SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon

Ryuki, one of the challengers for the Champion title matches. He's a rocker who expertise is Dragon-types.
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He's from someplace other than Alola which makes me wonder how he even got to challenge you in the first place. There's no Gyms yet so I thought the only way to be allowed to take on the Pokemon League was through the Island Challenge, but that's an honor reserved for Alola natives. So can you just go to the Alola Pokemon League and challenge it?
 
Pikachu315111 said:
Ryuki, one of the challengers for the Champion title matches. He's a rocker who expertise is Dragon-types.
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He's from someplace other than Alola which makes me wonder how he even got to challenge you in the first place. There's no Gyms yet so I thought the only way to be allowed to take on the Pokemon League was through the Island Challenge, but that's an honor reserved for Alola natives. So can you just go to the Alola Pokemon League and challenge it?
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Recall that you are not an Alolan native either. You're from Kanto. So he could have gotten there through the Island Challenge. Alternatively, if he has eight badges from another region, the Kahunas could have just let him face the League (possibly after he beat them).
 
jordanthejq12 said:
Recall that you are not an Alolan native either. You're from Kanto. So he could have gotten there through the Island Challenge. Alternatively, if he has eight badges from another region, the Kahunas could have just let him face the League (possibly after he beat them).
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Okay, I misspoke. To do the trials you have to live in Alola which the player character does while Ryuki doesn't seem to be. Also I don't see why the E4 would accept another region's set of Badges, what significance do they have to a different region's Pokemon League?
 
Pikachu315111 said:
Ryuki, one of the challengers for the Champion title matches. He's a rocker who expertise is Dragon-types.
VSRyuki.png

He's from someplace other than Alola which makes me wonder how he even got to challenge you in the first place. There's no Gyms yet so I thought the only way to be allowed to take on the Pokemon League was through the Island Challenge, but that's an honor reserved for Alola natives. So can you just go to the Alola Pokemon League and challenge it?
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Could be Sun/Moon's version of XY's Strange Souvenir. He could very well become an important NPC in some later game. Though, I haven't come far enough in the games yet to encounter him, so I can't say for sure if he seems to fulfill that role or not.
 
Codraroll said:
Could be Sun/Moon's version of XY's Strange Souvenir. He could very well become an important NPC in some later game. Though, I haven't come far enough in the games yet to encounter him, so I can't say for sure if he seems to fulfill that role or not.
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I thought that the Yungoos line were the equivalent to the Strange Souvenir
 
With all this speak of the strange souvenir, did we actually see it or anything that had to do with it? I honestly don't recall any hint of it in Sun and Moon so far. The closest thing it the Tapus I guess, when they close their shell(?) things they resemble tiki heads, but none like the strange souvenir. I guess you could argue that it's a totem, and thus was a hint at the new trial system.
 
WaffleTitan said:
With all this speak of the strange souvenir, did we actually see it or anything that had to do with it? I honestly don't recall any hint of it in Sun and Moon so far. The closest thing it the Tapus I guess, when they close their shell(?) things they resemble tiki heads, but none like the strange souvenir. I guess you could argue that it's a totem, and thus was a hint at the new trial system.
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Well you're given one by someone and they sell them in the bargain mart, but from what I can tell they still have no use.
 
To add on to that, the item listing says it "depicts a Pokemon that has been venerated as a guardian deity for an extremely long time in Alola."

So odds are it's a reference to an island Tapu, or perhaps Solgaleo/Lunala.

Or perhaps it could tie in to Necrozma
 
Xen said:
To add on to that, the item listing says it "depicts a Pokemon that has been venerated as a guardian deity for an extremely long time in Alola."

So odds are it's a reference to an island Tapu, or perhaps Solgaleo/Lunala.

