NOC Greek Mythology Mafia [GAME OVER: SCUM WIN]

Former Hope said:
nah, I just don't see a point in doing much. This game is sort of puzzling because I do see multiple town people and not a lot of really scummy behavior. But I just don't really care and don't want to put in the work to get myself townread because there's just not a lot of point. People have already made up their mind clearly and very few people actually bother to change it.
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Former Hope said:
Hm,

3P1K - don't remember anything from him
apricity - idk. Don't really like him I guess. His push on me is notably odd and he hasn't really backed it up. It feels like the push is coming more from an agenda than a genuine post. Like he doesn't seem to actively be finding reasons to push me, he just does it and leaves it there.
Texas Cloverleaf - Maybe town. I swear I don't recall any mafia games....actually I know he hasn't had any recent mafia games. But town texas is usually lazy and over relies on people he town reads and that's exactly what he's doing right now
Hitmonleet - Town
Blazade - He's been inactive like I have, but he has some solid reasoning in his post. He's bringing in outside information which does show clear proof of thought. idk maybe it's not a good example but last I recall of his scum game in animal mafia it was pretty different then this.
MoodyCloud - he's in the game? cool
Former Hope
Empoof - The only thing that really stick in my mind is his "why is nobody paying attention to me" which is probably way too WIFOM to do anything with.
Asek - idk, I don't like his push one me. But I think he's town.
DaveDob/Josh - I always SR josh, he's just that kind of player.
CaffeineBoost* - man, I know he's posted but I also just realized he's a hard null
woofpack* - don't remember anything from him
Itzviper482* - either awful town or weak scum
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ItzViper482 said:
if at any point josh flips scum asek is most likely also scum imo, dave and asek buddied early in game
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can you explain this one

will it change ur stance if i tell u dave and i were playing in another game at the same time where we mutually trd each other (and did turn out to be both town)
 
Former Hope said:
I'd need to read more into it then. But then the 'wagon' is: Empoof, asek, Apricity, epik, CB huh?

I guess my first note is, asek and apricity together again. Have they buddied a lot together? I just remember the weird double vote on me which I felt like at one point might have been something like "vote FH". I think it would be interesting to see their interactions so far. (Since it also could as easily be one of them is just pocketing the other).

Otherwise, not sure. I do want to back to invitational and read through Asek and your recent scum game just to get a base. Otherwise if I had to say if I think one+ scum are on the wagon. I'd say yes. I think regardless of leet's alignment he's the kind of guy you'd want to bus+push early as it's easy to get town points going after him.
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i dont remember being on a hitmonleet wagon with apricity except for maybe rvs where i placed my vote and went to sleep. maybe they voted them as well then. idrc enough to go back and check it.

what was weird about apricity following me onto you?
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
hey Josh that cb post is ugly remind me why they're bad im down to turbo now
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No defence for this. Perfectly fair comment and reason to vote me. I won't deny that
Former Hope said:
I'll do you one better, what is town.
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Baby don't hurt me.

Empoof said:
help me out with caffieneboost, do you have any thoughts that spark with that slot?

how do you feel about me town reading fh/you/epik rn?
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Viper? Iirc the main piece of discussion involving Viper is apricity's push on him and tbh I think apricity's logic is fairly decent. What I don't agree with is the conclusion. While I don't townread Viper, I feel that the exchange wasn't really showing that he was scummy. Apricity was also very keen to get people to vote for him.

As for your townreads, I... don't really care all that much? The FH one is unusual given the circumstances but iirc you claim to have townread everybody so being on that list doesn't exactly mean anything.
Empoof said:
Vote CaffeineBoost
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This also renders the townread a bit useless ;]

After this, the vote count appears to be on me which is fine. My flip would help this game a decent amount I think.

As for my current reads, I find nadroj's reasoning to be a bit lacking. His vote for me seems to be partially based on what he thinks is me "manipulating the facts". I think he's just finding the LHF and picking it.
 
XnadrojX said:
God xenforo quoting sucks.



Uh, there was this one post they had where they detailed a whole bunch of reads and stuff with analysis, it was on page 20-something iirc.

I TRed Leet for interactions, I felt his annoyance at CB was legit and the way he's posting feels like Town letting loose than Scum carefully crafting stuff. The rest were mostly gut, which I will discount now that there are 44 pages and a lot more stuff to read off (god I joined a Smogon game not an MU game). I think your posting is towny because I only don't get you from certain points, and the rest of your points are all really towny so a few ??? won't change the fact that you have a whole bunch of townie stuff.

Because 1. You TR CB and you're a UniTR and fighting you would be pointless and a waste of post space, 2. I don't really have as strong case because the case relies on our interpretation of CB, and your interpretation is of a frustrated townie while mine is of a defensive scum, (probably the wrong word to use here but w/e).


