Project Break My Team 2.0

Hey everyone! BMT is making its return!
BMT stands for Break My Team, where the idea is that a team is featured each week, and through community input, all kinds of random counters can be found. The only requirement is that the counter 3-0es the team! How doesn't matter, whether its putting on a resist berry or running something crazy like Special Attacking Zygarde, all that matters is that it 3-0es.

Lets set some rules:
  1. Please be respectful of others on this thread.
  2. Please provide some basic (but not too extensive) calcs to prove that your counter does indeed "break" the team
  3. Rolls must be at least 87.5% in the counter's favor. This goes for living and killing, and should open up options a bit more in terms of EV distribution.
  4. Moves with at least 70% accuracy will always count as hitting.
  5. Secondary effects like burn from Fire Blast will not count as a win condition, except in the of stall battles, such as poisoning once with sludge wave when it is needed against a bulky target.
  6. 50/50s between two Pokemon means that the featured team does indeed have a way to counter it, and should not count as "countering."
  7. Pokemon undergoing a suspect test will not be eligible to be a counter, and will also not be able to be a part of a featured team until its suspect test has concluded.
  8. Please only one counter per post, but a singular person can submit more than one counter per cycle.
  9. I reserve the right to delete posts that aren't counters, but will try and talk to the poster before hand.
  10. Teams can come from anywhere! I will be taking any user submitted teams, whether its through discord (I am Freddy Kyogre#0002) or through PM on PS!. I'll look at the team and review it, making sure there's not gaping holes, and if it's good, then it will be featured. I do first-come-first-serve, so the earlier you submit, the earlier your team will be featured! Please just remove names of individual Pokemon when submitting.
  11. The layover time will be 2 weeks, starting today, Saturday February 23rd. This means the next team will be featured on Saturday March 9th.
  12. Lastly, we will have voting for the community's favorite counter to be featured with the team! You can vote by liking a post with your favorite counter in it. You can also vote for multiple counters.
Teams and their #1 Counters

Good luck and thank you for participating!
 
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We're going to start BMT off with a team from me, featuring Naganadel, Altaria-Mega, and Donphan.

Naganadel @ Poisonium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Nasty Plot

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 144 HP / 80 Atk / 100 SpA / 184 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Cotton Guard
- Bulldoze
- Roost

Donphan @ Groundium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 244 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Endeavor
- Substitute
- Ice Shard

Remember, donphan can use endeavor to create 50/50 situations!
 
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Greninja @ Icium Z
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Hydro Cannon
- Dark Pulse

vs naganadel:
max speed evs make sure you outspeed, kill with z-ice

vs altaria mega:
outspeed and kill with z-ice

vs donphan:
hp flying turn 1 so groundium will not affect you and to break sturdy, kill with z-ice turn 2

252 SpA Protean Greninja Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 626-740 (218.1 - 257.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Protean Greninja Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 356-422 (108.8 - 129%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Protean Greninja Hidden Power Flying vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 127-150 (39.5 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 126-150 (44.2 - 52.6%) -- 19.9% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Protean Greninja Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 734-866 (228.6 - 269.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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We're going to start BMT off with a team from me, featuring Naganadel, Altaria-Mega, and Donphan.

Naganadel @ Poisonium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Nasty Plot

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 144 HP / 80 Atk / 100 SpA / 184 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Cotton Guard
- Bulldoze
- Roost

Donphan @ Groundium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 244 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Endeavor
- Substitute
- Ice Shard

