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Pokemon:Machamp
Name:Revenge killer
move 1: Dynamic Punch
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Ice Punch/Brick Break
item:Choice Scarf
Nature:Adamant
Ability:No Gaurd
Ev’s: 4hp/252 Attack/ 252 Speed

A revenge set for machamp, I use this on my team and it’s been very successful. Dynamicpunch for STAB and an easy confusion. Stone edge and Earthquake for coverage and power. Ice punch for more coverage and to catch the infamous dragons. I’ve done good things with this set, I just call it a revenge killer because I normally send this out near the end of the fight to kill anything that has been giving me a problem.
 
Pokemon:Bronzong
Name: mindzong
Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 2: Iron Defense
Move 3: HP water/charge beam/grass knot/shadow ball/flash cannon/psychic
Move 4: any move of move 3 not chosen
Nature: Calm
Ability: Levitate
EV's: 252 HP/120 SP. ATK/72 DEF/66 SP. DEF

I'm not exactly sure of those EV's, i kinda made it up on the fly, i mean, it looks like it can work and if allowed to pull off the calm minds, it's gonna stay in there

it can have a bold or a modest nature, but calm is best since the most common fire attack used is flamethrower, adn that's special, so it's better to boost it's special defense than the others

i don't know what 2 special moves would provide the best type coverage, i think HP water is probably best cause it's strong against every fire type in the game, then probably between psychic and flash cannon for stab
 
Mood4food77 said:
Pokemon:Bronzong
Name: mindzong
Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 2: Iron Defense
Move 3: HP water/charge beam/grass knot/shadow ball/flash cannon/psychic
Move 4: any move of move 3 not chosen
Nature: Calm
Ability: Levitate
EV's: 252 HP/120 SP. ATK/72 DEF/66 SP. DEF

I'm not exactly sure of those EV's, i kinda made it up on the fly, i mean, it looks like it can work and if allowed to pull off the calm minds, it's gonna stay in there

it can have a bold or a modest nature, but calm is best since the most common fire attack used is flamethrower, adn that's special, so it's better to boost it's special defense than the others

i don't know what 2 special moves would provide the best type coverage, i think HP water is probably best cause it's strong against every fire type in the game, then probably between psychic and flash cannon for stab
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I would use HP Fighting/Shadow Ball, personally.
 
Try out CurseBreon.

Pokemon: Umbreon
Nature: Brave
Item: Leftovers
EVs; 252 ATK, 200 Sp. Def, 52 Def.
Attacks;
Curse
Payback
Moonlight
Quick Attack/Last Resort

The idea; bulk up with Curse, relying on Umbreon's nice defenses to keep it alive. Then use Payback. With Curse and Brave, Umbreon will naturally go last, so Payback's x2 effect plus STAB makes it a 150 BP attack! Moonlight to recover HP, last move for filler. I have such an Umbreon in Pearl, and it works pretty damn good for me.
 
Umbreon wants HP more than it wants defenses. Anyways...running a set with only one attack type generally doesn't work out very well, and the opponent can just phaze you. Not to mention Umbreon's attack isn't exactly threatening, I'd be more worried about an opponent setting up on you.

I wonder how a Baton Passing Medicham (passing Bulk ups, it has access to calm mind too though) would work out...opponent sends out Cresselia expecting a Brick Break, you Bulk Up and BP to Tyranitar, taking little to no damage from Ice Beam/Charge Beam. Well, that's a best case scenario, but it could work.

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Dragontamer said:
The problem with that Bronzong is 2 things:
1. Critical hits
2. Phazers, like Suicune, Skarm, etc. etc. etc, who will break him.
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but once that phazer is gone (how many teams have more than one), he is going to be the biggest pain in the ass to take down

i did HP water so that no one could just send out a random fire type to OHKO him, they'd be weary

if you think about it, how many other pokes that aren't fire use flamethrower (i can think of weezing, but other than that...who else)
 
I thought of a moveset for snorlax. Tell me if this is a bad idea...

Snorlax@chesto berry
Nature: Careful
Moves:
-Belly Drum
-Rest
-Crunch
-Fire Punch/Earthquake

The idea is to switch into an opponent's special wall, belly drum, rest on the next turn, wake up with the chesto berry, and then kill everything.
 
Demonz said:
I thought of a moveset for snorlax. Tell me if this is a bad idea...

Snorlax@chesto berry
Nature: Careful
Moves:
-Belly Drum
-Rest
-Crunch
-Fire Punch/Earthquake

The idea is to switch into an opponent's special wall, belly drum, rest on the next turn, wake up with the chesto berry, and then kill everything.
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I wouldn't. Some strong fighting type can come in on that at any time and hit it very hard, prob'ly for an OHKO. Pokemon generally need to be fast to pull off Belly Drum.
 