Someone else read Josh for me pls, he gives off this "I should be TRed" vibe but at the same time his content isn't really towny objectively, and I can't read these people so my previous post on him still stands, I'm sheeping someone else's reads on this.


RAD's been playing Mafia for literally 3 years, even if most of it is on PS. Whoever brought up that he was inexperienced (I think it was Josh or Texas) never followed up and RAD's choice to ignore and leave it is weird.


Need to get to reading FH and Viper and argghhhh
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ill read page 20 and see if i can find it but empoofs thoghts tend to be spread across multiple posts. ill take a look

leets frustration being legitimate is something texas brang up as well. im not very good at reading into those kinds of things, maybe i should respect that interpretatio of their ations a bit more. any examples of things you think ive done that are particularly towny? i dont really like how widely trd i am. eerie and think theres a bit of disrespect of my range going on but ehhh

i dont think fighting (or shall we use nicer words, discussing) your case with me is a waste of threadspace. i just havent really seen a captivating case on caffeineboost to make me want to reevaluate my read on them and potentially drop them. thought if u think im a univeral tr ud be more interested in shifting my opinion to see ur stance

im keeping my cards close to my chest wrt a few players, josh included bt the dave tr i had transferred to them and ill just make it a daypass and potentially reevaluate shit tomorrow

it may be weird to you, but do you think its wolfy?
 
Former Hope said:
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Texas Cloverleaf - Maybe town. I swear I don't recall any mafia games....actually I know he hasn't had any recent mafia games. But town texas is usually lazy and over relies on people he town reads and that's exactly what he's doing right now
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is this a fair assesment of texas meta? want other people to weigh in here

its a fair bit differant from how i would describe it from the last games i played with them and there was something i was mulling over it was related to

note: has never played a scum game with texas here
 
Depending on my time availability and level of investment that's either an accurate assessment or I'm frenetically over-engaged. You've sort of seen both ends of that scale. More or less holds true for scum!Texas as well maybe weighted more towards sporadic bursts of activity and general in action.

I have a rule where I'm only allowed to roll town on smogon and only scum literally anywhere else, keeps things simple
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
Depending on my time availability and level of investment that's either an accurate assessment or I'm frenetically over-engaged. You've sort of seen both ends of that scale. More or less holds true for scum!Texas as well maybe weighted more towards sporadic bursts of activity and general in action.

I have a rule where I'm only allowed to roll town on smogon and only scum literally anywhere else, keeps things simple
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ok. i was getting a bit paranoid u werent as 'hungry' for lack of better word this game as i recalled you being in the last couple town games id seen from you but i was unsure whether to chalk it up to you beng on vacation or not
 
Yeah no I'm not getting to look at things today, I have 4th of July stuff to handle.

I'll be able to pop in real quick near dl, but sorry guys, I can't really provide any more discussion or thoughts this day phase
 
Asek said:
ok. i was getting a bit paranoid u werent as 'hungry' for lack of better word this game as i recalled you being in the last couple town games id seen from you but i was unsure whether to chalk it up to you beng on vacation or not
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It's also experience related, I don't care as much anymore about most posts because most posts are meaningless crap from off the Mark townies. I'll zero in when I think I've found something and bulldog that.
 
feeling a lot better about jordan. i liked his stuff on page 44

Unvote XnadrojX


Texas Cloverleaf said:
Vote former hope

I think it really is just this anyway

Think the scum team is Former Hope+(Blazade or viper)+(empoof or Josh), gotta find time to look for interactions
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why me OR blazade. what do we have in common or why is it one or the other. explain to me your thought process here

Empoof said:
Also didn't want to out my homie last night but viperz used "fair enough" which is something I've found scum to say often

Became a huge meme in champs when davedob used it as a wolf a ton
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thats just how i talk oo, i said it there cause like i said i didnt have much to say but i had a gut feeling that i disagreed with what your saying. i didnt think just saying i disagree with you because of only my gut read is a little pointless.

Asek said:
can you explain this one

will it change ur stance if i tell u dave and i were playing in another game at the same time where we mutually trd each other (and did turn out to be both town)
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i explained it when empoof asked me, it probs would change my stance

I liked caffeine on page 46-47, he sounded a lot like town who understands their mistakes and has consistent logic'

CaffeineBoost said:
After this, the vote count appears to be on me which is fine. My flip would help this game a decent amount I think.
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i cant tell whether i like this line or not

how do you think your flip would help this game?



im having issues here cause i can see every1 being town rn
 
ItzViper482 said:
feeling a lot better about jordan. i liked his stuff on page 44

Unvote XnadrojX
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forgot to elaborate on this

i liked how he responded to Asek's post on page 44 and how he explained his reads on leet and rad especially rad when moving onto page 45
his vote on caffeine has good logic from him

i still dont know how i feel about him saying this:
"I'm sheeping someone else's reads on this. "
when it came to reading Josh but...

i liked this from him
"Need to get to reading FH and Viper and argghhhh "
this read as town to me
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