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Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII
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Also most of its body being kinda like Zygarde 10%.
Type Null isn't an ultra beast.
UB-01 is an ultra beast.
Wow, what a bombshell of a trailer!
I personally sorta hope Ultra Beasts end up being catchable at some point. Im not really sure they are actually Pokemon considering what the site says, but I think UB-01 at least has this really cool sorta "Pokemon meets Lovecraft" vibe to it, I think it'd be a shame if it was limited to boss fights only!
I personally sorta hope Ultra Beasts end up being catchable at some point. Im not really sure they are actually Pokemon considering what the site says, but I think UB-01 at least has this really cool sorta "Pokemon meets Lovecraft" vibe to it, I think it'd be a shame if it was limited to boss fights only!
Aether is something related to alchemy as the fifth element, Aristotle mentioned it in his works. Is the Riddler leak probably solved?
Oh my bad. Apologies.
Type: Null is a Pokémon. Artificial or not, it's a Pokémon. However, UB: 01 is not. It's called "creature" in the official website, and it's present under the Alola tab, not the "Pokémon" one.
Also, they put an interview in the website that nobody seems to have mentioned:
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/ohmori/
It doesn't give much, but it does say that the experience of playing Sun and Moon is going to be quite different. Hell, I'll have to buy both now, not only Moon xD.
Also, they put an interview in the website that nobody seems to have mentioned:
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/ohmori/
It doesn't give much, but it does say that the experience of playing Sun and Moon is going to be quite different. Hell, I'll have to buy both now, not only Moon xD.
Harder to say, since there are quite a few canine pokemon that could fit the bill. I put up side-by-side comparisons for the tail fin, talons, and canine features. I felt Carvahna was the best fit for the tail fin, Skarmory the best fit for the talons, and Houndour the best fit for the back paws and general build. All of these were fairly weak, though, with notably different features in some respects that made me feel that they weren't taken as specific inspiration. The only pokemon in any of my lineups that jumped out was Arceus; those crosses share an unmistakable resemblance that's much stronger than Type: Null has with any other pokemon.
Think of it in this context: Type: Null is the fifth altered, genetically modified or otherwise human-borne pokémon, created as such by mankind, following Porygon, Mewtwo, Genesect, and XD001, or Shadow Lugia. Like Mewtwo, Genesect, and XD001, we have indications that Type: Null was created with the purpose of weaponization. Unlike Mewtwo, who escaped its creator's controls, and Genesect, who's modification was opposed by N, and was completed in secret with no finalizing ties to Plasma, it appears that Type: Null is seen in a directly antagonistic role. The difference between Type: Null and XD001, as I see it, is that XD001 was built from a clear base, and a pokémon that's relatively known to the world. Type: Null wasn't. So what we have here is a Pokémon who was created as a weapon, and is only known to the world by what its creators have 'codenamed' it as. Much like UB-01 is unlikely to be the final name of the glass jellyfish, it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest if this chimera was given a proper name as well. By doing this, Game Freak manages to insert a bit of automatic intrigue into these two pokémon, while simulatenously making the plot deeper and more intrinsic.
Also, if you think about it, Type: Null may very well be the unique 'cat' that was mentioned in the leaks. It was synthetically created, and therefore might be prone to instability in its genetic code, and the overall theme of the pokémon lends itself to change. Null, in programing, indicates an empty variable, but something that can be filled in at a later point. This is one of the purposes of zero in coding as well.
Calling it now: Aether Foundation creates pokemon chimeras for whatever reason, and their whole island and reason for having one is a front for their real agenda. The island is where they create and keep their projects.
Many people have noted that Gladion looks like the AF president. Perhaps Team Skull was actually created by the AF, as a distraction and a way to steal pokemon. Basically, Team Skull are the "fall guys," purposely setting themselves up as villains to make Aether Foundation look like they're the heroes.
Ultra Beasts are definitely not pokemon, though I do get the feeling they were probably made. Either man-made or a byproduct of something else. I don't think they're aliens. Even alien pokemon (like deoxys) are still often called pokemon, while these are not. Though I guess it's not impossible. I believe this is the first time we've seen a non-pokemon entity like this in a main series game. I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
I really feel like Type: Null is some kind of classification for the pokemon, even if it is its real name. Taking into account what "null" means, I assume it was considered a failure. I wonder if there are more pokemon with those kinds of classifications. Also wouldn't be surprised if it was made by the AF, or at least has some sort of connection to it. As of right now, I'm getting SCP Foundation vibes from them.
Many people have noted that Gladion looks like the AF president. Perhaps Team Skull was actually created by the AF, as a distraction and a way to steal pokemon. Basically, Team Skull are the "fall guys," purposely setting themselves up as villains to make Aether Foundation look like they're the heroes.
