NOC Greek Mythology Mafia [GAME OVER: SCUM WIN]

Josh said:
omg hi texy my message didnt go through

and caffeine is that OM room
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How dare you.
Hitmonleet said:
Alright screw this I'm angry, I have a headache, and I'd like to not die D0 for once.

Unvote Vote ItzViper482

Out of you and former, you're incredibly more suspicious, and considering one of your arguments is literally just "Don't lynch me until tomorrow kthx" with no explanation, that's annoying and sus af.
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I should note that this shifts the majority off Leet who had 3 votes to Viper's 2. Idk if this is plurality because I cannot be arsed to check rn but this is worth noting.
Empoof said:
Vote Asek

here take a breather don't trip. Drinking water helps with headaches
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This... moves it off him completely. Not sure what the thought process behind this vote is. Not finding it particularly suspicious, just want an explanation.
Josh said:
3 scum in {Asek, Texas, Leet, Caffeine, Moody, FH, Blazade, Jordan}
if ur town in there start being town!
asek is currently winning the race
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I have had surgery to transform my body into a miniature version of Verdanturf Town. I am citing this post as my reason.
3P1K said:
ROLE MADNESS BB
-Empoof
Anywho considering the fact you seperated out the fact that he said "Dont lynch me till tmmrw" at like L-6 or something and the fact he was hella sus I assume you can elaborate the case a bit more? If im not voting the slot its cause im not convince. Convince me bb
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Come to think of it, why has the general assumption been that this game is Role Madness? Mind if somebody explains that? Is this just because two people have claimed they have a PR?
Asek said:
multiquoting on xenforo is awful so ill do post## referencing

#257 i think this is the first post between CB and leet. cb raises a fos here for leet being overly defensive which is somewhat valid and also that leet keeps bringing up the fact theyre bad at mafia and always gets caught as scum which is wolfy? i dont really follow the second point but i also didnt understand why hitmonleet felt the pressure from this FoS to say they had a fucking pr in #259 and call the push suspect? leets definitely played enough to know claiming a pr there wasnt optimal and im more suprised that it was a FoS from the fng that made them go 'im really happy with my role and dont want to get lynched so i can use it'. doesnt seem like a natural reaction to have from it?

#335 leet prods CB to respond tot heir post in #259 and calls them mafia lurking and waffling. i dont get the waffling part - i think theyve been somehwat consistent in the few hings they had and willing to drop them if their interpreation is wrong, the problem atp would have been they didnt really have reads? they also point out the moody tr as BS and im trying really hard to not read into the moody tr but im suprised leet read the moody iso and didnt decide to put any pressure onto moody as well here? if they dont think moody has anything ai in their iso why not pressur them as well, think leet may be fearing blowback here they think they wont get from cb but know they wold get from moody.

#342 CB calls leets push on them omgus. think this isnt the greatest response, could have at least discussed the moody thing other than role name or picked apart leets argument here

#344 hitmonleet says the only thig they want from cb is one solid thought - i think the 2 reads they have are solid thought enough and can probably be used to read ai at this point. coaching potential here

#353 leet vote CB

#360 this response feels weird from CB. like the reason to elevate the FoS doesnt seem to flow to me? the lack of reads creaing a discussion about lack of reads gwenerating discussion weird circulr logic shit and dont think hitmonleet tried to ignore everything else they had to say, but i feel like its mor defensive towny to say here 'why are you ignoring wha im saying' rather then whay i think a defensive scum would say here (which i would put along tthe lines of 'why are you ignoring everyone else scumreading you)

#365 reads like a massive overreaction / werido post. getting some real weird vibes from that one

#380 this respone from CB feels towny enough.

#395 unsure what to think of this response from leet

the posts after this kind of signifiy a mutual scumread from thw two of them. idk what to really make of this. i think hitmonleets push onto cb here is worse then cbs push onto leet. CB reads a bit like a level 1 townie who 'pushing me = scum with agenda' wheras i think leets push isnt as good and reads a bit weird in its progression. theres also some moments that read kine f like w/w theatre to me and empoof raised this as well. overall i think leet comes across as wolfier in these posts than CB, CB has fair odds of being a level 1 townie that scum!leet sees and tries to pressure into saying something silly
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Actually I was more interested in his refusal to accept I had a reason. Ik OMGUS's are generally a bad thing... hell I tend not to vote unless I'm fairly confident in my read. There's a difference between having never played before and having never played on these forums before. I wouldn't assume that I'm a completely new player when it comes to your reads, just remember that I've never played with this group of people before.

Now then, back to fucking around with fictional baseball players.
 
hitmonleet thrashing around about having a headache and being rustled wasn't doing it for me

was going to post a "it's okay i'll cfd you later in the day" but figured that would just set him off more
 
He's been pretty consistent with his freak out comments on the pace of the game which I think is coming from a mindset of him desperately trying to keep up and figure things out as town especially as a lynch target. I don't think he's as concerned with the pace if he's scum, more likely that he slows down himself to try and figure out what angle to take.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
It's not sudden, I was waiting for more on you. Your original post was scummy but not so scummy that it couldn't from town, and I think your recent train of posts comes from town
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To elaborate, this is a tone read, you talked at length about people's possible alignments and I'm not seeing anything implying that you're informed on who is what, what I'm see is genuine speculative attempt to try and fit people into the right places
 
Former Hope said:
ftr I'm probably not going to poke my head in too much since this has been a really frustrating game so far and I just rather do more enjoyable things with my time

that said, I do feel like there has to be a scum in asek/viper/apricity just given how completely ridiculous the push on me as been, from intentionally misreading posts to then refusing to change their reads once it's been pointed out that their original read is based on complete BS.

