Cresselia~~ can you confirm that this page says Fleur Cannon is a Draco Meteor clone?
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Gen VII: Pokémon Sun and Moon (New info Post #5834)
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Wouldn't that be an overheat clone since Dmeteor and leaf Storm copied it and psycho boost wasn't obtainable till gale of darkness outside of Japan?
Using Google Translate
Fleur Canon" that Magearna remember to be, a new technique that can only Magearna to remember.
Tricks "Fleur Canon" is, after using, but would fall Innovation solves this court music, with a high very power skills,
It can be used as a trump card when it comes to the crunch!
From arms open like a petal, a powerful beam of light is fired!
I don't know if there is more
It's definitely the item they're using bro. There is no other spot for it to be put and every other game shows what item they're holding and a 5th move slot would kind of make things a whole lot complicated. Though it would be a buff to practically every wall and stall breaker in existance.
Honestly if Synchro Evolutions can be used just like Megas can be used with Primal Reversions I'm going to be upset, that'd be way too broken.
I guess the whole putting a new meaning to teambuilding is cool, but for me having an incredibly strong Pokemon that's held back by the fact that you can use one in a team doesn't make teambuilding THAT more interesting. It's cool, but it doesn't put the biggest difference in the world since you still have to factor in everything else you would have to do in making a good team it's just a bit stronger and a little bit more limited.
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I mean, we've already see them do something very new with changing HP in a battle with Zygarde 10% -> Zygarde 100%, and it's a HUGE boost as well. If they have that "fixed" then the sky's the limit really.
Now I've had some time to think about the new Pokemon, I actually like all 3. I hope Grubbin turns out the same was Vivillon did and is actually powerful throughout the game with decent stats. Looks like it might turn into something which huge jaws ala Durant though, it's mouth looks pretty interesting.
Pikipek is likely to be extremely strong early on with STAB Fury Attack boosted by Skill Link. There's no contest here for abilities. You'll only want the Skill Link one. Why even compare it to Keen Eye? I'd like to see it turn into Grass/Flying too, but with Rowlet being there it's probably unlikely :( Wood Hammer would be such a cool move for it to get.
Yungoos... This thing. I think Strong Jaw is going to be the far better ability ingame, knowing what we do about the rather lacking attempts of the AI to switch. I presume it would not activate on a death switch in (like Retaliate), but only on mid battle switches. It'll be a pain to train against if that is the case!
Shame Ledyba is around so early... It's awful :( VERY AWFUL. No one in their right mind would use it unless they have it something very good and very new in SM to make up for its abysmal stat distribution and ability choices.
Does say that Special Attack lowers after using Fleur cannon.
So maybe it is a Draco Meteor clone.
Magearna's ability seems interesting - like a Special Moxie that also works for your side in Double Battles. Shame the mascot's abilities are just clones, but oh well. Their signature moves seem cool, and pretty powerful (Solageo's OHKOed a Salamence). I'm personally hoping we get more evolutions, not mega evolutions, of older Pokémon. I'm probably in the minority when I say I liked that aspect of Gen 4. I'd like to see an evolution of Bisharp where the female turns into a Queen (fast and frail) and the male turns into a King (slow and bulky)
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Agreed. Other than Rhyperior, all of the cross gen Pokémon were amazing. And while Magmortar is ugly, magmar is too so yeah.
However, bisharp is never going to evolve. It already evolves in the fifties!
Yes to more real evolutions for old Pokémon.
Deino also evolves very late. Twice.
They could also use an evolution method that has nothing to do with levels.
Hypothetically...
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That's pretty neat.
I'm aboard on the cross-gen evo train, while in 4th gen maybe it was excessive (when I think about that gen, excluding legendaries, I immediately recall the fact that it's full of cross-gen evos), I think that two or three lines every now and then can add some spice to old evo lines, being additional stages or alternate evo, without wasting mega evos... Mega Audino for example would've been a great Audino's evo, but it sucks as Mega. It was an abandoned formula as 5th gen took a "break", and 6th introduced Megas, but if nothing else pop ups in 7th gen it could be the right time to do it again.
I'm still hoping they'll make something for Baby mons too, they're quite useless and forgotten as they are... They need something peculiar to stand out, or to be re-arranged as base pokémon IMHO.
Speaking of Magearna, with that incredible ability, fantastic signature STAB and great typing, I'm hoping it'll not be OP movepool and stat-wise... Please no more than 100 base speed and no boosting moves, nor something too bulky. Still, I'm really thinking it'll easily become uber material if it will not reveal some serious flaws.
I'm still hoping they'll make something for Baby mons too, they're quite useless and forgotten as they are... They need something peculiar to stand out, or to be re-arranged as base pokémon IMHO.