Or perhaps it could tie in to Necrozma
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Yeah, in the video above it says "The strange souvenir is made in the image of the guardian tapu who protect our islands". Whoever made the strange souvenir obviously does not know what the tapus look like.
Also, not exactly a mystery, per say, but why does everyone seem to want to go to Kanto? I mean, I don't believe that characters in any other games (except obviously GSCHGSS) even really mention going to another region to train much less actually explicitly going to another region. The over the top amount of references seems out of place in comparison to past Pokemon games, especially for a reason that is considered far away. And what did you guys understand from the Professor's crypticish statements about challenging the Pokemon league in Kanto? From what I gained, he beat the elite four, but lost to Lance. I'm not sure if this was mentioned anywhere else outside of the Alola Pokemon league. All these Kanto references made it seem like the player was bound for Kanto themselves. Maybe there is nothing to it, they just decided to mention Kanto a ton because it's the 20th anniversary. Regardless, I suppose that we now have a slightly more concrete notion of the geography of the Pokemon world: Kanto, and by extention, Jhoto, is far away from Alola, so is Kalos (ala the strange souvenir description in XY). We already assumed that, but now we know for a fact that it's correct, which is nice.
 
Regarding the souvenir, the image is the same as the tiki statues scattered around Alola (like the ones surrounding the ring where you get your starter in Iki Town).
 
stage7_4 said:
Regarding the souvenir, the image is the same as the tiki statues scattered around Alola (like the ones surrounding the ring where you get your starter in Iki Town).
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Are you referring to these statues?
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because it can hardly be said that they even resemble the strange souvenir at all (other than they both are inspired by tikis) much less being the same image...
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WaffleTitan said:
Are you referring to these statues?
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because it can hardly be said that they even resemble the strange souvenir at all (other than they both are inspired by tikis) much less being the same image...
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No, not those ones the OTHER ones. Sorry I don't have images yet, let me see if I can find them. They are all over Alola, and you might mistake them for just rocks or posts until you take a closer look.

Edit: Can anyone help me out on this? All my phone pictures are too blurry and for the life of me I can't find them in any screenshots.

They are the short and squat stone tiki statues scattered around Alola that look sort of like the strange souvenir. They are everywhere, and there's one in Iki village if you go northeast of the fighting ring where they give you your starter (there's also two more outlining the stairs to the northern part of the village).
 
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Hulavuta said:
Hey guys, what if Professor Kukui is really the Masked Royal?
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Oh, Please! What are you saying? They are just identical strangers! Just because Molayne tells you to give the Masked Royal's mask to Kukui, as well as calling him "masked" and "royale", does not mean they are the same person!

</sarcasm>

(Well, at least Professor Burnet would think that way)
 
Siggu said:
Oh, Please! What are you saying? They are just identical strangers! Just because Molayne tells you to give the Masked Royal's mask to Kukui, as well as calling him "masked" and "royale", does not mean they are the same person!

</sarcasm>

(Well, at least Professor Burnet would think that way)
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I still think Burnet's playing with the Kayfabe a bit there
 
Hulavuta said:
Hey guys, what if Professor Kukui is really the Masked Royal?
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Pfft, yeah, and Dexio and Sina are the Defenders of Kalos (oh, sure, they're accused of being them but we never really confirmed it, now did they?).

Anyway, I love how one of the responses upon meeting the Masked Royale was "Professor?". Usually the games make you play along with the ruse (like with the Defenders of Kalos; do you think Dexio and Sina still do that?), but Sun & Moon's option to sorta gives you some control on how your player responds gives some great quotes.

SwampySwampert said:
One thing that I find hilarious and also mystifying:

How the hell do the PC's legs not fall off after biking for that long?
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How have they not starved to death? How have their bladder not exploded for there being no bathroom? How are they not exhausted without sleeping for long periods of time?
 
Yeah, we can just chock up this stuff to story and gameplay segregation. Be glad we don't have to eat, that has gotta be one of the most annoying features of the old Mystery Dungeon games.

Anyway, as for a real theory about Professor Kukui, do you think it's possible that he and Olivia were romantically involved at some point? There was a point that really stuck out to me, where you first meet the Aether guy (after you find out about Professor Burnet and beat Olivia's challenge) where Olivia mentions that she looks after the island challengers as if they were her own children. And then seemingly for no reason says "not that I have children of my own. In fact, I've never even been married!" It just seemed super out of place to me. I thought maybe she was being super passive-aggressive toward Kukui since he was there. Like she never was able to move on from that. Or maybe GF (or the localization team) really wanted to emphasize how un-promiscuous she is, for the kids. I know there was a small bit of controversy about her look before.
 