Remember, rolls must be 87.5% in favor of the counter, and please provide some basic calcs in your post.
Meloetta 3-0s this team..
Meloetta @ Normalium Z
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 184 HP / 252 Def / 48 SpD / 24 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Laser Focus
- Hyper Beam
- Uproar

vs Naganadel
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 184 HP / 48+ SpD Meloetta: 199-235 (51.4 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Meloetta Breakneck Blitz (200 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Naganadel: 345-406 (120.2 - 141.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

vs Mega Altaria
80 Atk Altaria-Mega Bulldoze vs. 184 HP / 252 Def Meloetta: 47-56 (12.1 - 14.4%) -- possible 7HKO
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 184 HP / 48+ SpD Meloetta: 99-117 (25.5 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 0 SpA Meloetta Breakneck Blitz (200 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 390-460 (119.2 - 140.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

vs Donphan
0 SpA Meloetta Uproar vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 181-214 (56.3 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

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Magearna @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Soul-Heart
EVs: 140 Def / 176 SpA / 136 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam (not needed)
- Fleur Cannon
- Flash cannon - eliminates a 50/50 with donphan so use this over beam even tho no one clicks endeavor on mag
- Calm Mind (not needed)

56 extra not needed evs (preferably in speed or hp)

Altria:
176+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 326-386 (99.6 - 118%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

-2 176+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 164-194 (50.1 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

h voice does like 20% and bulldoze does 31 max w/o shuca
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donphan:
176+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 334-394 (104 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 140 Def Shuca Berry Magearna: 237-280 (78.7 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 140 Def Magearna: 18-21 (5.9 - 6.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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naga:

176+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 286-337 (99.6 - 117.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Naganadel Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magearna: 210-248 (69.7 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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We're going to start BMT off with a team from me, featuring Naganadel, Altaria-Mega, and Donphan.

Naganadel @ Poisonium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Nasty Plot

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 144 HP / 80 Atk / 100 SpA / 184 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Cotton Guard
- Bulldoze
- Roost

Donphan @ Groundium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 244 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Endeavor
- Substitute
- Ice Shard
Since there's a clear ice weakness in this team, let's go with classic icium Z suicune!

Suicune @ Icium Z
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Whatever
- Whatever

Donphan gets outsped and cannot 2HKO with Tectonic rage + Ice Shard
Suicune can just hit it with 2 non-Z ice beams to keep it out of endeavor range
It lives Nagadanel's Z and kills it with its own
It OHKO's Altaria after 1 cm, outspeeds it and lives its hits
244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 270-318 (75 - 88.3%)
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 20-24 (5.5 - 6.6%)
252+ SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 254-300 (79.1 - 93.4%)

252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 250-295 (69.4 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Suicune Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 418-494 (145.6 - 172.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


80 Atk Altaria-Mega Bulldoze vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 45-54 (12.5 - 15%)
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. +1 76 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 82-97 (22.7 - 26.9%)
+1 252+ SpA Suicune Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 360-424 (110 - 129.6%)
 
Reserving Metagross-Mega

Metagross-Mega @ Metagrossite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Magnet Rise
- Ice Punch
- Bullet Punch

Just Threw these ev's together, may edit for optimization later

Vs Naga

Just tank the fire blast and KO

252 SpA Naganadel Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Metagross-Mega: 176-208 (58.4 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross-Mega Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 330-390 (114.9 - 135.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Vs. Altaria

Ice Punch Into meteor Mash always wins

252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross-Mega Ice Punch vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 236-278 (72.1 - 85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross-Mega Meteor Mash vs. +3 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 168-200 (51.3 - 61.1%)

Vs Donphan

Magnet rise turn one, then ice punch into bullet punches
 
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lost heros

Meme Master
This'll be fun

Theoretically Delphox will work

Delphox @ Psychium Z
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dazzling Gleam
- Mystical Fire
- Will-O-Wisp
- Future Sight


Let's start with the easy one shall we?

252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 210-247 (59.3 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
72 SpA Delphox Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 626-740 (218.1 - 257.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after burn damage

You'll live a hit and then punish with a Super Effective Shattered Psyche
Fun!

Donphan is the next easy one.

