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NOC Immorality Mafia N2

idk, I can see him revoting only cause caffbo kinda called him out to do it? I don't think those interactions make him any more townie than the rest of the ppl that voted hawkie. And staying on the vote by the end doesnt mean much, I mean if he was going to bus I think he'd stick with it and not raise suspicion last second.

regardless I dont scumread moody for things he said but rather for hawkie's request of an extend. if the rest of you feel like there's a better vote to make down the line Im willing to shift, but for right now this is what I got.
 
Transmuter said:
idk, I can see him revoting only cause caffbo kinda called him out to do it? I don't think those interactions make him any more townie than the rest of the ppl that voted hawkie. And staying on the vote by the end doesnt mean much, I mean if he was going to bus I think he'd stick with it and not raise suspicion last second.

regardless I dont scumread moody for things he said but rather for hawkie's request of an extend. if the rest of you feel like there's a better vote to make down the line Im willing to shift, but for right now this is what I got.
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that's fair, I think scum!moody switches to spiderz and doesn't shade hawkie in the first place though. VC was kind of a mess during the cfd
 
Transmuter said:
why'd you try to vig him?
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I hesitated between texas,you and spiderz, then considered idling since I was a claimed vig and might have been a redirect target

texas was just generally underwhelming d1, I didn't like his late hawkie ""tiebreak"" vote either, and tbh I didn't even stop to think that we might be a vig/bpv pairing
 
healndeal's role has very high scum equity if you assume scum has no factional kill since it can redirect a vig but so far there's only been one actual vig claim ? plus they seemed sort of towny d1

idk why scum would have an alignment cop though, 11p with third party and seemingly no scum nk would be a strange world to be in
 
MoodyCloud said:
healndeal's role has very high scum equity if you assume scum has no factional kill since it can redirect a vig but so far there's only been one actual vig claim ? plus they seemed sort of towny d1

idk why scum would have an alignment cop though, 11p with third party and seemingly no scum nk would be a strange world to be in
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I mean, you realize that there's another player with the inverse of my role, right? It is very likely that all roles, minus caffbo's, have 2 options, with the options being either opposite effects or inverse orderings.

I don't think anyone here doubts that my role has serious scum equity. It basically comes down to if you trust me or the yet-to-be-claimed redirector, since I really don't think in almost any game balance would there be 2 town redirectors and 0 scum, based on the roles so far revealed.

Also, Nuxl I got my answer from dusk. He basically said it comes down to the type of redirect, but idk wut that even means. it might imply that redirector role option 1 or 2 has higher priority than the other? idk.
 
In class. I got a similar answer heal, but clarify with the specific redirectors you know in your role PM.
 
M.C last night meant massclaim whoops btw

No strong opinion on Minus honestly. He feels a bit pure but there's not a lot of incentive to keep him alive?
 
MoodyCloud said:
healndeal's role has very high scum equity if you assume scum has no factional kill since it can redirect a vig but so far there's only been one actual vig claim ? plus they seemed sort of towny d1

idk why scum would have an alignment cop though, 11p with third party and seemingly no scum nk would be a strange world to be in
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What's the last paragraph in reference to
 
Nuxl said:
If this game is 6-5 no factional kill I think Moody is just auto scum here? Or just really brazen? Let's put into perspective why you would risk a 50-50 on the guy who solidified the vote on hawkie? I personally would have idled, but I also might just have no balls. Disappearing today is not a good look either. Didn't really like his progression on D1 either. I don't exactly think he should've been scumreading me there and then jumped on my hawkie cfd vote?
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see that first bolded sentence is grounds for thinking that there's no way you are this wrong as town, which answers the second one

as for the hawkie wagon I think I've already articulated that he was off d1, meaning that if I have to choose between a sketchy slot and uto as counterwagon I'm voting hawkie every day of the week, I have no idea why you or texas are this eager to take credit for the hawkie lynch lol I paid literally zero mind to texas in particular when reading hawkie and had no idea he had even pushed the slot before we went after it
 
Nuxl said:
I actually think flipping spiderz is interesting regarding setup purposes but if his blocked claim is true, then his slot and his own actions at eod are so erratic that i can't sell myself in thinking it's a good idea -_-
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flipping spiderz seems decent enough, tells us whether tbz is sane or not assuming his claim is legit
 
MoodyCloud said:
see that first bolded sentence is grounds for thinking that there's no way you are this wrong as town, which answers the second one

as for the hawkie wagon I think I've already articulated that he was off d1, meaning that if I have to choose between a sketchy slot and uto as counterwagon I'm voting hawkie every day of the week, I have no idea why you or texas are this eager to take credit for the hawkie lynch lol I paid literally zero mind to texas in particular when reading hawkie and had no idea he had even pushed the slot before we went after it
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I never took credit for the hawkie lynch.
 
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