NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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Yeah I got caught in wifom about Jalmont and Hitmonleet fair enough to suspect me for it

Jalmont I think didn't make sense as scum because he could've easily taken advantage of people associating him being passive with him being town, he probably felt that he needed to get towncred and cast shade on veteran town. Could point towards the scumteam having started with Jalmont+newer players but that's a bit of a stretch.
Hitmonleet I shouldn't have given a free pass for the eod dodging
 
Also ftr yes knights I would publicly teach my partner how to legacy as any alignment. In his case I would have advocated for more cat pictures but I still appreciate what he ended up doing anyways
 
hey btw Hitmonleet

just personally, I'll always advocate against selfing. lots of people will conditionally do it as scum to limit discussion and whatnot but I advise against it. if you're being run up or a lynch is inevitable that's your time to stir shit up and mess with people. selfing isn't objectively wrong but it's subjectively wrong (I'm the subject!). we can talk more in post if you want.
 
Josh said:
rn my lynchpool is {ligjtwolf, yeti, fcc, id, pancake, knights}

obviously there's only 2 scum left so at best that's 1/3 scum.

my particular lynch order rn is basically


fcc
yeti
-gap-
light
-gap-
id
pancake
knights

id and pancake are never partners. other than that I think it's pretty interchangeable from memory. knights is worse with poof being ic.
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So now that we're here I need people to pull up quotes of interactions with jalmont+hitmonleet that blazade had that would be considered scummy. From what I remember Blazade was questioning jalmont a lot of D1 and was pushing on hitmonleet.

Like yes, blazade was my first scum read so I get it but i think this game has evolved past him being presenceless and there's enough there to just call him town
 
knights + yeti scumteam baby

gonna sort some shit out. got work in 20 mins so expect content tonight when i think u all sleep

most noticably i wanna read into jalmont
 
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I might have a clue but what's your reasoning on hawkie?
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Empoof

Blazade has been really easy to push. Yes been away, no one has really bothered to defend him. Makes him an easy target supported by wagonomics. Hawkie also fits the wagonomics. I'm concerned that he's been mostly universally town read since early on day 1 and hasn't been subject to any kind of significant pressure. In particular, the only person whose even pushed the idea of null!hawkie is yeti which is especially concerning in the event she's scum as there's no doubt she's willing to set up situations where scum flips make her look more towny.
 
Empoof said:
So now that we're here I need people to pull up quotes of interactions with jalmont+hitmonleet that blazade had that would be considered scummy. From what I remember Blazade was questioning jalmont a lot of D1 and was pushing on hitmonleet.

Like yes, blazade was my first scum read so I get it but i think this game has evolved past him being presenceless and there's enough there to just call him town
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I didn't like how easily he sheeped me onto king. the first time when I have an ultimatum, ok, the second time when I'm clearly having a mental fart and waffling back and forth eh. I didn't love how him literally sheeping me on request no questions asked saved leet.
 
My towns right now in no order look something like

Josh
Moody
Hawkie
Blazade
Knights

second tier being
Asek
Yeti
Texas

Part of me thinks Fort doesn't push on me as scum because it's actual suicide but I also think I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Could be wrong about knights I guess, would be a good person to try and look at interactions with the flips
 
tex has said some weird ass shit and i was beginning to form a sr i would of pushed today if leet flipped town but w. the scum flip thered have to be some grade a bussing shit going on there

so hes back up to strong tr
 
Asek said:
tex has said some weird ass shit and i was beginning to form a sr i would of pushed today if leet flipped town but w. the scum flip thered have to be some grade a bussing shit going on there

so hes back up to strong tr
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Could you give a top town tierlist in whatever way you're most comfortable with?
 
1. Hawkie
3. Blazade->Lightwolf
5. KnightsofCydonia
7. Paperblade->Pancake
9. Former Hope->Ironic Double
10. MoodyCloud
12. Asek
13. Texas Cloverleaf
14. Flyhn->Ullar->Yeti
15. Aubisio->Da Letter El->Fort Colorcastle
16. Josh
17. shubaka17->Empoof

Sort these please. Remove yourself and me

Like as long as we don't fuck up we're doing extremely well right now
 
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