There is definitely benefit in shitting on peoples town reads lol. If you're dumb and believe in the whole "lock town" from a non innocent child or a dead/revealed alignment cop clearing you, you don't have shit. Otherwise it's best to just assume everyone is neutral. We all know every nig is going to claim vanillager and you can't possibly kill off all the vanillager claims. So from my pov there's still no reason to actively scum hunt.
There is no "useful" discussion day 1 in a sort of open set up like this ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERYONE IS ACTIVELY DISCOURAGING FIGURING OUT WHAT SET UP WE'RE ON! Most/all posts by people are full of hot air and pretty much doesn't AI anyone unless someone does something batshit retarded that would implicate them
I think Josh was talking about shitting on your own townread which is a blatent contradiction but not outside King's play from either alignment in my experience.