SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Full Game Datamine General Discussion Thread

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This datamine has been very disappointing in terms of new pokemon/ forms. I can't believe there aren't more Alolan forms and I'm very disappointed by the number of single evolutions and a lack of cross generation evolutions.
 
Do you mean Grass and/or Ground or Grass/Ground specifically? In the latter case, Torterra is the only one.

No like Rowlett's line would he considered a grass line in sun moon, same as bounsweet. I just wanna know how many new ground and grass types there are
 
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This is the Swellow generation
 
How many grass and ground lines do we have in the games

Grass: Rowlett/Dartrix/Decidueye, Petilil/Lilligant, Cottonee/Whimsicott, Morelull/Shiinotic, Bounsweet/Steenee/Tsareena, Fomantis/Lurantis, Phantump/Trevenant, Leafeon, Tapu Bulu, Dhelmise, Exeggute/Exeggutor (11 families)

Ground: Diglett/Dugtrio, Mudbray/Mudsdale, Sandygast/Pallosand, Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile, Trapinch/Vibrava/Flyon, Gible/Gabite/Garchomp, Shellos/Gastrodon (7 families)

I think that's it. Oh and Silvally if you have the Plates for it.
 
Do you mean Grass and/or Ground or Grass/Ground specifically? In the latter case, Torterra is the only one.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but that definitely sounds wrong.

I can't believe there is only one grass/ground line! That seems like such an easy typing to design around.

That's insane. Like I said, I am not saying you're wrong at all. Just sounds like it should be wrong. ><
 
It says I need permission to view it.

I changed the permissions. Some selfish asshole managed to change my permissions to view only overnight -_-
(I know for sure I didn't make it View Only because I saw guests using the sheet before I went to bed.)

But as I said, I highly recommend you just duplicating the file into your own Drive.
 
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but that definitely sounds wrong.

I can't believe there is only one grass/ground line! That seems like such an easy typing to design around.

That's insane. Like I said, I am not saying you're wrong at all. Just sounds like it should be wrong. ><

Yeah, this isn't even the first time I've had this conversation haha.
 
https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/796594204109586432
https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/796594204109586432
So yeah here's your new chain fishing, every ally summoned by a wild pokemon has a higher chance of being shiny and having high IVs. You can even up the chances for them to summon with a new item called Adrenaline Orb.

Edit (Item Description): Adrenaline Orb: Using it makes wild Pokémon more likely to call for help. If held by a Pokémon, it boosts Speed when intimidated. It can be used only once.
 
Grass: Rowlett/Dartrix/Decidueye, Petilil/Lilligant, Cottonee/Whimsicott, Morelull/Shiinotic, Bounsweet/Steenee/Tsareena, Fomantis/Lurantis, Phantump/Trevenant, Leafeon, Tapu Bulu, Dhelmise, Exeggute/Exeggutor (11 families)

Ground: Diglett/Dugtrio, Mudbray/Mudsdale, Sandygast/Pallosand, Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile, Trapinch/Vibrava/Flyon, Gible/Gabite/Garchomp, Shellos/Gastrodon (7 families)

I think that's it. Oh and Silvally if you have the Plates for it.

Oh I completely forgot Pallosand. Kind of wish there were more fire type families.
 
I really wouldn't have expected to get more Grass/Ghosts than Grass/Grounds, even before Grass/Ground was a thing.
It alsways just seemed like the more obvious choice.

Gen 6 and 7 really changed things around in that regard.
I'm glad they are making less obvious choices.
They are kind of going nuts with the Grass/Ghost idea, though.
 
https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/796594204109586432
So yeah here's your new chain fishing, every ally summoned by a wild pokemon has a higher chance of being shiny and having high IVs. You can even up the chances for them to summon with a new item called Adrenaline Orb.

Edit (Item Description): Adrenaline Orb: Using it makes wild Pokémon more likely to call for help. If held by a Pokémon, it boosts Speed when intimidated. It can be used only once.

So here's Pyukumuku's ultimate purpose: stalling out summoned Pokemon until you start getting good ones. If we can harvest berries, then Leppas are going to be far more relevant now.

How was burn nerfed...?

Seems to only deal half as much damage at the end of the turn compared to before.
 
https://twitter.com/pokemon_PhD/status/796594204109586432
So yeah here's your new chain fishing, every ally summoned by a wild pokemon has a higher chance of being shiny and having high IVs. You can even up the chances for them to summon with a new item called Adrenaline Orb.

Edit (Item Description): Adrenaline Orb: Using it makes wild Pokémon more likely to call for help. If held by a Pokémon, it boosts Speed when intimidated. It can be used only once.

Useable only once and they cost 300BP?? What the hell, Game Freak!! This better not be how we get Pokemon with Hidden Abilities, too!!
 
Useable only once and they cost 300BP?? What the hell, Game Freak!! This better not be how we get Pokemon with Hidden Abilities, too!!

Well according to OmegaDonut they cost 300P not BP and the only used once text applies to when its used as a held item (since other consumable held items have the same text), so pretty sure you can keep using them from your bag.
 
Useable only once and they cost 300BP?? What the hell, Game Freak!! This better not be how we get Pokemon with Hidden Abilities, too!!

Where do you see that they cost 300 BP?

Edit (Item Description): Adrenaline Orb: Using it makes wild Pokémon more likely to call for help. If held by a Pokémon, it boosts Speed when intimidated. It can be used only once.

Specifically intimidate, or any attack drop?
 
Well according to OmegaDonut they cost 300P not BP and the only used once text applies to when its used as a held item (since other consumable held items have the same text), so pretty sure you can keep using them from your bag.

Ah.. recently just woke up and coulda sworn I read "300BP." My bad, sorry.
 
Good to see good old EarthBound/MOTHER 3 experience farming techniques will be of use here, and not for just experience :P

(Do you have to KO everyone else before catching a specific Pokemon? Or has that finally been changed?)
 
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