244+ Atk burned Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Delphox: 288-340 (81.3 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
244+ Atk burned Donphan Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Delphox: 11-13 (3.1 - 3.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever

72 SpA Delphox Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 369-435 (114.9 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after burn damage

You just start off with an easy Will-o-Wisp because you're faster to neuter the Donphan, and then KO with the Z move

Now for the most fun one!

It's really important for Mega Altaria to get a Bulldoze in even though it'll do less damage after a burn than Hyper Voice will do. This is important because if it doesn't do this it won't be able to Roost on will and will (it'll lose anyways but I still think it's the best line of play for the MAlt).

80 Atk burned Altaria-Mega Bulldoze vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Delphox: 49-58 (13.8 - 16.3%) -- possible 7HKO
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Delphox: 69-82 (19.4 - 23.1%) -- possible 5HKO

Now looking at the calcs doesn't seem like Delphox will be able to outdamage roost right and then Mega Altaria will KO eventually with Hyper Voice?
72 SpA Delphox Dazzling Gleam vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 102-122 (31.1 - 37.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage
72 SpA Delphox Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 180-213 (55 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage

But that's where future sight comes in. Although it doesn't do much more damage than a Dazzling gleam it can force the Mega Altaria to take large chunks of damage at one time.
72 SpA Delphox Future Sight vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 114-135 (34.8 - 41.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage


Let me demonstrate: Simply roosting out of range of Dazzling Gleam won't work
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-866797209
And using roost to stay at your highest health possible will run you out of roosts and you'll still lose
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1-866795284


Now why did I pick this pokemon?
No it's not that good, and it's kinda janky. But it's a really fun concept. Delphox is a rather underdeveloped pokemon that has nice utility. It has access to Mystical fire not used here as a stronger snarl, Will-o-Wisp, and Calm Mind . A really good speed tier at 104, and just other strong stats. It's fairly untested because of other stronger fire types in the tier, but I wouldn't be surprised if in the future a C tiered set for this pokemon is discovered.

I also chose this pokemon to highlight a really fun strategy with Future Sight. Future sight is a devastating attack that can ruin a stall player's day. Even though the pokemon can easily tank it, the delayed nature of it forces inoptimal usage of recovery moves.

Plus it's way more fun than any of these other goobers.

So there's delphox.
 
We're going to start BMT off with a team from me, featuring Naganadel, Altaria-Mega, and Donphan.

Naganadel @ Poisonium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Sludge Wave
- Fire Blast
- Nasty Plot

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 144 HP / 80 Atk / 100 SpA / 184 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Cotton Guard
- Bulldoze
- Roost

Donphan @ Groundium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 244 Atk / 12 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Endeavor
- Substitute
- Ice Shard

Remember, donphan can use endeavor to create 50/50 situations!
Counter 2 : Bulky Choice Scarf Lele

Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Def / 128 SpA / 12 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunderbolt

vs Mega Altaria:
128 SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 210-248 (64.2 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 116 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Lele: 123-145 (39.6 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

vs Donphan:
244 Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 116 HP / 252 Def Tapu Lele: 262-309 (84.5 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
128 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Donphan in Psychic Terrain: 306-360 (79.6 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

vs Naganadel:
128 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Naganadel in Psychic Terrain: 524-620 (182.5 - 216%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And Base 95 at level 100 with 31 IVs, 12+ EVs at +1: 376. (Outspeeds Naganadel)
 

Tol

Retirement house
Since there's a clear ice weakness in this team, let's go with classic icium Z suicune!

