NOC Greek Mythology Mafia [GAME OVER: SCUM WIN]

ItzViper482 said:
I find it weird how hitmonleet / former hope / me / 3p1k have all brought up that what apricity did earlier was fairly scummy yet 3p1k has not been questioned yet
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I would like to hear thoughts on this from people

for reference:
3P1K said:
Re-Apricity: Idt lynchhopping in and of itself is scummy ED1 and beyond that i dont think there is much of a case here. Kinda null fmpov but it was a slot that seemed relevant enough that it needed to be mentioned. Need to read into the whole FH vs Apricity thing a bit more and i'll get back to ya.
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i have not seen any1 say anything to him about this yet many got on others for saying basically the same thing
 
Former Hope said:
How does one scumread someone who has basically done the bare minimum. idk


Anyways, I stand by what I said. A lot of Apricity posts have read to me as noob scum (ie asking to start a wagon on blazade). But they have done so much of that, it's left me at this juncture where I feel like if apricity was actually scum he'd be more careful and wouldn't do something like, well, asking for a wagon.
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I'm not entirely certain how one gets the "Mafia Champion" thing below their name but this entire post seems... weird. I don't think apricity would be noob scum based on the fact they seem to have enough experience to be warranted a "Mafia Champion" though idk how that is distributed so this could be moot.

Former Hope said:
How does one scumread someone who has basically done the bare minimum. idk
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This seems like a weird thing to say given how easy it is to SR somebody who hasn't contributed all that much.

It's hard to say that FH has been super passive given that they've brought something to the table but I can see why people would think this way. FH has had a period of silence which was broken by... a sad blob emote... but overall there isn't anything super damning for me to actively think FH is scummy. Rn I suspect basically everybody for one small reason or another and I'm not willing to pass judgment on them via the vote until there's more concrete stuff that says they may be scum. If I didn't have a read then I would to see the reaction but I'm not budging.
 
Empoof said:
Okay, I'm guessing you've played with viperz a lot to get that read
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not mafia but i've had a lot of interaction with him over the past half year. having a personal friendship with someone is much more helpful in reading someone than playing in a game with them before, and i have seen viper lie and i have seen him manuever strategically in survivor

i mean honestly i can explain a bit of it

it's two main things right now and there's a third that i might share
1. his priority is his positioning in the game rather than finding scum. his posts reek of someone preoccupied with seeming busy but not actually doing anything: he's not digging he is posturing. i think the thing that pinged me the most on this is where he said that he was going to keep his vote on me for pressure until i answered leet's questions even though I think that it is clear that if there was even a cursory attempt to understand the conversation between me and leet that there was nothing left to say. it is fine to not read the thread but i think when people don't read the thread and then pretend to have done so and say that they are "keeping an eye on developments" it is posturing
ItzViper482 said:
oh this looks fun can i join in. I want to be cool and meme with the cool kids who are cool

please dismiss this post

in reality tho just wanted to say i am here, i am watching, and i am formulating my reads -_-

also keeping vote on apricity still, waiting for him to answer leet
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in addition this unvote just gives me fucking hives. viper doesn't shy away from fights and if he were town clearly there is something unresolved on his read on me but unvoting me and not putting a vote back on is really ??? if he were town and he thought i was scum we would be fighting right now
ItzViper482 said:
may go more in depth later, lazy right now tho

apricity - I agree with dave that his aggressiveness leans town, him vs fh and caffeine shows where he was aggressive and I think the points he has brought up are solid. STILL dont see where he replied to leet but idt thats a reason to keep my vote on him tbh unvote: apricity (please some1 tell me where he replied tho, it will make me feel much better about this slot lmao)
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and then to come back on later and say to you that he is town reading me?? no. This might be my biggest gripe with viper. he is not reading people genuinely. let's assume for a second that he is town reading me
ItzViper482 said:
will point out stuff on apricity later when i have time, hold me accountable to this (yes, i just shamelessly stole from apricitys playbook, gg)
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explain this. he clearly has time, if he is townreading me then this should take no time at all. but instead he wants to stall?
2. the second tell i have on viper is that he genuinely sounds nervous to me. this is a tonal thing i don't have an explanation for it.
ItzViper482 said:
oh this looks fun can i join in. I want to be cool and meme with the cool kids who are cool

please dismiss this post

in reality tho just wanted to say i am here, i am watching, and i am formulating my reads -_-

also keeping vote on apricity still, waiting for him to answer leet
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and basically all of the posts where he was memeing earlier in the thread just felt super forced and i think that he is trying to build social capital instead of trying to play mafia
ItzViper482 said:
what has happened to your hope mr former hope

is it gone because you know town will CRUSH your mafia scum behind
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i don't know. tonally something is just wrong here. it is like he is trying too hard to be funny and i know viper and i think if he were town he would've wanted to get on with the game, i mean there has been stuff happening even as early as the time of this post
3. this unvote gives me hives, viper is no
 
oops i hit send early.

