Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

[UltiMario]

Can a Pokemon use a Z-status move if they're taunted?

Surprisingly, yes.

Does Shore Up restore less HP in other weather conditions?

No

Revelation Dance: Description says user's type determines move's type, and it can conveniently be copied by Mirror Move, so is it primary type?

It's always your type 1. Always. On top of that:

Burn Up: if Multitype Arceus holding Flame Plate uses it, can it lose its Fire type? if Oricorio-Baile uses it and then uses Revelation Dance, would it be a Flying-type move?

For Oricorio, Revelation Dance becomes typeless!

Edit: Wow this is a double interesting one. Multitype overrides Burn Up, and you remain Fire Type (as does Judgement).

Does a Pokemon with Water Compaction receive multiple boosts when hit by Water Shuriken?

Yes

Corrosion: Toxic -> Magic Coat from Corrosion user -> does it poison Poison-types? Toxic from Corrosion user -> Magic Coat -> does it poisons Poison-types?

I can't test the first, but a Salazzle Toxic doesn't poison it when bounced back.

 

[Nexus]

It's always your type 1. Always.

Is your in that case the Revelation Dance user or the mirror move user?

 

[GingerNinja87]

Can confirm that Lightclay boosts Aurora Veil but it also seems stacks with Reflect and Lightscreen.

 

[Revelation]

Can confirm that Lightclay boosts Aurora Veil but it also seems stacks with Reflect and Lightscreen.View attachment 73309

Does Hail boost Ice-type moves?

 

[LavaPlume]

Can confirm that Lightclay boosts Aurora Veil but it also seems stacks with Reflect and Lightscreen.View attachment 73309

thats interesting its treated as different.
I assume that aurora veil continues even if hail ends. nice

 

[Sapphire Birch]

Not sure if these were asked but just wanna make sure.

Does Aurora Veil go away if hail ends?

Does Aurora veil get the same reduced power in doubles as reflect/light screen?

 

[UltiMario]

Is your in that case the Revelation Dance user or the mirror move user?

Whatever Pokemon is CURRENTLY using the move (so if you copy it in ANY way, in this case Mirror Move, the Mirror Move Pokemon is CURRENTLY using that move) has THAT POKEMON'S primary type used. If Pidgeot Mirror Moves a Revelation Dance used from Fire Oricorio, it'll be Normal Type.

There's no special interactions anywhere. No weird quirks. It's the type one of the Pokemon currently using it, always always always. In the case of burn out: it turns your Type 1 (Fire) to Typeless, making Revelation Dance typeless.

 

[13_luckynumber]

Does the new mega evolution mechanics mean that, for example, on the turn Diancie mega evolve vs a Keldeo, Diancie will attack first?

Or Mega banette can Prankster wisp immediately the turn it mega evolve?

EDIT: this is huge. Diancie no longer needs protect. Lopunny no longer needs to almost always fake out first turn. Banette just got significantly better. Gallade now has a lot more to offer from Medi. Zam can psyshock a Torn before it u-turn/ knock off. BEEDRILL is pretty much Genesect now. Geezzz

 

[DuplexBeGreat]

Does the new mega evolution mechanics mean that, for example, on the turn Diancie mega evolve vs a Keldeo, Diancie will attack first?

Or Mega banette can Prankster wisp immediately the turn it mega evolve?

Yes, it means exactly that.

 

[Swagodile]

Can confirm that Lightclay boosts Aurora Veil but it also seems stacks with Reflect and Lightscreen.View attachment 73309

Is Aurora Veil broken by Brick Break and Psychic Fangs and removed by Defog like Light Screen and Reflect?

 

[GingerNinja87]

It references the exact same text as Reflect and Lightscreen in cutting damage. Aurora Veil continues to work after Hail has vanished, having Hail up is the only requirement for the move to be activated.

Its logical to assume since it stacks as a screen and is treated as one, that it is also removed by Defog, Psychic Fangs and Brick Break also.

 

[LavaPlume]

Does the new mega evolution mechanics mean that, for example, on the turn Diancie mega evolve vs a Keldeo, Diancie will attack first?

Or Mega banette can Prankster wisp immediately the turn it mega evolve?

YES !!

Not sure if these were asked but just wanna make sure.

Does Aurora Veil go away if hail ends?

Does Aurora veil get the same reduced power in doubles as reflect/light screen?

seeing as how you can extend aurora veil with light clay, it is very safe to assume it does not need a Hail going on. (cuz then hail would only last max 5 turns. it would be pointless to extend aurora veil to 8 if it would just end once hail is over)
plus the text says it can only be used in hail. as in aurora veil can only start in hail.

It is also safe to assume that yes it gets reduced power when in doubles because why not.

 

[LavaPlume]

Is Aurora Veil broken by Brick Break and Psychic Fangs and removed by Defog like Light Screen and Reflect?

yes
edit: NINJA'd

 

[Count Bleck]

Alright, let's see here...