Suicune @ Icium Z
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Whatever
- Whatever

Donphan gets outsped and cannot 2HKO with Tectonic rage + Ice Shard
Suicune can just hit it with 2 non-Z ice beams to keep it out of endeavor range
It lives Nagadanel's Z and kills it with its own
It OHKO's Altaria after 1 cm, outspeeds it and lives its hits
244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 270-318 (75 - 88.3%)
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 20-24 (5.5 - 6.6%)
252+ SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 254-300 (79.1 - 93.4%)

252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 250-295 (69.4 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Suicune Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 418-494 (145.6 - 172.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


80 Atk Altaria-Mega Bulldoze vs. 76 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 45-54 (12.5 - 15%)
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. +1 76 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 82-97 (22.7 - 26.9%)
+1 252+ SpA Suicune Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 360-424 (110 - 129.6%)
so when you say "phan gets outsped"
this phan, for god knows why, has endeavor, and endeavor+shard DOES notably kill.
so this isn't just a one liner, here's a counter: weird ass celesteela set
eas (Celesteela) @ Occa Berry
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 100 SpA
Brave Nature
- Substitute
- Earthquake
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Ice
basically tank everything and hit back harder, phan cant beat sub
 

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Everyone’s favourite sandcastle has come out to play!

Palossand @ Groundium Z
Ability: Water Compaction
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball / Amnesia / Toxic
- Earth Power
- Shore Up
- Iron Defense


252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Palossand: 264-312 (70.5 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (264, 267, 270, 274, 277, 280, 283, 286, 289, 292, 295, 298, 301, 304, 307, 312)

With the added spdef, you can also tank a specs naga which is much more common.
Z Earth Power OHKOs back.

With M-Alt, you can either Shadow Ball for drops, or toxic/amnesia for stall.

Against donphan, just iron defense, recover and win.
252+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 152 Def Palossand: 246-289 (65.7 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Donphan Earthquake vs. +2 252 HP / 152 Def Palossand: 69-82 (18.4 - 21.9%) -- possible 5HKO

Aaaand no endeavour shenanigans cos ya boi is ghost type ;)
 
Cryogonal @ Icium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Recover
- Protect

Altaria

Z-ice beam kills
Cryogonal is fast, so it outspeeds without any investment

Naganadel

Cryogonal is crazy specially defensive, so it tanks the fire blast and retaliates with the Z-ice beam

Donphan
toxic stall

Levitate invalidates Z-eq, and it resists ice shard, so toxic stall just wins
Calcs

Altaria
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Cryogonal: 108-127 (35.8 - 42.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Cryogonal Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 338-402 (103.3 - 122.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Naganadel
252 SpA Naganadel Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Cryogonal: 182-216 (60.4 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Cryogonal Subzero Slammer (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 594-702 (206.9 - 244.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Donphan

It’s toxic stall
what do you want
 
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Ehmcee

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Reserving Regular Gyarados:
Gyarados @ Steelium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Iron Head
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Now for Calcs:

Donphan:
Donphan can't use anything except ice shard or endeavor following the first turn, since gyarados taunts at turn 1, and can't sub on following turns.
-1 244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Gyarados: 28-34 (8.4 - 10.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Optimal moves for Gyarados:
Turn 1: Taunt (If Donphan doesn't sub, it's fine.)
Turn 2: Earthquake, beats sub: 252+ Atk Gyarados Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 99-117 (30.8 - 36.4%) -- 60.1% chance to 3HKO
If Donphan has no sub, it deals 30.8 to 36.4 damage.
Turn 3:
If donphan had a sub the previous turn, use earthquake again
If donphan didn't have a sub, just go for waterfall
Turn 4: Waterfall, easy dubs.

Naganadel:
252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 210-247 (63.2 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Gyarados Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 302-356 (105.2 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Altaria-Mega:
252+ Atk Gyarados Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 344-406 (105.1 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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Reserving Accelgor

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Accelgor @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sticky Hold
EVs: 28 HP / 248 Def / 112 SpA / 56 SpD / 64 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Acid Spray
- Bug Buzz
- Hyper Beam
- Water Shuriken

Donphan: 244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 28 HP / 248 Def Accelgor: 201-237 (65.2 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 28 HP / 248 Def Accelgor: 60-71 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO

Acid Spray + Bug Buzz then kills

Naganadel:
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 28 HP / 56 SpD Assault Vest Accelgor: 261-307 (84.7 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Fire Blast does less

Acid Spray + Hyper Beam kills

Mega Altaria:
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 28 HP / 56 SpD Assault Vest Accelgor: 127-151 (41.2 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Bulldoze will put Accelgor at 188 speed after 2 uses, meaning Accelgor still outspeeds.

