for example, but that works. The only thing is that Hyper Voice+Dazzling Gleam coverage is kinda redundant, and I would recommend running Fire Blast>Hyper Voice, though Hyper Voice is nice for Fire-types I guess
I wouldn't use hyper voice since it doesn't hit much you don't already hit with dazzling gleamed, and doesn't help with steels. This set can become a cool lure set with Fire Blast instead to beat Klinklang on the switch or Ferroseed and Mawile!
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No im an competitive nu player and know my stuff ;3 thanks though,Just knew to smogon
There's been a website redesign since I played back in BW. I really miss the pokedex being sortable by base stats. Was that functionality removed?
Yes, as far as I know that feature has been removed from smogon.
If you're looking for a dex that still allows you to sort Pokemon by their base stats, I believe both Serebii and Veekun will allow you to do so. While you still can't search within specific tiers, Veekun will still let you narrow your search based on certain values (type, known moves, ability, evolution stage, etc.) so i'd reccomend their website if you really miss that feature http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search
A better Speed tier really helps as well as its access to Knock Off. Cacturne does have its niche in Spikes, Destiny Bond, and a Water immunity, but Shiftry can go mixed better thanks to it having a better Grass STAB in Leaf Storm while being able to still Sucker Punch like Cacturne as well as Knock Off items.