This is a thread posted at another forum I go to, and I thought it could spark some discussion and thought:
"I'm proposing a scenario. I've thought of dozens, but this is one. First off, let me preface this by saying that all this rests on the assumption that there is a big picture that the administration believes we cannot see, and that this big picture is not extremely devious and intended for essentially ultimately negative ends. Let's proceed then, to scenario 1 of the Iraq War.
The reason we are in Iraq is to secure the oil of Iraq, but not in a bad way. The reason we want to secure the oil in Iraq is so that we can topple Iran in a few years, but not allow them to play the trump card with their oil fields, and thus tag team with the Saudis to take away Iran's leverage. After Iran, we will move on from Afghanistan into a readily unstable Pakistan, and team up with India to fuck that country up. After Pakistan, we will turn on the Saudis, having basically gotten our mitts into a deal of Middle Eastern oil, and take the Saudi government out of power if it has not already reformed.
The point of going into these countries is to remove their trump card in the event of a war we know is coming. We intend to provide regime change to the entire Middle East, ultimately in a way that serves our interests, but partially, in a way that serve the interests of decency and quality of life for Middle Easterners. What upholds most dictators and ruthless men in the Middle East, South America, and Russsia is the price of oil that its biggest consumers pay. It is their trump card. The plan, then, is to take it away bit by bit, and reform the entire Middle East such that there will be no situation, as in Saudi Arabia, where a woman is raped, and then gets strung up for reporting the attacks.
It's still extremely flawed, and most of it could largely be sugarcoating for more devious ends, but this is, in my belief the only scenario that actually makes the Administration and their supporters look like they may have decency in them in this pursuit, it's just got this White Man's Burdenesque rotteness to it that could still be cover for imperialism.
So, what about you? What's your scenario? Another interesting one for Iraq is that we are in Iraq to prevent an insurrection in Saudi Arabia..."
Thoughts? Do you feel there is a bigger scenario in the War in Iraq and the War on Terror, one of hopefully noble ends? If this scenario were in fact the case, would you support, or be less opposed to, the wars?
"I'm proposing a scenario. I've thought of dozens, but this is one. First off, let me preface this by saying that all this rests on the assumption that there is a big picture that the administration believes we cannot see, and that this big picture is not extremely devious and intended for essentially ultimately negative ends. Let's proceed then, to scenario 1 of the Iraq War.
The reason we are in Iraq is to secure the oil of Iraq, but not in a bad way. The reason we want to secure the oil in Iraq is so that we can topple Iran in a few years, but not allow them to play the trump card with their oil fields, and thus tag team with the Saudis to take away Iran's leverage. After Iran, we will move on from Afghanistan into a readily unstable Pakistan, and team up with India to fuck that country up. After Pakistan, we will turn on the Saudis, having basically gotten our mitts into a deal of Middle Eastern oil, and take the Saudi government out of power if it has not already reformed.
The point of going into these countries is to remove their trump card in the event of a war we know is coming. We intend to provide regime change to the entire Middle East, ultimately in a way that serves our interests, but partially, in a way that serve the interests of decency and quality of life for Middle Easterners. What upholds most dictators and ruthless men in the Middle East, South America, and Russsia is the price of oil that its biggest consumers pay. It is their trump card. The plan, then, is to take it away bit by bit, and reform the entire Middle East such that there will be no situation, as in Saudi Arabia, where a woman is raped, and then gets strung up for reporting the attacks.
It's still extremely flawed, and most of it could largely be sugarcoating for more devious ends, but this is, in my belief the only scenario that actually makes the Administration and their supporters look like they may have decency in them in this pursuit, it's just got this White Man's Burdenesque rotteness to it that could still be cover for imperialism.
So, what about you? What's your scenario? Another interesting one for Iraq is that we are in Iraq to prevent an insurrection in Saudi Arabia..."
Thoughts? Do you feel there is a bigger scenario in the War in Iraq and the War on Terror, one of hopefully noble ends? If this scenario were in fact the case, would you support, or be less opposed to, the wars?