Acid Spray twice then Hyper Beam. You OHKO with Hyper Beam at -6 meaning that if Mega Altaria attempts to Roost, you win. You will do enough, even if they don't mega evolve, to get them in range of hyper beam, assuming lowest roll.
112 SpA Accelgor Acid Spray vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria: 24-29 (7.3 - 8.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
112 SpA Accelgor Acid Spray vs. -2 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria: 48-57 (14.6 - 17.4%) -- possible 6HKO
112 SpA Accelgor Hyper Beam vs. -4 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria: 265-312 (81 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
7+14+81=102

Oh and Water Shuriken is filler
 
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Morgan

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Kyurem 3-0s. Noble Roar Roost + Z Blizzard, lives Naga (as it isn’t specs) and ohkos, ohkos alt or lives if it doesn’t OHKO. Stall Out donphan after it sets up a sub.

Naga: 252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Kyurem: 384-452 (84.5 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 spa ohkos so free

Alt: 0 SpA Kyurem Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 368-434 (112.5 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Donphan: Noble Roar has 48 pp, Kyurem PP Stalls
 
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ggopw

Banned deucer.
Reserving Accelgor

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Accelgor @ Assault Vest
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 56 SpA / 64 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Acid Spray
- Bug Buzz
- Hyper Beam
- Recover

Donphan: 244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 136 Def Accelgor: 237-280 (65.1 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 136 Def Accelgor: 71-84 (19.5 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO

Acid Spray + Bug Buzz then kills

Naganadel:
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Accelgor: 283-334 (77.7 - 91.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Fire Blast does less

Acid Spray + Hyper Beam kills

Mega Altaria:
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Accelgor: 139-165 (38.1 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Bulldoze will put Accelgor at 188 speed after 2 uses, meaning Accelgor still outspeeds.

If Mega Altaria mega evolves turn one or turn two, Acid Spray twice then Hyper Beam. You OHKO with Hyper Beam at -6, but 2 Acid Sprays into Hyper Beam also does the trick, meaning that if Mega Altaria attempts to Roost, you win.

If Mega Altaria does not mega evolve turn one, Acid Spray three times then Hyper Beam. Because Altaria is not Fairy-type, 2 Acid Sprays + Hyper Beam cannot do enough to OHKO 100% of the time; however, because Altaria is not as strong as Mega Altaria, no combination of moves can beat AV Accelgor, even if it Mega Evolves turn 4 (after using Bulldoze 3 times and then outspeeding), or Mega evolving turn 3 and using Hyper Voice after using Hyper Voice in regular form for turns 1 and 2
Av recover?? Maybe a joke but just in case

Also atti, mubs dude reserved lele 1 post above unless u guys had an agreement
 

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Venusaur @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 12 Atk / 252 Def / 228 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Outrage
- Synthesis
- Toxic
- Substitute

Toxic V Alt and Donphan and synthesis stall or sub stall

Alt does no damage

Lives and OhKOs naga
 
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Welp, I'm bored, so I'm doing a second one.

Cresselia!
Gonna admit, I kind of stole the idea of levitate from 413XPlayz

Cresselia @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Psychic
- Moonlight
- Protect

Naganadel:
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Cresselia: 169-199 (38.1 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
8 SpA Cresselia Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 390-458 (135.8 - 159.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Altaria:
Toxic and moonlight spam, easy money.
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Cresselia: 84-99 (18.9 - 22.3%) -- possible 5HKO
Plus shattered Psyche helps I guess
8 SpA Cresselia Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 111-132 (33.9 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Donphan:
And here's the fun part, he can't Groundium z, so that's out of the question.
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Cresselia: 39-47 (8.8 - 10.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
And he's clearly not killing us with ice shard.
So just toxic turn one and spam moonlight, easy money.
 

