'LE' Smogn invttonl Gam Thred (Mafia Wins)

Former Hope said:
I'm being serious. This is low tier play and I'm surprised to see it from you.

Even if I'm doubting a lynch, I'm not incentivized to stop it if I still think there's a solid chance of the person being scum.

Then expressing doubt at the end. That's such a scum 101 thing that everyone knows that it lacks any significance at higher play. It was my moment of "oh fuck, okay then" but if I'm scum, then I know it's scummy. If I'm town, I also know it's scummy so I don't care. It's just WIFOM.
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You just literally said its scummy, and I hate arguments that X is too scummy to be scum. If something is scummy its scummy and to let it fly because someone is too good to make such a play as scum or whatever is dumb. Also town doubting a lynch should always offer their thoughts, because if you doubt it chances are you believe there is a better lynch that town could've switched to. For example ms was on the cards yesterday and you placing your vote there could easily have got someone else lynched instead of a wagon which you "doubt" but still scumread up until the moment deadline was called.
 
Former Hope said:
are you kidding me?

Mafia knows who the town are. Mafia knows who the mafia are. If you set up "we should lynch this person if this person flips town" then the mafia knows what's going to happen because they know the alignment of the first person
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So do you think reading an interaction as tvs is always ineffective?
 
Like, can we just accept as an assumption, that I have decent experience playing scum.

Why would I do something, that I know is scummy as scum. Like, no one's town reading that shit.

Answer: I would do it as scum because it's so scummy that I would expect people to know I wouldn't do it as scum and town read me for it.

that's why it should be read as NAI or WIFOM.
 
Former Hope said:
Like, can we just accept as an assumption, that I have decent experience playing scum.

Why would I do something, that I know is scummy as scum. Like, no one's town reading that shit.

Answer: I would do it as scum because it's so scummy that I would expect people to know I wouldn't do it as scum and town read me for it.

that's why it should be read as NAI or WIFOM.
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Idc how good you are if you do something that I think is scummy, that you admit is scummy I'm going to read it as scummy.
 
I can see an MS lynch still.

But they are also someone that's just crazy to read and I wonder if it's worth bothering to even read them. Like, frustratingly, I think they could play this game the exact way they've played it as either town or mafia and there's not the connections there from another scum member to make me feel really good about conclusively giving them an alignment.

Once someone (or if Ig) does flip scum, they become a lot easier to read imo.
 
hey guys im still ill but i'll recover

asek doesnt want to replace out since he already has his hands full looking for one for jalmont.

i'll respond to the posts so far on d2 then i'll go to rest

not surprised by om room flipping town as i determined from my later theories on d1. can understand why he was scummy but he had legit original thought process later on.
 
Former Hope said:
Like, can we just accept as an assumption, that I have decent experience playing scum.

Why would I do something, that I know is scummy as scum. Like, no one's town reading that shit.

Answer: I would do it as scum because it's so scummy that I would expect people to know I wouldn't do it as scum and town read me for it.

that's why it should be read as NAI or WIFOM.
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i have to deal with this shit all game too
 
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