Only thing I can think of is like full SpDef Necrozma-Mane setting Trick Room as counterplay (it might even need some anti-type berry like Occa too
)Might be able to beat it with psychic stab in this scenario
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)Might be able to beat it with psychic stab in this scenario
It doesn't survive a Neuroforce Photon Geyser from Ultra Necrozma, the calc defaults to Prims Armor.
Still, that thing still is impressive, Naganadel is already good on Ubers, Eternatus is just going to be totally broken
Agreed. We don't even know what its Eternamax form does, but its sig move also completely negates Dynamax as a defence on everything except fairies. Does Specs Mewtwo come anywhere close to a KO? Light That Burns The Sky probably wrecks it, especially if boosted.
The two other cover legends also seem like possible AG candidates, given that they're at least 700BST, have really good abilities and their stat spreads are *very* well optimised. All three legends outspeed most of the meta, too. Not to mention that they can also negate Dynamax as a defence, this time with types that don't have immunities
Goes without saying that a meta with this allowed is one where Mega Rayquaza is outclassed.
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Eternatus Fire Blast (145 SpA) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 343-406 (86.1 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKOOnly thing I can think of is like full SpDef Necrozma-Mane setting Trick Room as counterplay (it might even need some anti-type berry like Occa too
Might be able to beat it with psychic stab in this scenario
Definitely needs Occa, and I'm not even taking Max Flare into account.
How is national dex ladder gonna decide which mons learn the new TMs/TRs? Just not give them any at all? Latter is probably most likely, but it'll be off from what the true national dex ladder woulda been and that's sad. talking about the mons that are cut btw
This might be one of the few cases where pressure stall works since I'm pretty sure D Cannon has only 8 max PP. Dialga might be able to stall it out. Aegislash can take anything but an unboosted fire blast from it. Bulky Heatran would wall all three moves easily. In Galar meta, uh... Honestly don't know. Guess it'll depend on the moves the three steel Ubers have.
They'll use their gen 7 sets.
Do we know every Gigantamax form at this point? I need to find out if The King has a Gigantamax form yet. There’s high tension wires and a certain skyscraper that need knocking over.
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If it gets Nasty Plot, Eternatus goes from strong to outright ridiculous. It might not have Devastating Drake to nuke, but it has a very reliable Dragon-type STAB move. It might not have Beast Boost to become unrevengable outside of priority, but it has the bulk to make many revenge killers not very reliable (and that's assuming it doesn't have a base Speed of at least 130, as it would otherwise stomp Ultra Necrozma as well).
If it gets Nasty Plot, you'll wish you had Naganadel in the dex instead.
We don't and won't until data mining happens and that assumes none get added later. Atm though it looks like they made Charizard the Godzilla stand in.
Firstly, do we have calcs on Heatran? I imagine even resisted Dynamax cannon will take a lot.
Secondly, what is Heatran going to do to it in return? It's immune to Toxic.
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I still think there's more to see. We have no clue what Gigantamax Gengar looks like yet, and I still refuse to believe they'd make Garbodor the only non gen 1/8 Gigantamax, especially considering how much the distribution for regional variants has improved.
I feel like the datamine is long overdue at this point. Wasn't USUM's a good 10 days before launch? Meanwhile we're exactly one week out from release with possibly multiple people with the game in their hands and still nothing.
Heatran would wish it wore Heavy-Duty Boots. Or maxed Special Defense:
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Eternatus (160 SpA) Dynamax Cannon vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 182-214 (47.1 - 55.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Eternatus (145 SpA) Dynamax Cannon vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 169-199 (43.7 - 51.5%) -- 68% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
HOW is Charizard the Godzilla stand in? There’s little-to-no resemblance. The closest thing to Godzilla himself would be Burning Godzilla, but Fire Rodan would be the Godzilla kaiju I’d compare Charizard to.
If anything, I feel like Ho-Oh might be one the best Pokémon on National Ubers.
Immunity to SR, great typing against Zacian and Zamazenta, and it has the bulk to not be OHKOed by +2 Eternatus, and probably can EVed to 2HKO with Earthquake (or just be offensive and OHKO with EQ).
Immunity to SR, great typing against Zacian and Zamazenta, and it has the bulk to not be OHKOed by +2 Eternatus, and probably can EVed to 2HKO with Earthquake (or just be offensive and OHKO with EQ).
The best Ubirb being one of the best Ubers? I’m game.
Even with the lowest existing estimates (assuming symmetrical defenses), Adamant Ho-Oh cannot OHKO Eternatus with Earthquake. At least not without a Choice Band or Life Orb recoil.
252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def (140 HP / 95 Def / 95 SpD) Eternatus: 325-385 (77.1 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Still, Ho-Oh is going to be excellent in National Ubers. Wouldn't be surprised if it stole some roles from Primal Groudon.
Yeah, when I said offensive, I meant CB, as only the defensive would have immunity to rocks (but I think even CB can take one hit most of the time, it just would be vulnerable to hazards)
Previous datamines could happen before release because the preload for digital purchases was unencrypted. That's not the case on Switch, and breaking the encryption in a timely fashion requires resources not even the likes of the US or Chinese governments can muster.
The leakers could in theory dump their copies of the game, but that requires them to have jailbroken Switches, which is still nowhere near as accessible as the 3DS.
That's assuming Draco Meteor tho, which it probably wouldn't want to have considering its exclusive STAB (and I think Zs aren't going to be avaliable on national metas, but that's beside the point). Still, a +2 LO from its signature deals a lot to it too.
At least it fared better than Xerneas, which just gets obliterated by literally everything. They tried to create the strongest fairy counters, and they succeeded.
Who says nat dex gen 8 will have z moves?