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Rampardos

Rampardos @ Icium Z
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 68 Atk / 92 SpA / 152 SpD / 196 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Blizzard
- Rock Tomb
- Laser Focus
- Avalanche


252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 152 SpD Rampardos: 283-334 (84.4 - 99.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

68+ Atk Rampardos Subzero Slammer (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 398-470 (138.6 - 163.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 152 SpD Rampardos: 187-222 (55.8 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

68+ Atk Rampardos Rock Tomb vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 106-126 (32.4 - 38.5%) -- 97.8% chance to 3HKO

This covers Bulldoze and voice t1

Laser Focus if Cotton Guard or Roost is used

68+ Atk Rampardos Subzero Slammer (120 BP) vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 282-334 (86.2 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Kills after Tomb

Crit always OHKOs

92 SpA Rampardos Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 322-380 (100.3 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

EVd to Outspeed
 
Reserving Regular Gyarados:
Gyarados @ Steelium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Iron Head
- Earthquake
- Taunt

Now for Calcs:

Donphan:
Donphan can't use anything except ice shard or endeavor following the first turn, since gyarados taunts at turn 1, and can't sub on following turns.
-1 244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Gyarados: 28-34 (8.4 - 10.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Optimal moves for Gyarados:
Turn 1: Taunt (If Donphan doesn't sub, it's fine.)
Turn 2: Earthquake, beats sub: 252+ Atk Gyarados Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 99-117 (30.8 - 36.4%) -- 60.1% chance to 3HKO
If Donphan has no sub, it deals 30.8 to 36.4 damage.
Turn 3:
If donphan had a sub the previous turn, use earthquake again
If donphan didn't have a sub, just go for waterfall
Turn 4: Waterfall, easy dubs.

Naganadel:
252 SpA Naganadel Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 210-247 (63.2 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Gyarados Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 302-356 (105.2 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Altaria-Mega:
252+ Atk Gyarados Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 344-406 (105.1 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Altaria has the option to not mega and Gyarados wouldnt kill. Even if you changed a move to Ice Fang its a 50/50 and that doesn't count.
 

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Bronzong @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
IVs: 0 Atk
- Imprison
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Psychic

Imprisons Donphan Sub, gets to CM and then Z Psychic, Walls altaria and CMs into Z Psychic. lives naga fire blast and kills with Z Psychic


100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bronzong: 61-72 (22.1 - 26.1%) -- 14.5% chance to 4HKO
T1 cm 74%
T2 cm like 56%
T3 cm like 45%
T4 z psy like 38%

Who needs EVs lol
 
Hey everyone! I've been busy working on the DPP 1v1 VR for the PL so I haven't got a chance to look at this until now. So when I looked at it the first thing I noticed was that it seems weak to Mewinum Z, and the calcs confirm this.

Mew @ Mewnium Z
Modest Nature
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic

It only needs two moves. By filling in the other two, this is an extremely viable option for in general, as well as a 3-0 counter with the two moves I put there. Calc time!

For Naganadel, you just use Mewinum Z and OHKO.

252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mew: 280-330 (69.3 - 81.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Mew Genesis Supernova vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 714-840 (248.7 - 292.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

For Altaria-Mega, you just nasty plot and then use Mewinum Z.

80 Atk Altaria-Mega Bulldoze vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 51-60 (12.6 - 14.8%) -- possible 7HKO

100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mew: 138-163 (34.1 - 40.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 252+ SpA Mew Genesis Supernova vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 406-478 (124.1 - 146.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

For Donphan, you just use Mewinum Z and then psychic. Genesis Supernova causes psychic terrain so Donphan won't be able to use ice shard.

244+ Atk Donphan Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 304-358 (75.2 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Mew Genesis Supernova vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 417-492 (129.9 - 153.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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