Speaking of Magearna, with that incredible ability, fantastic signature STAB and great typing, I'm hoping it'll not be OP movepool and stat-wise... Please no more than 100 base speed and no boosting moves, nor something too bulky. Still, I'm really thinking it'll easily become uber material if it will not reveal some serious flaws.
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Yeah it definitely looks like one, but Diancie and Hoopa looked like 100 all around too and they definitely weren't, so it's hard to tell.
Well, those often learn useful moves by breeding/leveling that their evolved forms can't learn.
Self-Destruct Munchlax
Nasty Plot Pichu
Encore Wynaut
Healing Wish Mime Jr.
Nasty Plot Riolu
Tailwind Mantyke
+ Tyrogue allowing the male only Hitmons to actually inherit egg moves
Of course breeding a flawless mon, when having to use an incense, is annoying as fuck, but giving Pokémon access to more/different moves is what baby Pokémon are for imo.
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Baby Pokémon, like all the Pokémon in the Undiscovered Egg Group, actually DO have better IVs. They always have three random 31s when caught in the wild. So I'm not really sure what else you could wish for...
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I don't want to go too much OT, but I'm aware of that and they still don't make much sense as they're now to me. Peculiar moves by level-up? That's something any base 'mon could do without those annoying incenses. In 2nd gen they were a novelty, they tried to revamp them in 4th gen but without success, and now they're almost forgotten. I mean, if they have to remain "baby" instead of "base", they need something more peculiar than egg moves imho. Like, don't know, making much easier training your mon even after evolving, having better IVS or something like that. Sorry again for being OT, I'll stop here.
Didn't they make it in Gen 6 so that Pokémon in the Undiscovered Egg Group would always have 3 perfect IVs when you caught them? I was able to get an Azurill with perfect Speed, Defence and Attack on my XY.
Back on topic, I really like the look of the new region. Since it's based on Hawaii though, I don't think we'll have many Ice types, just as we didn't have many Fire types in DPPt. Definitely going with Litten as my starter though, the Fire types have always been the coolest (apart from Emboar you suck).
Back on topic, I really like the look of the new region. Since it's based on Hawaii though, I don't think we'll have many Ice types, just as we didn't have many Fire types in DPPt. Definitely going with Litten as my starter though, the Fire types have always been the coolest (apart from Emboar you suck).
There's a snowy mountain though, by GF logic there could be plenty of Ice types even in Hawaii. I'd really love ice/fire and ice/bug, they would be really fitting with the "volcanic island theme" (bug 'cause arthropods are generally amongst the first inhabitants of such ecosystems, transported by the wind, and they often get stuck in higher hills/mountains or volcanic places).
What's interesting is that these games will be compatible with Pokémon Bank, which you can transfer the Pokémon caught in RBY to. That means you could potentially have Lovely Kiss Nidoking, and Soft-Boiled + Unaware Clefable. I wonder if the ones you transfer forward will hold items, as they did with the Time Capsule Trades from GS.
Ice/Fire and Ice/Bug types - oh cruel Stealth Rock, why do you mock me. Speaking of, I hope they nerf Stealth Rock in some way. Have Rock types remove it upon switching in.
Ice/Fire and Ice/Bug types - oh cruel Stealth Rock, why do you mock me. Speaking of, I hope they nerf Stealth Rock in some way. Have Rock types remove it upon switching in.
How would this be possible? LOL
Lovely Kiss is an event only Gen II move for Nidoking.
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In that case you might aswell use the Mimic or Rage glitch and get your Lovely Kiss Nidoking before Gen VII.
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Well, I guess you 'could' get one through Arbitrary Code Execution or some other glitch but we simply have no idea which kind of checks Sun and Moon could have.
Ah forgot about that, my bad thought it was a TM in Gen 1. You could still legally have a Mew though thanks to the Mew glitch, although whether or not it'd be transferable I'm not sure. Wonder what would happen if you tried to transfer a Missingno
Pokebank doesn't allow any items at all, so no, I don't think that's going to happen.
My bet is that it wouldn't be visible on pokebank.
Just as a reminder, the transfers are through Bank, so no items, sadly.
More than likely, due to the different systems in play, a 'blank' Nidoking would be generated to give it an ability and nature, and then everything else is written over or translated as needed. Due to the relatively fragile nature of the Gen I pokémon, I could see them either ignoring the information that doesn't rightly exist (i.e., glitch moves), or the could simply just block the transfer outright, especially if there's more glitch than pokémon, like Missingno, or even non-event Mews.
By all rights, if they let glitch Mews through, then it will fall from event-exclusive status as surely as Deoxys has, and while Deoxys' drop was intentional, I don't know that they'd want the unintentional Mew to fall like that. It's one thing to AR yourself a Mew, but it's another thing entirely to let it be accessable in a main series game with no outside help.
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