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NOC The Mafia Invitational (Game Thread) [D2 Deadline: Friday, March 2nd, 6 PM EST]

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Metal Sonic said:
No dude, you literally went “would lynch tomorrow” on a couple of people, don’t lie, it’s really not hard to quote from the previous page... you don’t want to go into this territory which can be easily verified... it makes you look dumb despite your efforts to sound smarter than me...

Do you really want to continue with the analogy?

Someone not sucking up to me is a misplay because doing so would counter Champion Metal Sonic who is in my opinion one very broken champion in the game. Misplaying is NOT griefing or playing against their wincon, it’s just a mistake. But it’s a mistake that will disadvantage them or, in severe cases, cost them the game. Got it?
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Fuck you I play HotS. As long as you got your ego it's pointless to discuss what strawman you committed.

In any case I said would lynch tomorrow it was with a condition not being met today, by players I was giving leeway today. And the fact I did say that to some does not mean as you put it "would lynch anyone today or tomorrow" which us blatantly misrepresenting my argument.
 
LightWolf said:
Asek has twice engaged in furthering a selfproposed route of thinking(lynching koc, stoping the fruit project) by including non arguments(whating at a koc post taken out of context when he should have been easily aware of the context based on all the quoted koc posts) or simply nonsensical ones like his argument against the fruit case. This is enough to lead me to a pattern of asek valuing quantity over the quality of his arguments. I personally believe a villager would not go for such arguments as they would either be sure enough with their better arguments or be doubtful of their own certainty on the matters to throw in such meh arguments to try and overpush on something they themselves doubt.
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Okay, noted, see , we are getting somewhere

I’ll pay more attention to asek and also relook over 388 later and see if I can see what you’re seeing, or even more. Yeah; the argument against the fruit case is admittedly worse objectively than my argument against the fruit case, but I have to admit that I missed that because I was biased towards asek cos he’s reaching the end conclusion as I am.

I want to see aseks comments on your read before I can make a conclusion
 
LightWolf said:
Fuck you I play HotS. As long as you got your ego it's pointless to discuss what strawman you committed.

In any case I said would lynch tomorrow it was with a condition not being met today, by players I was giving leeway today. And the fact I did say that to some does not mean as you put it "would lynch anyone today or tomorrow" which us blatantly misrepresenting my argument.
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yes I know that I have basic reading comprehension skills I’m just trying to summarize a 2000 word post into a single sentence because of my physical posting restrictions so PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I LEAVE SOME DETAILS OUT??

my point is that it was pretty difficult to respond to your reads list simply because most of the reads tend to convey a very neutral or abstain-type stance on literally everyone. yes, I can see the nuances and infer who you’re townreading or scumreading more, but for the amount of words you put it it’s actually unusually and ironically difficult to comment or refute or do much with that list of reads.
 
I sort of feel like scum lightwolf fucks off after making his wall post, however everything he's posted after has been defending himself from MS which I don't think is terribly alignment indicative because he's not elaborating on his reads or doing anything that requires... protown effort, I guess? Not sure of a good phrase here, but most of what LW is doing is saying "No you're wrong" without really explaining more and it mostly feels like a dick measuring contest. Like

LightWolf do you think it's scummy that MS is misrepresenting your post? Like in MS's defense I agree that massive wallposts suck and I usually skim them, but specifically the tldr and things that you're arguing with him about.
 
All that you had to change in the summary was instead of me being willing to lynch anyone, was me being willing to lynch most. Exactly because some people may seek out summaries do I want them to be correct and not hyperboles.

And yes you finally did say what my big post is, it's not meant to be anything more than my reactions to stuff I'd have posted about if I was here. The important part is people read their own paragraphs(cough there is a question aimed at you in yours, answer it cough) and check out the posts I linked be it with or withiut the context I provide.

That being said after #400 that was all written on phone, and I have been typing it up to you on my huawei ever since.
 
You mean this?
“Josh is probably scum? PROBABLY? Not to mention your only meaningful opinion is on Josh there, when there is 2 more scum(there be 3 right?). What is up with all that?”

