NOC Why is there a gun in my popcorn? GAME OVER SCUM WIN

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i'm of the personal opinion that extending in the case of subs, especially the number of subs we've had today, is perfectly reasonable and not an abuse case in any way

my 2 cents as a frequent host
 
Multiple players brought up the timespan as being too long. I did the math and realized there was a possibility of the game lasting longer than a month, so I took it to a vote and the majority decided to change it.
 
I'll make a one-time exception and grant an extra day because of the subs.

But you guys need to know I have thoroughly scraped the bottom of the barrel subwise and there is nobody left to sub. If you get malaria and die, you're SOL.

New deadline is April 8th noon UTC-6.
 
I'll address a few things I've read while catching up

Yeti said:
w-d flipping scum is no surprise, i vote moody or aura guardian as the next shot

if these 2 are mafia sam assuredly is. ag had been sort of subtly defending sam and pushing the shot onto me instead but now voted sam today, trying to tie me to sam. i think he is trying to set up this "if 1 is mafia both are" connect which i know i am not, but makes me think sam is ag's partner, clearly inactive, so an easy bus target. ag votes me as a throwaway vote, knowing jalmont townreads me and isn't going to shoot me, with sam as this "yeah sure he's a good shot too;" now today ag pushes for sam when he has high odds of being shot so ag can get towncred for scumreading his own teammate.

that or ag REALLY wants 2 competent town shot.
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I assume you meant that you think I'm bussing Unclesam, because I've had him as number one scum gut read for a while. Aura guardian seem to deny having defended him too.

Josh and moody is obvious link and ive scumread moody for like 3 cycles now
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Too obvious? I mean he went out of his way to defend me when the vast majority scumread me, that isn't too subtle and contrasts with his behavior towards winterdelta if Josh was scum. Not that I'm not suspicious of King having been subbed in as mafia but that can wait, and it makes sense that he'd watch the thread without posting if he's catching up as he said he was.
 
Looking at Flyhn's big post on winterdelta interactions

#887 - Asek doesn't think a scumteam would just let someone flounder this much
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Oh right that one did fly under my radar

From that post Hitmonleet looks townier to me, Unclesam looks better too but it still could very well be bussing to try and earn town points.

Atm I'm on Unclesam/Asek/Former hope as shot pool
Looking back on Twin's reaction to winterdelta's post it looks like he's calling her out but it's done mostly with one liners without much substance, making me consider the Unclesam/Twin giving up on a teammate narrative more. Twin isn't high enough on my list yet to warrant a shot though, but if one flips scum I'd look into the other.
 
MoodyCloud said:
Looking at Flyhn's big post on winterdelta interactions


Oh right that one did fly under my radar

From that post Hitmonleet looks townier to me, Unclesam looks better too but it still could very well be bussing to try and earn town points.

Atm I'm on Unclesam/Asek/Former hope as shot pool
Looking back on Twin's reaction to winterdelta's post it looks like he's calling her out but it's done mostly with one liners without much substance, making me consider the Unclesam/Twin giving up on a teammate narrative more. Twin isn't high enough on my list yet to warrant a shot though, but if one flips scum I'd look into the other.
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I said wd was scum way before my response to her awful reads post
 
yo I'm kinda tired but I just skimmed / read through the whole game. my top scum read is former hope. he is idling a lot more in this game than he usually does, and then when someone finally pressures him in the late 30's he suddenly pops up activity wise and becomes super defensive. I find this to be objectively scummy rather than player meta, which is something I'm noticing a lot of this game, moreso than other games, just something interesting to note.

I am very tired rn and so I am not listing all of my scum > town reads in a particular order like I usually do. just looking at the situation, I like how twin immediately reaction tests me, solid town play and he is one of my higher town reads atm just meta-wise, from that play, and the wd read earlier, perhaps my best one but i think flyhn might be higher (foreshadowing). also townread flyhn.(lol the suspense has been built) his posts are quality and actually have content, holy shit, unlike legitimately everyone else in this game lol. at the beginning he was a bit shifty but he got over that once he started doing solid isos.

i complete my initial townreads with aura guardian and hitmonleet. hitmonleet is a complete and total meta read, i find his posts more akin to his town game than his scum game, i.e. the ones where he's like we should look at x for x reason lol. as for ag, i like his confidence in his reads and how he is pretty consistent, him referencing his previous posts in more recent ones shows this.

i post more null/town/scum tomorrow when I'm not tired n______________n
 
K so why I think pancake is scum is purely off of josh's action on page 36
town should defend themselves. I find the notion scum are the only ones that care about dying to be moronic. but, you need to scumhunt WHILE you defend yourself. great, you're town, so who's scum? you should always argue with your own death; I'm pretty sure not avoiding death as hard as possible is playing against your wincon as either alignment.