unvoting gives me hives because to me it says that viper is shying away from fights and instead content to cheerlead from the sidelines and i hate that

ok any questions

vote viper
 
ItzViper482 said:
hal has never played a game of mafia with me
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ItzViper482 said:
e. hit send 2 early on that one*

he has only ever seen me play survivor
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i am going to guess that you only realized after you hit send on the first message that i was gonig to fucking eviscerate you for saying it, and chose to pretend that you hit send too early?

i've hit send early a number of times but it's never been at a natural conclusion of a thought
 
apricity said:
in addition this unvote just gives me fucking hives. viper doesn't shy away from fights and if he were town clearly there is something unresolved on his read on me but unvoting me and not putting a vote back on is really ??? if he were town and he thought i was scum we would be fighting right now
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I dont think you are scum therefore i do not want to fight you. I have stated that i do not think you are scum

also when have i been a person who enjoys fights

apricity said:
1. his priority is his positioning in the game rather than finding scum. his posts reek of someone preoccupied with seeming busy but not actually doing anything: he's not digging he is posturing. i think the thing that pinged me the most on this is where he said that he was going to keep his vote on me for pressure until i answered leet's questions even though I think that it is clear that if there was even a cursory attempt to understand the conversation between me and leet that there was nothing left to say. it is fine to not read the thread but i think when people don't read the thread and then pretend to have done so and say that they are "keeping an eye on developments" it is posturing
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sure ill give you this one, i did mess up with reading the you vs leet thing.

apricity said:
and then to come back on later and say to you that he is town reading me?? no. This might be my biggest gripe with viper. he is not reading people genuinely. let's assume for a second that he is town reading me

explain this. he clearly has time, if he is townreading me then this should take no time at all. but instead he wants to stall?
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i was planning on practicing for grand slam for a bit and taking time away from this but i guess i cant yet.
why in every game we play do you accuse me of not having a life outside of this game
i will get to why i town read you later like i said but i feel like replying to this post is more important rn

apricity said:
2. the second tell i have on viper is that he genuinely sounds nervous to me. this is a tonal thing i don't have an explanation for it.

and basically all of the posts where he was memeing earlier in the thread just felt super forced and i think that he is trying to build social capital instead of trying to play mafia

i don't know. tonally something is just wrong here. it is like he is trying too hard to be funny and i know viper and i think if he were town he would've wanted to get on with the game, i mean there has been stuff happening even as early as the time of this post
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ive had many mafia games i have played ruined by the fact that i did not enter well as town and got voted out. did not want this to happen this game. i think this is a perfectly fine reason to possibly sound more nervous

i wouldnt say the content of the memes were forced, maybe their placement? like i said i wanted to enter well so using humor at the begining and following suit so that i wouldnt get misslynched later sounded like a fine idea.

i honestly do want to get on with the game, but i dont want to be the one to push that for selfish reason. im trying to be honest here.

apricity said:
i am going to guess that you only realized after you hit send on the first message that i was gonig to fucking eviscerate you for saying it, and chose to pretend that you hit send too early?

i've hit send early a number of times but it's never been at a natural conclusion of a thought
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why in every game that we play you accuse me of bullshit like this, you are really looking for a reason to scum read me lmao

ive already said earlier in this post that i was practicing for slam. this led me to hit send early

lmk if i didnt reply to smth u said
 
ItzViper482 said:
i was planning on practicing for grand slam for a bit and taking time away from this but i guess i cant yet.
why in every game we play do you accuse me of not having a life outside of this game
i will get to why i town read you later like i said but i feel like replying to this post is more important rn
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leet literally only asked you for a quote, why is providing a townie quote from someone you think is townie time consuming? unless you are not reading them as town at all
 
ItzViper482 said:
sure ill give you this one, i did mess up with reading the you vs leet thing.
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when did you realize that you messed up reading me vs leet? because since you have forgotten what you have been pretending to think this game, i will remind you.
ItzViper482 said:
also keeping vote on apricity still, waiting for him to answer leet
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here you messed up reading me vs leet, but did not realize it
ItzViper482 said:
STILL dont see where he replied to leet but idt thats a reason to keep my vote on him tbh unvote: apricity (please some1 tell me where he replied tho, it will make me feel much better about this slot lmao)
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here you unvoted me despite messing up reading me vs leet, but STILL did not realize it

and now you say that you realize that you made a mistake? YOU ARE LYING!
 
"i then told you that you messed up reading me vs leet, and you did not realize it "

when you told me this i took it that you did reply to leet and i was still just blind, i kept this view when i made the post where i unvoted you still trying to see what i missed.

"when did you realize that you messed up reading me vs leet? "

when you made your post explaining why you scumread me
 
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