I thought it was rhetorical

Bro, as much as I think josh is most likely to be scum, there is a nonzero possibility that he is town. Like dude, if anybody ever has a 10000% sure scumread on day 1, barring daycops or niche scenarios, something must be very wrong

That said, since I do think he’s the most likely to be scum, he is therefore the most optimal lynch from my pov today. This is what I’ve been pushing the whole time! Like, if I spammed “josh is 100% scum I am 100% sure”, that would be retarded, nobody would buy that
 
Paperblade said:
I sort of feel like scum lightwolf fucks off after making his wall post, however everything he's posted after has been defending himself from MS which I don't think is terribly alignment indicative because he's not elaborating on his reads or doing anything that requires... protown effort, I guess? Not sure of a good phrase here, but most of what LW is doing is saying "No you're wrong" without really explaining more and it mostly feels like a dick measuring contest. Like

LightWolf do you think it's scummy that MS is misrepresenting your post? Like in MS's defense I agree that massive wallposts suck and I usually skim them, but specifically the tldr and things that you're arguing with him about.
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Did you skip the part where MS asked me to elaborate on my asek argument and I did just that? What would prompt me to elaborate on my reads if not people asking me to do so? Dududu posted my readlist, with conclusions and stances on today's lynches as they currently stand from my pov, clearly it's time to go over my big post and do an unprompted even more wordy expansion on every single read I got!

Yeah that sounds stupid and that you are trying to construct a scumtell out of that smells scummy.

As for the misrepresentation bit, yeah misrepresentation can be scummy, I have used it as scum myself because people tend to accept statements that are incorrect as long as they somewhat fill the hole in their memories. Whether I feel like that makes ms scum remains to be seen.
 
Also, regarding 3 scum and whatever

I haven’t caught the 3 scum yet, so I’m not going to pretend I have? Like. Bro. I am not going to commit to reads that I in good faith believe that have a higher possibllility than RNG to be wrong . That’s against policy
 
Metal Sonic said:
Also, regarding 3 scum and whatever

I haven’t caught the 3 scum yet, so I’m not going to pretend I have? Like. Bro. I am not going to commit to reads that I in good faith believe that have a higher possibllility than RNG to be wrong . That’s against policy
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My problem is you are pushing an unpopular option that people keep shruging off and havent made any reasonable attempts at hunting for more. If wcumhunting to you is sitting idly by while they all bask in the warm light of not being pressured I can't agree with such a play.
 
LightWolf said:
My problem is you are pushing an unpopular option that people keep shruging off and havent made any reasonable attempts at hunting for more. If wcumhunting to you is sitting idly by while they all bask in the warm light of not being pressured I can't agree with such a play.
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Well then this is a policy thing already. My policy is that since we can only max lynch one scum a day, we should hunt one scum a day, don’t jump the gun, there’s always time and information re evaluate after the flip

I think trying finding all 3 scum on day 1 is stupid cos what if the day’s lynch is wrong? What if scumread is wrong? Keep on changing reads? I find it stupid
 
LightWolf said:
Did you skip the part where MS asked me to elaborate on my asek argument and I did just that? What would prompt me to elaborate on my reads if not people asking me to do so? Dududu posted my readlist, with conclusions and stances on today's lynches as they currently stand from my pov, clearly it's time to go over my big post and do an unprompted even more wordy expansion on every single read I got!

Yeah that sounds stupid and that you are trying to construct a scumtell out of that smells scummy.

As for the misrepresentation bit, yeah misrepresentation can be scummy, I have used it as scum myself because people tend to accept statements that are incorrect as long as they somewhat fill the hole in their memories. Whether I feel like that makes ms scum remains to be seen.
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I actually forgot to include that in my post lmao

The hanging "Like" was supposed to follow up with saying the asek elaboration was good but I want more

my b
 
Paperblade said:
I actually forgot to include that in my post lmao

The hanging "Like" was supposed to follow up with saying the asek elaboration was good but I want more

my b
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Then asketh and you recieveth, but ask specifics not to do them, and I want to hear why you wanna know those.

Also lets not downplay accusatory tone of your post. Also duh I am arguing with MS, he the only person around to argue with, except mahbe dle, but he posted something not remotely relevant to me.
 
Metal Sonic said:
Well then this is a policy thing already. My policy is that since we can only max lynch one scum a day, we should hunt one scum a day, don’t jump the gun, there’s always time and information re evaluate after the flip

I think trying finding all 3 scum on day 1 is stupid cos what if the day’s lynch is wrong? What if scumread is wrong? Keep on changing reads? I find it stupid
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Never said to stop suspecting Josh, I specifically said to end all your posts with a link to your big reasonings against josh post, but make your posts inquiring into others as possible suspects or brings something new josh related to the table. There are other scum, and if Josh gets lynched and is scum, you dead, and if you dead you can't look for other scum. So while grilling Josh I want you to diversify and talk about other shit like the asek shit we did, that was the good shit.... shit.
 
I guess since you already did writeups on all the players, it'd be good to have a rough idea of where they rank on town to scum (I think your summary post was just playerlist order?)

My suspicion mostly comes from remembering matrix NOC where you made like one post every 24 hours which is easy to fake and people let you slide fsr, and I was thinking out loud if you engaging after is a townie sign
 
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