'LE' Smogn invttonl Gam Thred (Mafia Wins)

Metal Sonic said:
I am talking about him coming up with reads like “Texas is town cos meta” even though you don’t need meta to call Texas town. It’s unnecessarily and tacked on.
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Ok I understand better now, but tbh it could be tacky but not necessarily scummy imo, kinda mixed feels about nuxl rn
 
Metal Sonic said:
1. tigger has no elaboration of what "pinged" him, unsubstantiated and bogey. if it was something real and concrete, and it is so much easier to justify when comparing past games and meta, then he would present his evidence clearly. at this point he could be 100% making up wash.
2. bolded has nothing to do with meta at all. OMGUS = fake reads.
3. comparing user asek to user former hope even though they are two different people. didn't he say that he uses meta? FH plays so much many more games than me, but tigger can't find the appropriate evidence to prove FH scum. fake case with fake reasons

4. completely nothing about meta. instead of finding something scummy he quotes NAI stuff. not trying to sort me just finding fake reasons to "scumread" me which is very easy
5. bolded is completely OMGUS fake reasons "you are scumreading me, so i will find reasons to scumread you". completely agenda-y posts trying to lynch an easy mislynch without having to waste a nightkill. go-with-the-flow and fake.
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Metal Sonic said:
okay, that is a fine opinion to have. But do you understand my points now? When you first entered the thread you were wrong but now you are more correct. Does it change your read on me?
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Nah thought you could be scum before you ever exchanged with nuxl and still think you could be scum now
 
Nuxl said:
FH has things that pinged me in comparison to his previous game. I also don't fully believe his read on me and his tunnel on OM is kinda wack; reminding me of asek's push

your content has been filler and i dont fully believe your progression on your reads especially around yeti's slot and the questions you asked me into a "lamist" vote reasoning. you are tunnelling my slot without any sort of interest in sorting me. you are dodging my questions
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Nuxl can you elaborate on the fh/asek comparison. Do you think it's always effective to apply one players meta onto another player? What similarities do they show? Do asek and FH have a similar scum game in your opinion?
 
Metal Sonic said:
okay, why don’t you explain your read on me before and after, and did anything change. Or if nothing changed, why not?
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Oh I think you are scummy because you decided to sheep Josh and say you aren't going to try then proceeded to be really active. You couldn't made reads but avoided committing for a long time hiding behind the fact that you are sheeping Josh.
 
Duskfall98 said:
Oh I think you are scummy because you decided to sheep Josh and say you aren't going to try then proceeded to be really active. You couldn't made reads but avoided committing for a long time hiding behind the fact that you are sheeping Josh.
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if you were reading the game, it is something Texas said that inspired me to play right. Does that explain things to you?

what’s wrong with sheeping josh? Why is that scummy? Is it wrong the sheep josh? Please explain
 
Metal Sonic said:
if you were reading the game, it is something Texas said that inspired me to play right. Does that explain things to you?

what’s wrong with sheeping josh? Why is that scummy? Is it wrong the sheep josh? Please explain
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It doesn't change my opinion because you started playing differently after I had already outted the tell.

It's not inheritly scummy to sheep but imo the situation with you was. Sheep are usually:
1) people who consider themselves bad players/aren't confident in themselves
2) not active

I don't think you fit either of this criteria, so for me it was scummy for you.

You also made sure to repeatedly say that you are relying on Josh, which seemed to me like you were laying it out as a means to refer back to later upon mislynches so you can't take the blame.
 
Duskfall98 said:
It doesn't change my opinion because you started playing differently after I had already outted the tell.

It's not inheritly scummy to sheep but imo the situation with you was. Sheep are usually:
1) people who consider themselves bad players/aren't confident in themselves
2) not active

I don't think you fit either of this criteria, so for me it was scummy for you.

You also made sure to repeatedly say that you are relying on Josh, which seemed to me like you were laying it out as a means to refer back to later upon mislynches so you can't take the blame.
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Good explanation. Then I ask you, as tigger complained and cried to me, “must I always play optimally to be town?!” “Does town always play optimally?”
 
I can only gives the tells that I think look scummy to me, and it's up to us to judge when someone is playing sub optimally and when it is scummy. Obviously this is subjective, if it wasn't this game would be easy and town wouldn't lose.
 
Duskfall98 said:
Nuxl can you elaborate on the fh/asek comparison. Do you think it's always effective to apply one players meta onto another player? What similarities do they show? Do asek and FH have a similar scum game in your opinion?
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wording around that is wrong; i meant regarding FH's push on asek last game and FH's push on OM this game feel similarly... off
 
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