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NOC The Mafia Invitational (Game Thread) [D2 Deadline: Friday, March 2nd, 6 PM EST]

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Paperblade said:
With walls you have all the time in the world to carefully construct a post, getting the wording and thoughts in order and make sure there's no obvious mistakes. Interacting with people in real time like LW did with you, you have to come up with stuff on the fly which makes it a lot more difficult to keep your story straight and not slip up
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Interesting perspective, never saw it that way. Ok. Fair.
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
Walls are easy to fake if you write them in advance. On the spot, not as much.
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To be clear on my position I agree with this

If you are writing huge walls as part of your discussion with the thread that generally shows a higher level of engagement than posting a wall every like 10 hours and not engaging with people much otherwise

since I'm already highlighting you: wrt twin I might be biased because most of my experience with him is playing dota/OC which are both different from NOC, but I do think the sort of aggression and getting in people's faces is still the same? From what I recall with him in NOC he jumps onto other wagons to apply pressure and see how people react
 
Metal Sonic said:
Ok, real talk, let’s assume I’m wrong and you are town for a moment

Can you explain your DLE, FH, and ttm read
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My issue now is I townread pretty much everyone posting. Empoof, LW, and Paper go under the generic "obvtown" category. It is harder after that; FH hasn't done anything (as in, I can't remember 1 of his posts). Twin did a couple weak popins and dipped making him the least townie by far; if you're scum in a game where everyone is obvtowning it gets a lot harder. I would think he's capable of more than this as either alignment, but I townread every player more than him so that's where he ends up. DLE hasn't done anything AI, if he's town he's capable of obvtowning and not getting lynched. Foro now, he has done nothing to warrant a townread
 
Paperblade said:
To be clear on my position I agree with this

If you are writing huge walls as part of your discussion with the thread that generally shows a higher level of engagement than posting a wall every like 10 hours and not engaging with people much otherwise

since I'm already highlighting you: wrt twin I might be biased because most of my experience with him is playing dota/OC which are both different from NOC, but I do think the sort of aggression and getting in people's faces is still the same? From what I recall with him in NOC he jumps onto other wagons to apply pressure and see how people react
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Yeah. And with the lack of thought process it's easy to mislynch that. But there isn't any of it here and no indication that something has happened to cause a change in style.
 
I don’t recommend a twin lynch d1 solely because he’s shit in all the games I’ve seen him in and so it’s NAI but everyone seems town and IF, I’m saying IF, I somehow wrong about josh or reverse my read, then , I have no scumreads, and even more useless than what you’re accusing me of being now
 
Twin is a weird wagon right now. Like he's actively avoiding engaging and giving his thoughts and a lot of people seem to support him. So on one hand I question if twin = scum actually makes this little effort. But on the other, I feel like the wagon is mostly pure so maybe the scum team have just given up on him? This is a meta read I guess, and I do scum read twin in a vacuum because of our earlier interaction. But a lot of the behavior and reactions make me think he is going to flip town
 
Re: lightwolfs stuff. There's some of it I can get behind as towny and I do have a light tr of them. But a lot of the last few pages of them has just been logical and rational extrapolations which I frankly don't see as AI as it's easy for either alignment to do. Thus I think it's silly to town read him for those posts alone like some seem to be doing
 
We need more activity. (he said as he was waiting for his phone to charge before Pokemon Go runs out of Dratinis)

I can do a basic RVS or I can bring up one or two game-relevant points of discussion. Which would y'all prefer?
 
we are not doing RQS jesus fuck

relevant point of discussion: are you a fruit vendor?

relevant point of discussion: reads list rn with reasons that aren't "oh he's town but could be scum"
 
Hey will be out of town.

LightWolf feels a lot more engaged and focused than he did in the last game I lost to him in. Even though his posts are mostly logic/mechanical based there's a bite to them I would say wasn't there in that game.

I had walrein way down at the bottom because he hadn't posted yet and A.) his scum tell is usually post count and B.) I like fucking with walrein. It wasn't a real scum read just part of my shitposting. From what I remember about walrein his reads and interactions felt good in the thread which is why I placed him so high after he actually entered but I'm getting the feeling he's coasting right now which concerns me. Still believe he's a player who will showcase he's scum later in the game. I'm actually going to read the game where he rolled scum on MU to check if he plays like me - good tone that he can keep up but lack of stronger solving powers leading to low posting.

Josh on MU the day can end with the votecount we have now but we actually get a lynch vs. needing all 7 votes. So instead of having like a 5-4 wagon with the potatoes afking we need 7 votes which is actually a lot.

atm I'd still lynch twin because he's posting so infrequently and substanceless. He's not showing a townie mindset and if his play has indeed evolved to this type of style then he should at least get punished for it. In the vampire game we played he was way more active and attentive, bouncing ideas off of me and others to gauge reactions and figure things out. His reads are reads that everyone under the sun could have. Also think that the people he pushed on in KoC and Formal Hope responded at least semidecently to his claims.

Won't lie though KoC is giving me heeby jeebies right now which is leaving me more concerned about the twin lynch.
 
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