Hulavuta said:
Yeah, we can just chock up this stuff to story and gameplay segregation. Be glad we don't have to eat, that has gotta be one of the most annoying features of the old Mystery Dungeon games.

Anyway, as for a real theory about Professor Kukui, do you think it's possible that he and Olivia were romantically involved at some point? There was a point that really stuck out to me, where you first meet the Aether guy (after you find out about Professor Burnet and beat Olivia's challenge) where Olivia mentions that she looks after the island challengers as if they were her own children. And then seemingly for no reason says "not that I have children of my own. In fact, I've never even been married!" It just seemed super out of place to me. I thought maybe she was being super passive-aggressive toward Kukui since he was there. Like she never was able to move on from that. Or maybe GF (or the localization team) really wanted to emphasize how un-promiscuous she is, for the kids. I know there was a small bit of controversy about her look before.
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Maybe she's trying to hide her age? I'm wondering if maybe we have a bit of a "Christmas Cake" issue going on here. Hmm? What does "Christmas Cake" have to do with this? Well it's a Japanese cultural thing.

In Japan, it's traditional for a woman to get married at a young age, at least before the age of 25. When Christmas customs came over to Japan, the term "Christmas Cake" began being used to refer to unmarried woman over 25, they're "unsold" and now no one wants them. It's a cruel stigma and I can imagine some unmarried woman at age 25 developing some complex of trying not to look or act old, aka still be attractive. Olivia's choice of clothing (or lack their of), he making sexy poses, and mentioning how she may be single but she's not a fuddy duddy makes me think this might be what's going on with her character: she's an older, unmarried woman who doesn't want to be perceived as old or unattractive.
 
Hulavuta said:
Yeah, we can just chock up this stuff to story and gameplay segregation. Be glad we don't have to eat, that has gotta be one of the most annoying features of the old Mystery Dungeon games.

Anyway, as for a real theory about Professor Kukui, do you think it's possible that he and Olivia were romantically involved at some point? There was a point that really stuck out to me, where you first meet the Aether guy (after you find out about Professor Burnet and beat Olivia's challenge) where Olivia mentions that she looks after the island challengers as if they were her own children. And then seemingly for no reason says "not that I have children of my own. In fact, I've never even been married!" It just seemed super out of place to me. I thought maybe she was being super passive-aggressive toward Kukui since he was there. Like she never was able to move on from that. Or maybe GF (or the localization team) really wanted to emphasize how un-promiscuous she is, for the kids. I know there was a small bit of controversy about her look before.
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Well they didn't exactly avoid controversy with her altogether. Watch this video (you don't need sound):
I haven't had time to go and check to see if this is a real ingame occurrence, but I have no reason to believe it's fake. And assuming it is real, what the actual fuck gamefreak. What we're they thinking.
 
Whoever titled the video that way is a raging fucking moron. You can eat with other characters too; the only reason that one's being viewed differently is because of how she looks. The toy thing is super weird, but who gives a shit?
 
Hey, let's cool the vitriol.

Anyway, yes the Olivia event is real. It randomly happens once a day if you go to a restaurant (other than the battle buffet) and order the most expensive thing on the menu. An NPC will show up and ask to eat with you and you'll get a larger than normal yield of heart scales along with not having to pay for the meal.

First time I've seen Olivia show up, but she's not the only candidate. Other people can show up too.

For a new mystery, how do you think Alola was made?

Most know that the Hawaiian islands are formed from a volcanic hotspot that's slowly drifting. A new island pops up where the hotspot is but the old ones erode away. For Hawaii this is pretty clear as the islands branch to the west in order of increasing size.

Alola is really weird though. The hotspot is on Akala island which is dead center of the region, while the largest island Ula'ula doesn't have any volcanic activity (but it does have two mountains, which could be dormant volcanoes). So either this hotspot has a very weird geological drift or this is what I get for applying real world geology to Pokemon.
 
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