Ultra Beasts are definitely not pokemon, though I do get the feeling they were probably made. Either man-made or a byproduct of something else. I don't think they're aliens. Even alien pokemon (like deoxys) are still often called pokemon, while these are not. Though I guess it's not impossible. I believe this is the first time we've seen a non-pokemon entity like this in a main series game. I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
I really feel like Type: Null is some kind of classification for the pokemon, even if it is its real name. Taking into account what "null" means, I assume it was considered a failure. I wonder if there are more pokemon with those kinds of classifications. Also wouldn't be surprised if it was made by the AF, or at least has some sort of connection to it. As of right now, I'm getting SCP Foundation vibes from them.
I know that Type: Null's collar has already been compared to Arceus' ring, but has anyone noticed that the spots on the spokes are more hexagonal in shape than oval (also the hexagons on its back legs)? I'm thinking that this might be a possible connection to Zygarde (whose design widely features hexagons). After all, if Type:Null is a synthetic pokemon, something had to serve as a base template (For example, Mewtwo despite being a modified clone, shares many features with Mew). Perhaps at some point someone cough*Aether Foundation*cough got their hands on a Zygarde cell and used its DNA as a base to create something new to serve their purpose (like looking for Ultra Beasts, or creating them)?
You can't fool me anymore Gamefreak.First you sample bits of "Dancer in the Street" from The World Ends With You and put it in Elesa's theme from B2W2, and now this UB-01"Ultra Beast" creature which bears similarities to U.B.-the Ultimate Being from Parasite Eve?
Just admit you are Square fans, we know now.
Just admit you are Square fans, we know now.
moar base HP stats mmmyes
Palossand: 77-93
Turtonator: 55-70
Bewear's pre-evo: 63-80
Mimikyu: 55-70
Alolan Raticate: 71-88, which is notably more than regular Raticate
I thought I saw Popplio in one of the trailers but I can't find it anymore.
I also ran some calcs on Turtonator vs Granbull's Ice Fang (used in the japanese trailer around 4 mins in), and Turtonator has at least 92 base defence (31 IVs, +def nature vs 0 IVs, -atk nature) and theoretically as high as... 249 base defense. Not particularly helpful as an upper bound, but we know that it will have a fairly good defense stat (potentially similar to Torkoal, in fact).
Palossand: 77-93
Turtonator: 55-70
Bewear's pre-evo: 63-80
Mimikyu: 55-70
Alolan Raticate: 71-88, which is notably more than regular Raticate
I thought I saw Popplio in one of the trailers but I can't find it anymore.
I also ran some calcs on Turtonator vs Granbull's Ice Fang (used in the japanese trailer around 4 mins in), and Turtonator has at least 92 base defence (31 IVs, +def nature vs 0 IVs, -atk nature) and theoretically as high as... 249 base defense. Not particularly helpful as an upper bound, but we know that it will have a fairly good defense stat (potentially similar to Torkoal, in fact).
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Guys... is this Colress????
Pointed out by Mitchman on Bulbaforums
Pointed out by Mitchman on Bulbaforums
This is a minor nitpick, and probably went under the radar of most people, but I can't get over the fact that they just showed Palossand (or Sandygast, whatever) apparently use Giga Drain in the Japanese trailer. Either they are really clueless or this is just another bad joke in expense of poor Ghost types a la Gourgeist learning Fire Blast/Flamethrower but having a 58 Base SpA. -__-
Seems like GameFreak just love their Water types so damn much.
Seems like GameFreak just love their Water types so damn much.
To be fair, there hasn't been a lot of water type Pokemon released in this gen, and Wishiwashi looks like a beast. Minus the fire dragon, have any fire type Pokemon been revealed? I mean, there is a freaking volcano! Maybe that volcano is late game like with Heatran but who knows?
There are Oricorio and Salandit, too.
What I meant is that they will probably try to do everything to make the sand castles stand up to water Pokemon, instead of giving them the thing that would actually be able to accomplish that without too much hassle, which is a Water immunity. I may be jumping the gun here, so I apologize, but it's definitely looking like that for me at this point. ^_^
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Have we received any comments on Pallosand's stats? Who knows, it may actually have decent Special Attack. Even if it doesn't, I'm actually a huuuuge fan of random Pokemon getting odd type coverage somewhere in their movepool even if it's almost completely useless. Stuff like Extrasensory Typhlosion or Flame Wheel Raticate or Psybeam Paras make for fun facts and neat occasional surprises.
I'm a huge fan of Colress, so this is awesome to see. I saw an image flying around too tying colress to the Z-bracelet symbol, though it's a pretty far stretch:
So you're saying the would-be fire legend cat is actually a dog.
Sounds vaguely familiar.
Or it could be because there's no actual fire on the sun. The steel typing probably comes from the fact that sun is made up of, among other things, various metals (like iron.) It also has a magnetic field.
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