Can Z-Moves be Mirror move'd/ Copycat'd?
If you use Feint on Baneful Bunker, do you still get poisoned?
Are any new Ground moves affected by Grassy Terrain? (Note: Earthquake, Bulldoze, and Magnitude all have their attack power nerfed)
How many turns are terrain moves boosted by a Terrain Extender?
Do Terrain seeds (Grassy, Misty, Electric, and Psychic) activate immediately upon activation or contact of a terrain?
Are Terrain Seeds affected by Harvest?
Pickup is an ability that picks up an ally's item if they've consumed it. Suppose there are two Pick Up users on the field, one with a terrain Seed, and one without. If Seeds activate upon contact with a terrain, do the buffs of seeds bounce back and forth between the two pokemon until maxed?
If a pokemon with Liquid Voice uses Perish Song, do pokemon with Water Absorb/Storm Drain proc their abilities?
Does Sparkling Aria deal bonus damage to burned targets?
In Doubles/Triples, can spotlight be used on the opponent's pokemon as an acceptable target?
Are pokemon with Dazzling/Queen's Majesty immune to Spotlight?
If a Pokemon with Simple uses Spectral Thief, are all the boosts it gains doubled?

 

[Swagodile]

Since Terrains normally last for five turns, it's a safe assumption that the Terrain Extender boosts them to 8 turns just like the weather rocks do for weather and Light Clay does Light Screen, Reflect, and Aurora Veil.

And since the descriptions for the seeds say "boosts X on X Terrain", I'm assuming they activate as soon as the terrain does.

 

[PimpParasect]

Has it been confirmed that the Terrain Extender item affects trick room? Or is trick room flagged to not be a terrain.

 

[Swagodile]

Has it been confirmed that the Terrain Extender item affects trick room? Or is trick room flagged to not be a terrain.

Trick Room is not a terrain.

Weather, Terrain, and Trick Room are all different, and can be stacked; for example, you can have Rain, Electric Terrain, and Trick Room all in effect the same time.

 

[13_luckynumber]

How does Psychic Terrain interact with Pursuit?

 

[Swagodile]

How does Psychic Terrain interact with Pursuit?

Pursuit only gains +7 priority when the opponent switches, so it can hit before they switch out.

Otherwise, it's not a priority move and is thus unaffected by Psychic Terrain.

 

[LavaPlume]

Alright, let's see here...

Can Z-Moves be Mirror move'd/ Copycat'd?
If you use Feint on Baneful Bunker, do you still get poisoned?
Are any new Ground moves affected by Grassy Terrain? (Note: Earthquake, Bulldoze, and Magnitude all have their attack power nerfed)
How many turns are terrain moves boosted by a Terrain Extender?
Do Terrain seeds (Grassy, Misty, Electric, and Psychic) activate immediately upon activation or contact of a terrain?
Are Terrain Seeds affected by Harvest?
Pickup is an ability that picks up an ally's item if they've consumed it. Suppose there are two Pick Up users on the field, one with a terrain Seed, and one without. If Seeds activate upon contact with a terrain, do the buffs of seeds bounce back and forth between the two pokemon until maxed?
If a pokemon with Liquid Voice uses Perish Song, do pokemon with Water Absorb/Storm Drain proc their abilities?
Does Sparkling Aria deal bonus damage to burned targets?
In Doubles/Triples, can spotlight be used on the opponent's pokemon as an acceptable target?
Are pokemon with Dazzling/Queen's Majesty immune to Spotlight?
If a Pokemon with Simple uses Spectral Thief, are all the boosts it gains doubled?

feint bypasses spiky shield damage. so no you wont get poisoned
im sure its only those moves (there arent any new ground shaking attacks)
terrain parallels weather, so from 5 to 8
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seeds shouldnt be affected by harvest, harvest affects berries.
Pick up has never worked like that. ( more info http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pickup_(Ability)
perish song is status field move. (rain dance does not activate storm drain/water absorb) i do not expect perish song to either
No bonus damage, text doesnt say anything about bonus damage
Spotlight is for Battle royale. (spotlighted pokemon do not get attacked by partner pokemon through redirection)
spectral thief works like psych up. the stats just get copied. its not like its stats were raised or lowered. (same reasoning with how swords dance baton passing to a simple mon will not suddenly give the simple mon +4)

 

[GingerNinja87]

Terrain Extender gives terrains 8 turns regardless if it was by terrain ability or terrain move

 

[13_luckynumber]

Pursuit only gains +7 priority when the opponent switches, so it can hit before they switch out.

Otherwise, it's not a priority move and is thus unaffected by Psychic Terrain.

Sorry i didnt phrase my question clear enough. I meant does Psychic terrain block +7 Pursuit. I know you said it doesnt but the reasoning doesnt make sense.

 

[DTC]

does knock off have 65 BP or 97.5 BP vs pokemon holding z-items

 

[Count Bleck]

Pick up has never worked like that. ( more info http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pickup_(Ability)

I see. So in this case, onlyPick Up would activate twice, once per pokemon, at the end phase, and then stop.

perish song is status field move. (rain dance does not activate storm drain/water absorb) i do not expect perish song to either.

In 6th Gen, Ion Deluge turned Perish Song into an Eletric Attack, and when used in that scenario, activated Lighting Rod, Volt Absorb, and Motor Drive. In addition, those pokemon affected were immune to Perish Song's countdown

 

[GingerNinja87]

Electric Seed gave me an instant + 1 Def when it entered the battlefield and the item disappeared from Tapu Koko, safe to say Unburden users can benefit from this in doubles which is neat.