Whats your opinon

dance_ivan_dance

Hey I was just wondering everyones opinon on the best revenge killer and there movesets I really want one on my team so please give me some ideas.
 
You basically have 3 choices. CBWeavile, CBTar, Dugtrio.

Weavile and TTar obviously would need Pursuit.
 
Revenge killers should have Pursuit or Arena Trap, otherwise it's not assured.
I'm a fan of the three mentioned of course as well as Honchkrow, Trapinch, and Magnezone/Probopass.
 
*coughnoteverythingthatsreallyfastisalwaysagoodrevengekillercough*

Dugtrio is the best revenge killer with its awesome ability. Weaville and Tyranitar are cool as well.

Dugtrio's Arena Trap ability make Pursuit almost useless (except against levitators like gengar but why trap them?)
 
dance_ivan_dance said:
You guys all mentioned dugtrio right?
Well would pursuit be good for dugtrio?
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I lol'd at this. Pursuit's power doubles if you hit a pokemon as it's switching out. Most pokemon can't switch out of dugtrio because of arena trap and the reason why it is called a revenge killer. Hence pursuit on it is nearly useless on it.

I'll also add this: it depends what you want in a revenge killer.

If something annoys you and you don't want it switching out of a threat and coming back in to annoy you later, so you want to guarantee that it can't escape, then you're left with only 3 pokemon as stated. But the pokemon ttar can weavile and kill with pursuit is very limited. Dugtrio isn't very OU because it's fast but relatively weak and it restricted to killing fragile sweepers that it can score super effective hits on like infernape.

If however, you want something that will take out something that has set up, then any fast pokemon will do the job, scarfchomp being the most popular. Say a porygonz has set up 3 nasty plots and killed something and is on its way to sweep your entire team. You can bring something like a scarfchomp in after something has died and either kill it if they keep it in or force it to switch out and lose all its boosts. You'd be surprised how many people keep it in because they can't bear to lose 3 nasty plots ad hope you cant KO them or hope they are faster somehow.

The reason scarfchomp is so popular for this job is that outrage hits everything apart from steel tanks very hard. So even if they do switch out, there's a good chance the pokemon they send out will be hurt very badly or even KOed by outrage. But any scarfer/very fast pokemon can do this job.
 
Well a "revenge killer" doesn't have to force things not to switch. Look at Weaville.
 
It all depends on how dead you want that pokemon that killed you.

If you don't have Pursuit or Arena Trap or Magnet Pull, you're not assuring the death. Granted you can still kill other pokemon that switch in, but that all goes back to the original premise.
 
Techintop can work quite well, with Fake Out, Mach Punch and Pursuit. You can take down enemies easily with high powered first strike moves, and it works even better if they don’t want to switch out (like a Garchomp with a SD under it’s belt)
 
Pneuma said:
It all depends on how dead you want that pokemon that killed you.

If you don't have Pursuit or Arena Trap or Magnet Pull, you're not assuring the death. Granted you can still kill other pokemon that switch in, but that all goes back to the original premise.
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Well technically for revenge killing you don't have to kill the pokemon that KOed your last pokemon. I mean killing something that switches in is just as good for me lol.

But yea...if you really want a certain pokemon dead then the only real way to guarantee that is with dugtrio or a pursuiter provided pursuit can actually kill them.

skiddle said:
Techintop can work quite well, with Fake Out, Mach Punch and Pursuit. You can take down enemies easily with high powered first strike moves, and it works even better if they don’t want to switch out (like a Garchomp with a SD under it’s belt)
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You have no idea how true that is. When someone has gotten in some nasty plots/swords dances and killed something, they almost always refuse to switch them out and would rather take their chances and sweep with it. Of course then they get KOed by scarfchomp.
 
Well, there's some others with Pursuit that can work mildly well.

Ambipom with Fake Out, U-turn, Pursuit, and Focus Punch is only for some kind of prediction god.

Staraptor, Aerodactyl, Guts Swellow, and Dodrio can all pull off the "I'm a fast fucking bird, CAW CAW!" moveset with Pursuit as filler or to hit flying-weaks.

CB Slaking of course.
CB Heracross of course.
 
Choice Scarf Flygon works wonders as a revenge killer, with SR help, it can revenge kill plenty of stuff, and most people don't expect it.

Dugtrio works too, I've just had bad experiences. Like leaving stuff with 1-5% health left over. That really ticks me off.
 
I lol'd at this. Pursuit's power doubles if you hit a pokemon as it's switching out. Most pokemon can't switch out of dugtrio because of arena trap and the reason why it is called a revenge killer. Hence pursuit on it is nearly useless on it.
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Tell that to Gengar and Azelf who try to flee the approaching Night Slash/Sucker Punch only to be OHKO'd by CB Pursuit. Dugtrio does have uses for it, if you have problems with those two Pokemon - and lets face it, most people do. Night Slash/Sucker Punch generally have more use though, but I always use Pursuit on Trio.
 
Just because you have Pursuit doesn't mean you'll 'gurantee a kill' also. Do you think Infernape will care if you bring in your Weavile to revenge kill it? Just because something will switch out doesn't mean that the revenge killer didn't do it's job. I mean I sure as hell call Scarfchomp a Revenge killer when it switches into something thats +6 in all stats sans speed and defense.
 
For me it's Dugtrio. If Blissey wins a long, hard stall battle with your Hippowdon, leaving it at like 30%, what do you? Quake the shit out of her. Who can we turn to when Modest PorygonZ gets a couple Nasty Plots and Tri-Attacks your Bliss? Dugtrio, easy pickings. When CB Heracross 2HKOs your Skarm? I don't know how, but Dugtrio will find a way to Aerial Ace him. When Tyranitar Pursuits your poor Alakazam? Go in and quake his fat ass off the stage.

It's just so easy for it to come in on weakened foes, trap them, and KO them. He's just awesome, the cleaner-upper.
 
my personal favorite is a jolly heracross holding choice scarf w/ pursuit, CC (close combat), Stone Edge, and megahorn. you can come in on something expecting to be faster than you after they killed something, such as a pokemon attempting to reach somewhere around 404 speed to outspeed adamant scarfcross, then get a surprise KO on it. can pursuit somehting that would switch out of it normally. when you pursuit as switching pokemon with a chioce poke, you then get to switch moves, so you can wreak havoc on whatever came in w/ any of your moves. can reach 442 speed max., outspeeding anything not carrying scarf except possibly ninjask and speed deoxys. everytihng else is outsped by this beast.
 
Lee said:
Tell that to Gengar and Azelf who try to flee the approaching Night Slash/Sucker Punch only to be OHKO'd by CB Pursuit. Dugtrio does have uses for it, if you have problems with those two Pokemon - and lets face it, most people do. Night Slash/Sucker Punch generally have more use though, but I always use Pursuit on Trio.
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Notice I said nearly useless as I am clearly aware of flyers and levitators being able to switch out. Out of these pokemon, you basically mentioned the only 2 where pursuit would actually do something.

If these are the pokemon that your team fears and want to revenge kill then weavile does that. Unless you really want to stuff weavile's revenge killing job into dugtrio as well to save space.
 
Sharpedo

Rough Skin
Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Jolly or Adamant
255 attack and 255 speed

-Crunch/Night Slash
-Ice Fang
-Waterfall/Aqua Jet
-Earthquake
 
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