Machamp01 said:
Pokemon:Machamp
Name:Revenge killer
move 1: Dynamic Punch
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Ice Punch/Brick Break
item:Choice Scarf
Nature:Adamant
Ability:No Gaurd
Ev’s: 4hp/252 Attack/ 252 Speed

A revenge set for machamp, I use this on my team and it’s been very successful. Dynamicpunch for STAB and an easy confusion. Stone edge and Earthquake for coverage and power. Ice punch for more coverage and to catch the infamous dragons. I’ve done good things with this set, I just call it a revenge killer because I normally send this out near the end of the fight to kill anything that has been giving me a problem.
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I agree that this is great, but it already exists. It's in the analysis (though the EV's and move suggestions are slightly different and it is a Jolly nature instead of Adamant).
 
I thought I had come up with a brilliant set... Until I found a really old thread that talked about it... Well, sort of... Anyways,
Pokemon: Gallade
Name: Healing Sweeper
Move 1: Night Slash
Move 2: Bulk Up
Move 3: Drain Punch
Move 4: Wish
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Steadfast
Nature: Careful
EVs: 236 HP/ 54 Defense/ 216 Special Defense/ 4 Speed

So basically this guy comes in on blissey or some such pokemon, and bulks up/ wishes. If he can't get off a sweep, he can still wishpass, and wish is important for getting in those vital bulk ups.
After setting up, he sweeps whilst ignoring being outsped due to the recovery that ensues shortly thereafter. Night slash for type coverage.
Evs for lefties recovery and staying power. Speed for outspeeding neutral base 80s, which might be... Meh.
Gallade, IMO, is the best pokemon for the job. There are no other pokemon who get STAB drain punch/giga drain in addition to boosting their worse defense (And having a good other defense). In addition, this isn't very standard, so...
 
Floatzel @ Life Orb
Naughty 252 Atk/4 SpAtk/252 HP
-HP Electric
-Ice Beam
-Waterfall
-Substitute/Toxic/Bulk up

Would be intresting and seems to be the most viable.Though getting him in is hard.Toxic will take care of Swampert and Cresselia somewhat.Bulk Up would be for things like Weezing and Bronzong.Substitute would help against Dusknoir's Will-O-Wisps.HP Electric stops Gyarados from walling you, and as someone else said stops Empoleon also.Also has Bolt-Beam for those Physical walls.I personally would probaly go with Toxic in the last slot.

Credit to Lady Lyndys for giving me the idea.Though she basicly only said use whatever you want with Rain Dance:P.
 
well at work today i was thinking of a counter to the sand steamers with sceptile being on a stall-rein team

sceptile @ big root ( or leftovers i was thinking about item clause)
hardy nature
252 atk/Satk/ 6 hp
substitute
leech seed
focus punch
giga drain

OHKO t-tar with focus punch (and clings to life with 252 hp/def) and 2HKO hippodon with giga drain (max hp/min sdef) and suppots walrein with leechseed hp gain.

it was just a random thought i had during the day :)
 
Mood4food77 said:
but once that phazer is gone (how many teams have more than one), he is going to be the biggest pain in the ass to take down

i did HP water so that no one could just send out a random fire type to OHKO him, they'd be weary

if you think about it, how many other pokes that aren't fire use flamethrower (i can think of weezing, but other than that...who else)
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You mean except for garchomp, salamence, snorlax, medicham, electivire, Dragonite, Flygon, machamp, and ever other physical sweeper with fire access (and their moms) who are ALL wishing they could blast away Skarmory and Bronzong. Sure they might not all have FLAMETHROWER perse (though salamence does, and often carries it), but Fire Blast and Fire Punch? Freaking everywhere.

Traditionally, fire is a type that's been rare as a type in OU because of really bad weaknesses to have (and this problem has been compounded because of the addition of SR), but fire as an attacking type has always been recognized as a great offensive type with solid coverage (and now especially in combination with the now widely used dragon attacks and the more widely spread grass attacks), and so has always enjoyed a lot of use on non-fire pokes who could get access.

