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Heracross @ Scarf
252 spd 252 atk
adamant

Megahorn
Close Combat
Rock Slide
Earthquake

Can switch in on all of those and OHKO or 2hko or whatever with close combat.


edit: that was for snorlax
 
AgostonF said:
Heracross @ Scarf
252 spd 252 atk
adamant

Megahorn
Close Combat
Rock Slide
Earthquake
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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish@ 252/60/196/0/0/0
Drill Peck
Stealth Rock
Whirlwind
Roost

Since your not CBed, I can come in and wall you. Even CC does a paltry 40% without a crit. OHKO's with Drill Peck.
 
@Zero7:
That is not a counter. Infernape absolutely despises being Drill Pecked on the switch.

@Dark Android's Skarmory:
Cradily@Leftovers
Adamant 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
~Swords Dance
~Rock Slide
~Earthquake
~Recover
Can't be Whirlwinded, so it's free to Swords Dance up, Recovering off Drill Peck's meager damage. Eventually, after +6, Rock Slide 2HKOes Skarmory, and Earthquake OHKOes if it tries to Roost.
 
Lanturn@Leftovers
Modest-252 Sdef/148 Hp/108 Satk
-Ice Beam
-HP:Ground
-Rest
-Toxic

Can switch in on anything[ even grass knot] and KO with HP:ground.
 
@ Sage's Craidily
Machamp, 252spd/252atk, adamant nature @ choice scarf (No Guard)
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch
Earthquake

Switches in on anything that craid can do, un danced earthquake does very little and rock slide is resisted. Dynamicpunch should OHKO, it outspeeds craid so it will 2HKO reguardless of recover if that happens.
 
The Blue Hedgehog said:
Steelix @ Leftovers
252 Def 252 HP 4 Atk
Toxic
Stealth rock
Earthquake
Roar

Resists Sucker Punch, doesn't care about Will-O-Wisp, Toxic stall to finish it.
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WRONG! You get Taunted or Will-O-Wisp on the switch. Next I will either Taunt or Will-O-Wisp you depending on what I already did, therefore you will be hitting with your attack cut back, and unable to Toxic me due to Taunt. So NO, not a counter.

AgostonF said:
Heracross @ Scarf
252 spd 252 atk
adamant

Megahorn
Close Combat
Rock Slide
Earthquake

Can switch in on all of those and OHKO or 2hko or whatever with close combat.


edit: that was for snorlax
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That is a horrible counter. For both Snorlax and Machamp. Machamp will first of all surely 2hko pretty much despite what moves it'll use, which you can't OHKO it, therefore you die next turn. Even with Snorlax, with the 'standard' spread of Max HP and like 190/200 Defense, you will fail to OHKO even half the time with Close Combat, and tihs is without it Cursing. Should it BS you on the switch or even Curse, this would fail horribly.

Zero7 said:
Machamp @ Choice Scarf
Evs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Sp.Atk
Moves:
Dynamic Punch
Stone Edge
Fire Blast
Ice Punch

pwn'd
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This cannot switch into a Close Combat, as it will 2hko.

Dark Android said:
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish@ 252/60/196/0/0/0
Drill Peck
Stealth Rock
Whirlwind
Roost

Since your not CBed, I can come in and wall you. Even CC does a paltry 40% without a crit. OHKO's with Drill Peck.
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YOU CANNOT OHKO WITH DRILL PECK. You cannot also switch into Dynamicpunch, try walling it while you're at 50% confusion. Not to mentino you can't come in on Fire Blast either.

Zero7 said:
Infernape @ Expert Belt

Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot
HP Ice

quick question, does nasty plot affect grass knot?
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Drill Peck OHKO hi?

Great Sage said:
@Zero7:
That is not a counter. Infernape absolutely despises being Drill Pecked on the switch.

@Dark Android's Skarmory:
Cradily@Leftovers
Adamant 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
~Swords Dance
~Rock Slide
~Earthquake
~Recover
Can't be Whirlwinded, so it's free to Swords Dance up, Recovering off Drill Peck's meager damage. Eventually, after +6, Rock Slide 2HKOes Skarmory, and Earthquake OHKOes if it tries to Roost.
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Bad timing for you...

824545201 said:
Lanturn@Leftovers
Modest-252 Sdef/148 Hp/108 Satk
-Ice Beam
-HP:Ground
-Rest
-Toxic

Can switch in on anything[ even grass knot] and KO with HP:ground.
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WTH is tihs a counter to? Infernape? Do you realize thta Infernape will do roughly 92% min after a Nasty Plot on the switch with Grass Knot, right? Hardly a counter.




So people, pretty much learn what counters what and...press refresh a few time so you don't have bad timing!
 
So what's the procedure now?
spiritomb @ leftovers
taunt
will-o-wisp
sucker punch
pursuit
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Milotic @ Lefties
-Hypnosis
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover

Loves burn and can wait you out on the 3-5 turn taunt since your damage is physical.
 
Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant 252Atk/152SpAtk/100Spd
-Cross Chop
-Ice Punch
-Thunderbolt
-HP Grass

Two electric attacks?! :D
Either way, hits hard with the Crosso Choppo.
 
damn beaten oh well. um..

bronzong@leftovers
{relaxed}
heatproof
evs: 252 hp / 100 def / 156 sdef
-EQ
-hypnosis
-imprison
-grass knot

dunno, cross chop wont kill me, no1 will eq me imprison ftw.

EDIT: ran a calc. cross chop does 23-27% ._. c ya vire
 
pneuma, you are a retard...

anyway @ bronzong

gengar@ lum berry

substitute
focus punch
thunderbolt
ice punch

switches in on bronzong and substitutes... gg
 
@Magmortar

Blissey@Leftovers

Bold 252hp/252def/4sp.def

Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Aromatherapy

Magmortar's Brick Break is a 4HKO(without critical hits) at best. His flamethrower with choice specs is more or less the same as a threat. Psychic and Tbolt are jokes. So, yes Blissey can switch in against this pokemon and do just fine.

EDIT: Countered a pokemon out of the chain, I guess.
 
can people stop using blissey as a counter... its really getting repedative, seeing the big fat whore against all special attackers.

and ill go ahead and use the exact same gengar as the counter for blissey >.<


gengar@ lum berry

substitute
focus punch
thunderbolt
ice punch

switches in on BLISSEY and substitutes... gg
 
n00b_man {UU} said:
pneuma, you are a retard...

anyway @ bronzong

gengar@ lum berry

substitute
focus punch
thunderbolt
ice punch

switches in on bronzong and substitutes... gg
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Mismagius@Leftovers
Careful 252hp/252sp.def/4sp.att

Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Calm Mind

I can break your substitutes with Shadow Ball. You can't break my subs with Tbolt, although you can with ice punch. However Ice Punch is a 4HKO whereas Shadow Ball is a 2HKO on you.
 
n00b_man {UU} said:
can people stop using blissey as a counter... its really getting repedative, seeing the big fat whore against all special attackers.

and ill go ahead and use the exact same gengar as the counter for blissey >.<


gengar@ lum berry

substitute
focus punch
thunderbolt
ice punch

switches in on BLISSEY and substitutes... gg
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Mismagius@Leftovers

Calm 252hp/252sp.def/4sp.att

Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Substitute

happy?
 
yes kind of...

anyway @mismagius

Tyrantiar @ choice scarf
252 atk/ 252 spd/ 6 spc def
crunch
rock slide
focus punch
fire blast

switch in and crunch... yummy
 
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