NOC a nice basic game of actual mafia - game over - won by the Mafia

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Thetwinmasters said:
Alright tropius who is your top 4 scum
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first thing first, I do not like doing d1 scum reads. (I have mentioned this earlier). Give me some time to go back over the thread and I will get back to you with anybody who seems scummish to me.

SomewhatOddish said:
Why not? Could've been an attempt to prove they're town
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Seems like something weird to do however. If they are scum, why would they use such an unorthodox town proving method
 
OK I've read up a bit and here's my read:

Lynch thetwinmasters

I feel like he started the bw on Empoof for the nice day 1 easy town kill, Especially since it was started for the worst reasoning possible imo. As soon as the bw lnynbegan losing , he switched I believe
 
tropiusisbae said:
I see a lot of votes on empoof. I honestly don't see him as overly scummy. I would rather try and prevent a mislynch d1 as such I will not vote.

Note: this was mostly typed before twin posted.
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Note: this was mostly typed before twin posted
This post is only 2 sentences.

tropiusisbae said:
it is this surrender that helps me establish his innocence. While he says he is probably the best lynch, I don't recall ever hearing him claim to be scum. This entire scenario reads town to me. The only thing that doesn't gel with me is his 1st statement where he asks me what makes his play town.
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I don't get how you're the ONLY one that says this is a town play.
Whydon said:
my phone is about to die and I have no charger so I'm probably not going to be able to post or check this thread until later, sorry

since this seems like the general consensus, however, lunch empoof. I'll give my feelings on empoof when I can post (just know I'm towards high scrum for him. see you all soon.
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Twin even stated we shouldn't end day early with a quick lynch, and then you go on and lynch and say you'll post your feelings about empoof.

Mithril said:
Honestly, I'm struggling a bit to find what I think is the Empoof scum team. His unwillingness to talk about anybody other than shubaka, Sanshrewz, or Haruno definitely bothered me, as did the random ISO. But this feels like too big of a surrender.

Since I saw Whydon random vote, I'll do this real quick.

Unvote
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I liked this post because it disallowed a quickhammer

Mithril said:
Continuing, I have no idea what that vote was from Whydon. That makes me think hes scum. This also makes me more sure on Sandshrewz as mafia as that back and forth took up a ton of thread space and said absolutely nothing. Going back to my gut with vote Sandshrewz.
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I get how you say your gut says sandshrewz, but don't you want to lynch the person who is more likely to be town aka Empoof? I get the reasoning behind the unvote to stop the lynch hammer but why the lynch on sandshrewz instead of waiting?

Whydon said:
My vote is not random. I have reasoning but my phone is at two percent right now and I can't charge it. I'm worried if I try to type up my reasoning now, my phone will die and I'll lose everything. Plus I need to keep some battery if someone ends up calling me or something.

My vote is not random. I stated earlier that I would vote based off of some type of general agreement or consensus, plus added to my reasoning as to why I suspect empoof is why I voted him (yes I know I have no reasoning yet, once again my phone).
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This feels like an excuse. Also "I stated earlier that I would vote based off of some type of general agreement or consensus" makes it seem like yo
 
Here is my super fast ISO for Tropius because I'm just confused by his play.

43 - Wants to give peeking a try to confuse scum
214 - Sorry for AFK
215 - Only talk about Tropius, not dullagamur, nothing useful
217 - Idling is bad, not necessarily scummy
223 - Watching King, thinks his reads were too fast, but won't commit
226 - Makes sure his read from 223 is not seen as totally correct
230 - N/A
231 - Brings up Sandshrewz
235 - Sandshrewz is town off of awful 234 just b/c he mentioned a spreadsheet
327 - Doesn't see empoof as scummy, doesn't commit anywhere else
329 - Thinks empoof is a mislynch, trying to avoid it
333 - Surrender establishes Empoof's innocence
353 - Respects empoof for brilliant town??? play
364 - No reads for scum
368 - Empoof, Sandshrewz, Mithril for town

He just hasnt said much all game. His reads of Empoof are...odd to say the least, but I can't make sense of them as town or mafia.

If he is mafia, Sandshrewz almost certainly is though in my opinion.
 
thingy fucked up after i clicked next page, Last sentence is supposed to be , "makes it seem like your only wanting to bandwagon to seem like you are town and not come with your own idea on who to lynch."
 
Votecount 3
Empoof (5): Da Letter El, Haruno, Jalmont, King_, Whydon L-3
sandshrewz (1): Mithril
shubaka17 (1): Empoof
Thetwinmasters (1): OM room
tropiusisbae (1): Thetwinmasters

Not voting (6): Aubisio, Former Hope, sandshrewz, shubaka17, SomewhatOddish, tropiusisbae

Deadline is in 2 hours and 33 minutes.
 
Mithril said:
Here is my super fast ISO for Tropius because I'm just confused by his play.