HP fire too! :D
 
Topofira said:
I thought I had come up with a brilliant set... Until I found a really old thread that talked about it... Well, sort of... Anyways,
Pokemon: Gallade
Name: Healing Sweeper
Move 1: Night Slash
Move 2: Bulk Up
Move 3: Drain Punch
Move 4: Wish
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Steadfast
Nature: Careful
EVs: 236 HP/ 54 Defense/ 216 Special Defense/ 4 Speed

So basically this guy comes in on blissey or some such pokemon, and bulks up/ wishes. If he can't get off a sweep, he can still wishpass, and wish is important for getting in those vital bulk ups.
After setting up, he sweeps whilst ignoring being outsped due to the recovery that ensues shortly thereafter. Night slash for type coverage.
Evs for lefties recovery and staying power. Speed for outspeeding neutral base 80s, which might be... Meh.
Gallade, IMO, is the best pokemon for the job. There are no other pokemon who get STAB drain punch/giga drain in addition to boosting their worse defense (And having a good other defense). In addition, this isn't very standard, so...
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Hmm...I'm not totally sure how that would end up working out. Gallade is kinda slow and with Drain Punch as his strongest move, he won't be dealing much damage without several Bulk Ups. He's also completely vulnerable to phazing. I'd forgotton Gallade could learn Wish, though.
 
How do you guys think this would work out? I'm planning on using it in the Battle Tower.

Drifblim @ Accur. Lens
Nature: Modest or Timid
Ability: Aftermath

Shadow Ball
Dream Eater
Hypnosis
Calm Mind

4HP 252Sp.Atk 252Speed

A short explanation. I plan to first Hypnosis, then Calm Mind boost and if whether or not I think the foe will still be sleeping after the CMs, I will choose either Dream Eater or Shadow Ball. (This depends on the type of the enemy.)
 
You'll be outsped and hit SE with some Rock, Crunch, Bolt, or Beam.
And Dream Eater is mostly garbage, both in and out of game.
 
Passive_Observer said:
A short explanation. I plan to first Hypnosis, then Calm Mind boost and if whether or not I think the foe will still be sleeping after the CMs, I will choose either Dream Eater or Shadow Ball. (This depends on the type of the enemy.)
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In the battle tower it *might* work (not sure how often the CPU opponents switch). It'd be a pretty poor set for regular competitive play, though. Basically, an opponent would switch out after getting Hypno'd if they're not a sleeptalker, so you'd get one Calm Mind in at most and Shadow Ball is your only usable attack.
 
bullfrogegg8 said:
This is my ttar moveset. It revoles around screech.
Tyranitar @leftovers/life orb
252 hp/252 attack/ 4 defence
adamant
-sone edge/crunch
-screech
-pursuit
-focus punch
You screech making the foe want to switch. Then you can focus punsh the next pokemon or pursuit the weakened pokemon. The choice between life orb and leftovers is if you want durability or power. aaStone edge and crunch is a matter of preference.
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Considering Tyranitar lacks speed you might want to invest some speed EV's because when you switch this guy in (I'm assuming on something it can counter) and they switch to the necessary counter, you'll be able to screech but if they're faster than you they will just stay in and Ohko you. Even with speed EV's I'm not sure it will work that well.
 
Astaterra

Torterra (‰) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 28 HP/200 Atk/40 Def/240 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Rock Polish
- Leech Seed / Stone Edge
- Earthquake

This is a set am testing with Torterra . Crunch ohkoes Gengar and can dent Cresselia switch ins . Dont worry, this torterra doenst lose its tanking ability, leech seeding the switch-ins helps recovering the lost damage . Heatran eats a STABed earthquake right up the face . The only counter that it cant kill or atleast dent is heracross so best pair it up with a gliscor aswell as an ice resist, best candidate being bronzong . Stone Edge is there to kill those salamences stopping you from sweeping .
 
I would imagine the most common switch-in against your Torterra would be an Abomasnow which is immune to seed and is on every hail team, a Cradily which is immune to seed and takes neutral from your attacks and is on every team, or a Tangrowth which is immune to seed and takes no damage and is on a good ~10% of teams.

Additionally, a Gyarados can take your attacks like a pro without Stone Edge and then without Leech Seed you can't stand up against, say, a Hippo or Garchomp.

What does Rock Polish help you outspeed that counters Torterra anyway? His biggest worry is always either a fast Ice Beam or a Flyer that can stomp on his face and be immune to EQ. Your best option attack-wise is to drop EQ for Stone Edge altogether, though I am interested as to why Rock Polish.
 
Tyranitar (The Lorax) (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/164 Atk/92 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Dragon Dance
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With this spread ttar can come in on blissey, take the ice beam, sub up and take the seismic toss with a 101 sub, and dragon dance on the switch. It then outspeeds heracross and OHKOs with stone edge after it close combats into the sub. This guy is great at sponging hits and can throw people expecting the standard off.
 
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