So in light of both of those things, if I am lynched today please lynch from those 3 tomorrow.
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Reads to me as genuine frustration and not understanding who pushing on him is scum when he feels it's baseless.

Former Hope said:
honestly this game illustrates why my towngame is scummy and what I should try to work on. I never take the time to actually word out my posts to be persuasive as town and so it comes off as a stream of conscious - compared to my scum game where I have the info and can compose things to try and be manipulative.
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This post was the one that made me town read him since I'd say it's a fairly accurate representation of this game. He hasn't been trying to change other peoples opinions just trying to get his own out. Maybe I'm falling for his "manipulation" but that's what I felt.
Former Hope said:
I've honestly mostly checked out and avoided this game for the last 24+ hours besides a few things here and there that caught my eye.

Lynch wise, apricity or viper I guess. They are definitely the worst offenders here. With a brainlessness that I don't think is town.



How about you stop pretending a townread post is a scumread post when it's obviously in context a town read post.
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Also the lack of "picking a side" between apricity and viperz felt better than saying one was objectively better than the other
 
Asek said:
multiquoting on xenforo is awful so ill do post## referencing

#257 i think this is the first post between CB and leet. cb raises a fos here for leet being overly defensive which is somewhat valid and also that leet keeps bringing up the fact theyre bad at mafia and always gets caught as scum which is wolfy? i dont really follow the second point but i also didnt understand why hitmonleet felt the pressure from this FoS to say they had a fucking pr in #259 and call the push suspect? leets definitely played enough to know claiming a pr there wasnt optimal and im more suprised that it was a FoS from the fng that made them go 'im really happy with my role and dont want to get lynched so i can use it'. doesnt seem like a natural reaction to have from it?

#335 leet prods CB to respond tot heir post in #259 and calls them mafia lurking and waffling. i dont get the waffling part - i think theyve been somehwat consistent in the few hings they had and willing to drop them if their interpreation is wrong, the problem atp would have been they didnt really have reads? they also point out the moody tr as BS and im trying really hard to not read into the moody tr but im suprised leet read the moody iso and didnt decide to put any pressure onto moody as well here? if they dont think moody has anything ai in their iso why not pressur them as well, think leet may be fearing blowback here they think they wont get from cb but know they wold get from moody.

#342 CB calls leets push on them omgus. think this isnt the greatest response, could have at least discussed the moody thing other than role name or picked apart leets argument here

#344 hitmonleet says the only thig they want from cb is one solid thought - i think the 2 reads they have are solid thought enough and can probably be used to read ai at this point. coaching potential here

#353 leet vote CB

#360 this response feels weird from CB. like the reason to elevate the FoS doesnt seem to flow to me? the lack of reads creaing a discussion about lack of reads gwenerating discussion weird circulr logic shit and dont think hitmonleet tried to ignore everything else they had to say, but i feel like its mor defensive towny to say here 'why are you ignoring wha im saying' rather then whay i think a defensive scum would say here (which i would put along tthe lines of 'why are you ignoring everyone else scumreading you)

#365 reads like a massive overreaction / werido post. getting some real weird vibes from that one

#380 this respone from CB feels towny enough.

#395 unsure what to think of this response from leet

the posts after this kind of signifiy a mutual scumread from thw two of them. idk what to really make of this. i think hitmonleets push onto cb here is worse then cbs push onto leet. CB reads a bit like a level 1 townie who 'pushing me = scum with agenda' wheras i think leets push isnt as good and reads a bit weird in its progression. theres also some moments that read kine f like w/w theatre to me and empoof raised this as well. overall i think leet comes across as wolfier in these posts than CB, CB has fair odds of being a level 1 townie that scum!leet sees and tries to pressure into saying something silly
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One nitpick: As I reiterated, when I was asking for the solid thought, I meant outside of the reads, since I had posted my argument against and they hadn't responded or acknowledged it.
 
Empoof said:
Reads to me as genuine frustration and not understanding who pushing on him is scum when he feels it's baseless.



This post was the one that made me town read him since I'd say it's a fairly accurate representation of this game. He hasn't been trying to change other peoples opinions just trying to get his own out. Maybe I'm falling for his "manipulation" but that's what I felt.


Also the lack of "picking a side" between apricity and viperz felt better than saying one was objectively better than the other
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ok

i hated:
1) ATE. granted i dont like to read into ate because im generally a not very emotionally charged person in mafia games i just really hate the kind of guilt tripping fh is employing like the people pushing on them are the reason they arent enjoying the game and arent in the thread when its like 3 people who have voted them that exploring other angles at the same time? like i dont think the writings on the wall for their slot to say they aren enjoying themselves and to just flop... lol

2) the part about lynching in apricity / viper / myself if they get lynched. this part triggered me more. it comes across like scare tactic to try get people to doubt pushing them because the post will justify them getting shoved on tomorrow if theyre wrong. what makes apricity / viper worse then me in this regard? like i understand wanting to hold people accountable to ur lynch if ur towny but why not analyse the reasons why people are saying what they are, look at other people who have raised suspicions of your slot and see where the ones with agenda are etc rather then just this throwaway crap

unrelated but i dont lie how they chose to engage with vipers post instead of mine when i think my lines of interrogation and sorting are stronger but thats probably just my overbloated ego talking
 
if theres anything making me doubt my push on fh its the fact i tunneled hard on a towny with bad reasonings / logic d1 of intivationals ad the thing i raised earlier about hem getting reverse read :pimp:
 
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