NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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Ah, I was thinking on which of the two to vote, and I forgot to elaborate more on my answer, sorry. I find the massive link (SO MUCH of them feels like buddying that's trying not to be too much) to indicate UncleSam given my read on Yeti AND given my Winter-Delta post-analysis. I thought Yeti first before, but given w-d's posts, I think shooting US first is slightly better.
 
AG's reads seem a bit weird. As in suggesting the scum team would be in w-d's scum reads, and while it's highly probable that there are scum in their reads, I find it highly unprobable that 3/5 scum reads (going off of AG's 25th thing) would be scum.

More so, this verifies to me that scum are trying to push for yeti, US and myself, which does further my belief that leet is a very strong candidate to be scum (I'm not sure where it comes off as w-d being flippy floppy on me, they pretty strongly wanted me shot)

Vote to shoot: leet
 
winter-delta said:
Explanation for SRing Yeti and FH

Yeti: Actually not as scumlocky as I thought. She's actually been pretty helpful, but like US, keeps pressuring idlers. Maybe theyre scumbuddies, maybe this is what they always do in NOCs, idk. Some of the walls she posts are just rage against someone who FoSed/scumread+reasoning her. The most recent issue though: She's trying to make herself townlock. Remember how haruno tried to keep getting the gun? Granted, we were actually wrong about him being mafia, but twice in the same game? ...Probably not. Scummy.
FH: One-lining, bandwagoning, and recently, extreme tunneling. Like I said in my first non-vote post(although this was targeted towards empoof): racking up post count and appearing like a vocal town.
oh, and Tinfoil Hat Time:
FH and Hitmon are scum bussing one another, which would explain why they are zeroing in on one another ONLY.
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I think this is the post you are referring to Aura Guardian in which W-D explains their scum read on me by saying I want to appear like a vocal town, not calling me a vocal town.
 
Jalmont said:
Feels weird to me the # of people universally town reading Flyhn. Has anyone scum read him at all?
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I'm personally town reading flyhn based on his earlier interactions with shubaka and coming off as genuinely pressuring them. I think there's still room for doubt (especially if DLE flips scum, implying that DLE was trying to get a scum buddy to be the locked town) but there's a strong case for town=flyhn from the shubaka interactions.
 
CORRECTED scumteam list based on recent conversation:
Scumteam based on this:
UncleSam (bussing, strong link, reads him towny despite scummy stuff and reads Yeti as scummy for the inverse reason, and my prior reads)
Yeti (possibly, bussing, and that massive link between Her and US already, also my prior reads)
at least one of: MoodyCloud, Fort Colorcastle (trying to point the gunbearer at two of them them, possibly bussing, and that post grouping himself with Moody and Fort.)
One of: Thetwinmasters, Asek, Da Letter El (from those neutral reads and only cursory mentions of them after)
Josh (that policy town and from the spread)
Maybe a second from that first list if it's not Moody and not from the second.

Note that I removed Hitmonleet, too, because of that tinfoil hat thing. Totally not the way a mafia would bus someone if they wanted it to have a chance to work.
 
Jalmont said:
Feels weird to me the # of people universally town reading Flyhn. Has anyone scum read him at all?
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^This

That's why i'm a bit hesitant of taking it and rolling with it. Scum wants me to be the town lock for some reason, given how universal it is with 9:5 left, which could only be a bad thing. It's making me nervous about my reads, and too paranoid to really take on the leadership role that I really SHOULD be taking in this position, especially when I have gunbarers sheeping me regardless (how you got shot in the first place)
 
Former Hope said:
Actually the tin foil hat thing is an oddity that does stick out quite a bit with her flip...

Hitmonleet Now knowing that a scum was trying to get me shot, has your read on me changed?
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Not really. After all, there are no PRs, no scum kills or anything. There is no reason to not buss your comrades, as long as one of you don't get shot.

Also, it really bothers me that you literally use the excuse of scum scumreading you in order to look towny, and straight up asking me if my read on you has changed. If you were actually town, you'd be focusing on seeking out scum, as opposed to trying to save your own hide. Since town has nothing to lose from being shot, they should be focusing on targeting their scumreads and scumhunting.

So, in fact, my view on you HAS changed.

It's now Lockscum, personally.

VOTE FORMERHOPE.

Please excuse me for sounding like a broken record, but I'd like someone to share their thoughts.

However, one thing I will agree with you on is that Aura Guardian is honestly feeling a bit odd to me rn. I'm going to make a dedicated post on my thoughts on him in a bit.
 
This of course, it straight up bull. Town loses by getting shot. Therefor, the best town play is to simply try to not get shot. Meanwhile scum on the otherhand, have to try to not only stop themselves from getting shot, but also their teammates from being entirely eliminated and so the best guise for scum to take, is to scumhunt and try to divert the shooter to town targets to dwindle towns numbers.
 
Former Hope said:
This of course, it straight up bull. Town loses by getting shot. Therefor, the best town play is to simply try to not get shot. Meanwhile scum on the otherhand, have to try to not only stop themselves from getting shot, but also their teammates from being entirely eliminated and so the best guise for scum to take, is to scumhunt and try to divert the shooter to town targets to dwindle towns numbers.
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Town only loses if ALL town gets shot. Thus, you should care more about finding scum, and less about simply deflecting suspicion off of yourself. Meanwhile, you've barely tried to find scum, and have been obsessed with avoiding suspicion and being shot.

Also, for a list of people I think we should maybe look at:
FH (Duhh)
UncleSam (Just feels kind of odd to me, with a lot of baseless claims and walls that honestly feel pretty padded)
Flyhn (Even though he seems pretty towny to me, it bothers me thay nobody has seriously looked over his posts/ISOed him since the early game.)
Aura Guardian(Feels kind of off to me in his posts, although his reads seem ok, the reasoning kind of flops.)
Blazade(I just don't know what to think of this guy rn. The fact that they've seemingly vanished from discussion at this point isn't exactly in his favor.)
Twin (As above, so below.)
 
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