so hey winter

defend urself cuz a lot of ppl scum read you
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This is the 1st post about wd after she posted this
winter-delta said:
I've got nothing wrong with a vote unclesam.
if hes town he shoots an idler and probably dies because the previous two idlers shot were actually town. at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if they all flipped town lmao
if hes mafia we are minus one scum, five more to go.
either way we gain insight on yeti.
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That post reads to me as josh trying to cover scum wd rly shitty post in the thread instead of trying to gain more info from her which makes josh scum more likely imo. And these actions isn't like how he pressured other users.
Next is this sequence
Josh- asking questions. lots of them. maybe you could do it, but I literally cannot formulate a real read based off /questions/ alone. maaybe policy town, since these questions are ones that proobably needed to be asked.
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This is WD's reads post specifically the josh read which is really fucking weird compared to the other reads imo.
Then josh's next post read kinda like he is mad at something which came right after the wd's read post
lol "policy town"
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Then jalmont suddenly shoots wd and then josh suddenly subs out without giving which makes me think josh rage subbed because his scum teammate got shot from posting really bad content that also points him in a non positive light.
 
Aura Guardian said:
First, I'd like to re-iterate my distrust of Yeti and Sam.

Gonna work on a review of people who talked TO winter-delta, but for now, here's an iso for any possible allies:
25 posts, let's go.
1-2: Confirm, remove living winners
3) Anti Empoof, Pro Haruno, ??? on Asek
4) anti-randing the shots
5) townreads Flyhn, Josh, Haruno, and me. Scumreads Yeti and FH. Neutral on Hitmonleet, Asek, Twin, Moody, DBW, DLE, Jalmont, US
6) Adds FCC as townread
7) got stuff to do-type post
8-9) ISOs US, and analyzes Yeti a bit, too; these are posts 707 and 708 and I find them to be VERY notable now.
He points out multiple scummy things US had done up to then, then uses a very recent slightly towny thing as an excuse to townlean US. Says Yeti had been helpful, but like Sam, was pressuring idlers, then reads Yeti as scummy for that. Also calls Former Hope a vocal town. (also that tinfoil hat with Hitmonleet and Former Hope)
10) Says that he'd shoot Jalmont, Former Hope, Moody, or me. Jalmont and Moody for allegedly nothing, Former Hope for suspicious, and me for hey I'd listen.
11) tries to throw some shade on Hitmonleet?
12) brings up FH-Josh WIFOM
13) some mildly anti-FH stuff
14) more argument with FH, and is pro-Yeti
15) sorta maybe defends self against Twin? Not much substance. Rebounds the question though.
16) suggests shooting DBW and Moody.
17) Reduce deadlines
18-19) Casts shade on former hope while trying to draw the gunholder's attention
20) Tries to get the gunholder to reveal who they're planning to shoot
21) Wants to shoot US for insight on Yeti, but also gives an atrocious reason for the idlers
22) ??? on criticism on that idlers all village thing.
23) Groups himself with Fort and Moody and the two idlers who turned up village
24) Deflective post, called out by Twin
25) Townreads Flyhn, Scumreads Former Hope, US, Yeti, fort colorcastle, and myself, policy towns Josh, towns hitmonleet, scums DLE and Moody for idling.

So, what do we get?
Strong links to me, Yeti, an UncleSam.
Groups self with MoodyCloud and Fort Colorcastle
Flip-floppy on Former Hope, Fort Colorcastle, and MoodyCloud.
??? out of nowheree on DLE, given the rest of it.

I will assume for this that he was trying to spread his allies out in his reads, to minimize what we can glean from that. Given my prior reads however, this means I will ALSO assume he was bussing.

Scumteam based on this:
UncleSam (bussing, strong link, reads him towny despite scummy stuff and reads Yeti as scummy for the inverse reason, and my prior reads)
Yeti (possibly, bussing, and that massive link between Her and US already, also my prior reads)
at least one of: Former Hope, MoodyCloud, Fort Colorcastle (trying to point the gunbearer at two of them them, possibly bussing, and that post grouping himself with Moody and Fort.)
One of: Thetwinmasters, Asek, Hitmonleet, Da Letter El (from those neutral reads and only cursory mentions of them after)
Josh (that policy town and from the spread)
Maybe a second from that first list if it's not Moody and not from the second.

But at this point I suggest
shoot: UncleSam, Yeti, and rand from FH, Moody, FCC.
pay close attention to: Twin, Asek, leet, DLE
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Why do you put Josh in your scumteam but not in your people to shoot.
 
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