Zapdos's niche in OU if I'm not mistaken is on certain Stall builds acting as a reliable defogger as well as a check to Scizor and to a lesser extent Bisharp. Not really well versed in stall at all so take my word with a grain of salt I guess but I know it rose to OU cuz Stalli really dont understand why ou ladder loves zapdos so much, it aint even that good :/
Really excited to see how shaymin and Slurpuff do in RU meta. Without doublade around this time, slurpuff may be far too hard to handle, and shaymin has really spammable powerful STAB that not many thing enjoy switching in on. Registeel can somewhat counter the two i suppose, but it doesnt have reliable recovery so it has to stay healthy forever. We shall see how they do =)
| 32 | Zapdos | 6.086% |
| 32 | Zapdos | 6.086% |
| 32 | Zapdos | 6.086% |
Because people have realised that it's really good in OU. It's one of--if not the--most physically bulky things in the tier (252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 244 HP / 216+ Def Tangrowth: 320-380 (79.6 - 94.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO <-- this is fucking disgusting) and it benefits from a lot of the current metagame trends (an influx in Ground-types, sand being fucking everywhere, the meta being generally v. phyically-oriented etc.) without being easily overwhelmed courtesy of Regen+it's good synergy with other Regen users like Slowking. There are other things too, but tl;dr Tangrowth is stupidly good atmOn a side note... why did Tangrowth suddenly get such a massive boost in usage?
It'll be horribly outclassed by Alomomola if it ever drops.| 59 | Vaporeon | 4.422% |
Can we stop using this thing so it can drop to the tier it deserves to be in.
I'm pretty sure they've already been implemented. I've been using Muk and Pelipper in PU, and I've seen Cacturne on the ladder.Who implements the tier changes? I just hope these get implemented soon.
So this isn't a one-liner, I like these tier shifts. Shaymin and Slurpuff will 2HKO everything in RU, Gurdurr finally is NU, let's see how it fares in a changed NU with no Sawk or Sceptile. Trevenant might be somewhat better in NU, not sure yet. Pelipper returns to PU, along with new drops on Rotom-F, Cacturne, Smeargle, and Muk. Quagsire is OU, might be NU in the coming months. OU is fat and it needs a treadmill. Give back Tangrowth, Quagsire, and Amoonguss to their respective tiers.
Ambipom is awful, but I think most people still don't see itI expected Tangrowth, no doubt there. I'm not shocked at the other tier changes too, except for one thing, the fact that why won't Ambipom drop already. Please people it's not that good anymore.
I think Ambipom became slightly more viable because Tyrantrum and Mega Steelix got bannedAmbipom is awful, but I think most people still don't see it
Not reallyI think Ambipom became slightly more viable because Tyrantrum and Mega Steelix got banned
Still sucks, suffers from the same problems and Sneasel totally outclasses it. Yeah, Randomnick mentioned Cinccino but it's still not good because it can't touch steels and is outclassed by Sneasel.I think Ambipom became slightly more viable because Tyrantrum and Mega Steelix got banned
Ambipom still has a niche in a Technician STAB Fake Out, but yeah, it would still mostly outclassed. Although if you're implying that it should be PU then hell fucking no, speed, power and coverage is definitely too much for it to handle.A lot of people are saying Ambipom and Cinccino should drop, and I agree with that. But would they be any good in NU?
Well they both outrun Tauros, the premier Normal type in NU - they have 115 Speed compared to Tauros's 110. In terms of power, Ambipom matches Tauros's base 100 Attack while Cinccino comes out slightly lower at 95. Cinccino's Tail Slap does outdamage Tauros's Rock Climb. In terms of damage, Ambipom comes up the shortest - while its base Attack is the same as Tauros, the bull has Sheer Force.
252 Atk Life Orb Cinccino Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 208+ Def Mega Audino: 145-175 (35.3 - 42.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tauros Rock Climb vs. 252 HP / 208+ Def Mega Audino: 133-156 (32.4 - 38%) -- 94.7% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Ambipom Return vs. 252 HP / 208+ Def Mega Audino: 114-136 (27.8 - 33.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
In terms of bulk, Tauros easily outshines them. They all share the same base 75 HP, but Tauros has 95/70 defences; Ambipom only has 66/66, while Cinccino only has 60/60. Tauros wins out in terms of movepool - it has Earthquake, Fire Blast, Zen Headbutt, Rock Slide and Iron Tail, the latter 4 all getting a Sheer Force boost. Cinccino does have a niche in Skill Link Bullet Seed though, which lets it smash through Gastrodon and defensive Carracosta.
To summarise, while Cinccino may have a niche Tauros would usually be better. And Ambipom would still be outclassed.
I lost track of this. Sorry. Will try to get it done in the next day or two.Antar do you know if the doubles and lc combined stats go up soon?