43 - Wants to give peeking a try to confuse scum
214 - Sorry for AFK
215 - Only talk about Tropius, not dullagamur, nothing useful
217 - Idling is bad, not necessarily scummy
223 - Watching King, thinks his reads were too fast, but won't commit
226 - Makes sure his read from 223 is not seen as totally correct
230 - N/A
231 - Brings up Sandshrewz
235 - Sandshrewz is town off of awful 234 just b/c he mentioned a spreadsheet
327 - Doesn't see empoof as scummy, doesn't commit anywhere else
329 - Thinks empoof is a mislynch, trying to avoid it
333 - Surrender establishes Empoof's innocence
353 - Respects empoof for brilliant town??? play
364 - No reads for scum
368 - Empoof, Sandshrewz, Mithril for town

He just hasnt said much all game. His reads of Empoof are...odd to say the least, but I can't make sense of them as town or mafia.

If he is mafia, Sandshrewz almost certainly is though in my opinion.
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I actually think if Tropius is maf, he was trying to throw Samdshrewz under the bus by siding with him when no one else was.

I disagree with DLE on special snowflake.

Unvote, Vote Tropiusisbae

This is my final read and I like this wagon. You guys got 5 mins with me before I clock on, I still expect D1 Empoof and think it's the best wagon.

Twin - Empoof scum circle seems legit

Tropius what are your reads on the active players DLE King and Twin?
 
Tropius is high or dumb during this game.
OM room said:
OK I've read up a bit and here's my read:

Lynch thetwinmasters

I feel like he started the bw on Empoof for the nice day 1 easy town kill, Especially since it was started for the worst reasoning possible imo. As soon as the bw lnynbegan losing , he switched I believe
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Dude he resigned.
 
Okay, I have a top 3 scum list, again in no particular order. Also, I hate d1 scum reads. Anyway.
Whydon, the vote on empoof does seem suss to me. Throughout this game I have town read empoof. Taking that as a fact, it seems likely that whydon was maf trying to get a fellow maf to finish the job, or maybe even a townie he could bus
King, My initial doubts over him have not be cleared up. It is worth noting that this is more of a gut read than whydon and also a read I find less likely.
Twin. So far, the concept of twin being mafia has only been brought up by OM room. however he seems to be trying to lead the town subtly (that is the impression I get). I could see him either way. I also see OM room as being on the opposite side to twin because of his initial action. It could be a maf play of course.

I suppose i should put my money where my keyboard is and lynch Whydon as he is my biggest read
 
not liking eod aubisio, feels like trying to be on "second wagon" of tropius and doesnt want to implicate himself by voting anyone

twin getting off of empoof is fine and i don't agree with om room but the tropius vote feels forced

i really don't get the tropius scum read. all of her reads come from a consistent place of "who do i trust" and her reads feel stubborn town
 
King_ said:
To all the non voters atm, why haven't you voted and what do you think about the votes right now.
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I explained why I didn't vote. But ehhh, I guess I understand the arguments made, especially against twin. I would honestly really like to know why Twin changed votes so close to deadline.

Also, dulla literally just sniped me so now this is going to seem like bandwagoning, however as I explained in my earlier post I'm still putting whydon as my 'most likely to be mafia' so Lynch Whydon
 
Former Hope said:
I explained why I didn't vote. But ehhh, I guess I understand the arguments made, especially against twin. I would honestly really like to know why Twin changed votes so close to deadline.

Also, dulla literally just sniped me so now this is going to seem like bandwagoning, however as I explained in my earlier post I'm still putting whydon as my 'most likely to be mafia' so Lynch Whydon
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God damn it people DULLAGAMUR IS DEAD!!!!
 
tropiusisbae said:
Okay, I have a top 3 scum list, again in no particular order. Also, I hate d1 scum reads. Anyway.
Whydon, the vote on empoof does seem suss to me. Throughout this game I have town read empoof. Taking that as a fact, it seems likely that whydon was maf trying to get a fellow maf to finish the job, or maybe even a townie he could bus
King, My initial doubts over him have not be cleared up. It is worth noting that this is more of a gut read than whydon and also a read I find less likely.
Twin. So far, the concept of twin being mafia has only been brought up by OM room. however he seems to be trying to lead the town subtly (that is the impression I get). I could see him either way. I also see OM room as being on the opposite side to twin because of his initial action. It could be a maf play of course.

I suppose i should put my money where my keyboard is and lynch Whydon as he is my biggest read
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Why do you hate D1 Scum reads?

What did you mean, "or maybe even a townie he could bus"?

Did like everyone forget I called Twin out of idling and had him as my scumread. He's not even leading town subtly, Empoof resigned.
Om Room made 1 post and you already read him as town because you read Twin as mafia. Mrs "I hate d1 scumreads.
 
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