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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

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LightWolf said:
Texas was obtuse as fuck about his Hitmon read, refusing to any way or form expand on it, even claim it was meta read. He just asked people to trust him. It is obvious that at some level it was specifically done to divert attention to hitmon as a mason partner for him. At the time hitmon had barely posted and his read could have been only surface level, and you putting so much stock into it is silly rather than making your own reads that you could actually justify. I mean it's not like Texas himself fell into a trap of repeating someone else's idea(Hawkie's) and ended up mislynching due to that.
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rest assured my read is not 100% copy paste from Texas as you are wrongly implying
 
MoodyCloud said:
yeah they do, except when Asek flipping scum leads to you pushing the guy who said would most likely be town in the event of such a flip
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I made a massive post explaining that one already at the start of this whole debacle, I was pressuring Hitmon in case he turned out not to be a mason removing my inhibitions of seriously lynching him, I wasn't gonna fucking spell that out in the open or else scum would act based on it, I needed it to be clean.
 
LightWolf said:
Is this serious, I want this claim to come from you as a serious statement because I can't tell if this is sarcasm asking for death. Also true please explain mason thought processes and action timeline to prove it.
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I am always completely and utterly serious, obviously. I don't see why I should make such a deep description to someone so obviously mafia. If you want proof, look at how Texas had me as 100% town, despite making little to no explanation of the fact, and compare it to, say, his Percival performance in Death Note. Look at how implicitly I had faith in Yeti's reads today. Look at how much she trusted Texas' "meta read".

Frankly I'm sad it took you this long to approach such a conclusion.
 
Hitmonleet said:
I am always completely and utterly serious, obviously. I don't see why I should make such a deep description to someone so obviously mafia. If you want proof, look at how Texas had me as 100% town, despite making little to no explanation of the fact, and compare it to, say, his Percival performance in Death Note. Look at how implicitly I had faith in Yeti's reads today. Look at how much she trusted Texas' "meta read".

Frankly I'm sad it took you this long to approach such a conclusion.
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If I ask pretty please? I'm interested in seeing you show not just tell.
 
LightWolf said:
Asek from the pool, if asek is town I'd look at Hitmon, as both of them have the previously explained uncannuy ability to state at the end of previous days that the person getting mislynched is a mislynch. Oh sure limtied sample size so a town can easily pull it off too, but specifically a scum WANTS to pull it off and one at least will pull it off. And if isn't asek, it's gotta be Hitmon, though day 2 was so short some people didn't comment at all on the lynch in any meaningful capacity. If neither is scum I'd look at Yeti, but we can't mislynch twice.

If Asek does flip scum, then DLE or AG(yeah cop out answer I know). I'd not want to lock myself into either from that pool, for outside of the pool I'd much rather look at Moody, but AG and DLE I have qualms with day 2, that will greatly be contextualised by the finishing of day 3. I'd put Knights into that group as well, though that's mostly in that day 2 was too short for me to clear up if my Knights suspicions from day 1 were reasonable or just an after effect of reading too much into last game. Or the reverse and not reading into him enough after.
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LightWolf said:
His day 2 he involved himself with current ongoings barely. I'd forgive him since he was actively posting ISOs during the day, but inbetween those his first one was accidentally on MS (and me which was pointless) and he instantly voted him only based on an ISO in ISOlation from the rest of the thread which he gave up on just reading normally. This doesn't sit well with me and as I said, felt like instead of looking for scum he went isoing for someone to vote. The along side isos he posted pointless quips that served only to remind people he ain't afk, he reading, even epik has done more and acknowledged at least ongoing stuff while reading.

Day 3 he finished the isos and instantly jumped to defend Hitmon from my massive post he knew was written pre Texas flip. This felt unnatural as he jumped at the chance to be the first to point out that Hitmon may be mason most of us were thinking already. I don't recall much meaningful from him after. Then day 4 he starts with a ISO of me vs hitmon and turns on hitmon completely and can be observed seemingly tracing my steps during the day echoing my thoughts. Food for thought, I'd have told him as a scum buddy to sock it. As in put one in his mouth, a sock.
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^(on AG)

LightWolf said:
You are a joke, I was coming home from work. You literally said nothing damning because you refuse to even discuss the possibility that Asek and Hitmon were bussing. What TRs of Leet and Yeti did I pressure when I spent all of day 3 questioning either Hitmon or Asek. Or is Hitmon his own TR?

Again you are not even acknowledging what I posted on Hitmon. If I am scum, address my points against hitmon, because I'm obviously lying then. Luckily for you not only is my latest attempt at the top of the page here, the previous 2-3 pages should contain two posts where I directly quote all my hitmon stuff from day 3.

Come back to me when you have an argument and are not trying to sweep me under AG's own scummy rug.
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LightWolf said:
Vote Hitmonleet
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Only reason I posted how I thought leet was mason way back was because, yeah, Texas with info is as easy to read as a large-print book. And my vote on former is because next in my poe, and those drop-offs that put him there.
 
Hitmonleet said:
I am always completely and utterly serious, obviously. I don't see why I should make such a deep description to someone so obviously mafia. If you want proof, look at how Texas had me as 100% town, despite making little to no explanation of the fact, and compare it to, say, his Percival performance in Death Note. Look at how implicitly I had faith in Yeti's reads today. Look at how much she trusted Texas' "meta read".

Frankly I'm sad it took you this long to approach such a conclusion.
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I have been pushing for this conclusion since day 3, I specifically waited till at least most people okayed the mason claim plan, especially including you before I went on my rant and even in that rant I specifically called out the possibilty to stop wasting my time if you are mason.

Now stop being obtuse and explain the events and present the masonry proof of thoughts shared between you three. They are dead, you claimed, all you are doing is not convincing me to stop pushing you which if you are mason I want to start this second because fuck wasting anymore time coercing this out of you
 
Hitmonleet said:
I am always completely and utterly serious, obviously. I don't see why I should make such a deep description to someone so obviously mafia. If you want proof, look at how Texas had me as 100% town, despite making little to no explanation of the fact, and compare it to, say, his Percival performance in Death Note. Look at how implicitly I had faith in Yeti's reads today. Look at how much she trusted Texas' "meta read".

Frankly I'm sad it took you this long to approach such a conclusion.
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show us that secret handshake then
 
Former Hope said:
Leet, details. Who were original masons, why was the 3rd recruited
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Texas and I, and we recruited Yeti because she was a common, well-playing poster who we thought was most likely town.

KnightsofCydonia said:
If I ask pretty please? I'm interested in seeing you show not just tell.
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D1 I was mostly good with just following Texas at first, as I still needed to actually figure things out, personally. After, Yeti and I discussed things together, resulting in Yeti's turnaround and her feelings on LW D3. Then Yeti died and I got annoyed and burnt out.
 
Let me repeat. I CAN'T MAKE SURE HITMON IS KILLABLE BY SCUM, IF I DON'T IMPLY THAT AFTER AN ASEK SCUMFLIP I'D READ HIM TOWN. If I said I'd keep pushing him scum could indeed keep him around as an useful mislynch, I had to make sure to both stock up on ammo if my suspicions proved correct(and yeti flipping mason did lead me closer to that) and to lead scum towards eleminating hitmon to clear him up for me.
 
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