Crisis in CK9++ City [Serial Killer Wins]

heuryalone said:
Was Somitomi the first vote on Clarinet? Based on Clarinet's success from Rewind and Somi's natural tendency to vote where told, I could clarinet telling scum buddy somi to vote him. Typical somi I dont expect to see as the first name on a wagon for someone voted off, nor do I think I've ever seen this.
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Checked this, think the answer is yes, though this makes me question why Clarinet would tell his partner to vote him. I should probably seriously just check Rewind myself at this point.

Independent of Clarinet connections I still find somi unimpressive today. Only two posts so far today, but that said there's ample room to have opinions on stuff and they aren't there. Don't think Clarinet gave anything solid on Somi, his name only comes up twice if I search in Clarinet posts using the search thing Cancerous mentioned.

Heading to bed, yet it's 6 AM, I've already judge myself thank you.
 
smogon account said:
this is policy-able
PR hunting in the thread is never good and you should know better
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This is where I start thinking Heury might be "too sketchy". This is terribly anti-town, but why would mafia do this in thread instead of keeping it to the scumchat and quietly killing Panic during the night? It's just weird. Same goes for the buddying between them and Clarinet, mafia would know better than to do this, since that's the first thing everyone looks at upon a mafia flip. Heury mentioned that I tend to put my buddy towards the middle as scum, this is kind of the reason for that. I was hoping Heury's game would clear up after the other shoe dropped, but it didn't. Sometimes I start to think this is flailing town, but then Heury isn't enough of a noob to flail this bad.
I honestly don't know what's going on here.
heuryalone said:
Was Somitomi the first vote on Clarinet? Based on Clarinet's success from Rewind and Somi's natural tendency to vote where told, I could clarinet telling scum buddy somi to vote him. Typical somi I dont expect to see as the first name on a wagon for someone voted off, nor do I think I've ever seen this.
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Didn't you say I tend to put my buddies towards the middle earlier?
heuryalone said:
Found scum mates

Also I'd expext scum somi to put his scum partner towards middle of their reads list, as seen in somi's read list.
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There it is.
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I've made some notes on the vote progress during the night, but I didn't have the time or energy to put them into words, so here it is now:
P12 votals:
Cancerous [2] - Panic Station, Clarinet
heuryalone [1] - Cancerous
An Explosion [1] - HeaLnDeaL
somitomi [2] - smogon account, Sultan of Skook
Panic Station [1] - heuryalone
P14:
somitomi votes Clarinet
Sultan votes Jalmont
P15:
Heury votes me
Smogon votes Explosion
P16:
Bloodyrain and Sultan vote Clarinet
Clarinet votes Explosion
Fenrir votes somitomi
P17: no votes
P18:
Cancerous and Heal vote Clarinet
I was going to say the last two votes look like a possible bus to me based on timing. Cancerous said they'd jump to Clarinet but not anyone else well ahead of time, so that looks good in my opinion. Heal's progress on Clarinet goes from "null" (P11) to "scatterbrained" and "weird" by P12 before voting close to day end. Honestly, that does feel a bit bussy to me, putting a weak scumlean on a buddy initially and then voting when you see they're pretty much dead anyway. I do have to read back on Heal's other posts and clarinets opinion on Heal to see if that idea holds water, but I already sat here typing this up for an hour, so lunch break.
 
Now announcing the current votecount:
heuryalone [3] - Panic Station, Cancerous, HeaLnDeaL
Fenrir Aesir [1] - Thunder~BALLZ
HeaLnDeaL [1] - JALMONT
Thunder~BALLZ [1] - heuryalone
Cancerous [1] - smogon account
somitomi [1] - U-Turn Out
 
Good morning. Second verse, same as the first. I'm doing another walrus reveal today. And after that I'm not running another reveal until the 27th.

Fenrir Aesir said:
How did Clarinet @ Jalmont mirror Rewind Clarinet @ Moody like you mentioned?
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Both interactions were Clar begging someone not to slank, then giving up when he realized he couldn't change anything. Moody was replaced by Mewtwo, who flipped scum on D2.
 
Fenrir Aesir said:
As a general question, when did we graduate from "Skook probably wasn't vigged" to "There's definitely an SK in the setup"? I agree it's more likely but I feel like I missed something where people are taking it as an assumed truth.
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More the inverse. We kinda started with "Oh, it's an SK setup" and then when Heury mentioned Vig is apossibility, I decided it was a possibility I like. Vig in the game means Veteran and Supersaint in the game, which means scum have to second guess eveything while Vig chance is on the table.
 
Aight I might have a little bit of a tunnel vision.
So smogon account didn't townreading clarinet the whole day. Just almost the whole day. I may revisit this in the future.

The future where huery is lynched to day of course. Asking to be lynched later? that's just another stalling tactic.
What did I say? Stall and misdirect.



Other than that, I find somitomi's reluctance to actual vote and their general approach of not stepping on toes somewhat suspicious.

And this
Panic Station said:
HeaLnDeaL Over at MU, TWTBAW tends to be innocence by incredulity.
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I can't see myself agreeing with this.
You're willing to jump through hoops to excuse someone else's behaviors in their stead. That's not a thing random town players would/should do for another player whose alignment is unclear.
It's stupid at best, scummy at worst.

What baffles me is more than 1 people are entertaining this concept. You can't be all scums so make up your mind and drink your wine.


That remind me of the mindmeld thing. How's that treating you lmao rekt ligma.
 
I was talking about how the term is defined in another category. It has nothing to do with Heury and I don't agree that Heury is too wolfy to be a wolf.

Also, you're laughing at yourself becuase I'm mindmelding with you on the stall point.
 
Clarification:
Hammer being enabled Day 1 is purely to indicate that unlike other games, hammer wasn't disabled for Day 1. Hammer is enabled on every day. With 10 players, 6 votes will constitute a hammer.
 
somitomi said:
I was going to say the last two votes look like a possible bus to me based on timing. Cancerous said they'd jump to Clarinet but not anyone else well ahead of time, so that looks good in my opinion. Heal's progress on Clarinet goes from "null" (P11) to "scatterbrained" and "weird" by P12 before voting close to day end. Honestly, that does feel a bit bussy to me, putting a weak scumlean on a buddy initially and then voting when you see they're pretty much dead anyway. I do have to read back on Heal's other posts and clarinets opinion on Heal to see if that idea holds water, but I already sat here typing this up for an hour, so lunch break.
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I already explained my vote, and as you pointed out above I never had a positive reaction towards clarinet to start with. If I somehow started buddy buddy with clar and then changed my mind completely later, then your argument might have more weight. but when smogon asked me to actually read clar's iso and clar's interaction with other players, the weirdness was much more apparent.

I think you're a tryhard townie and so you're not really suspect to me, but I also think that you're sort of ignoring the more likely outcome of heury being scum. heury was the one who actually tried to save clar. what do I gain from starting to bus a scum buddy in part12, and a tailor scum buddy at that?

I think you're genuinely tryharding, but you're not really looking at what people gain from saying something in the moment of saying it.
 
1) CC won't prove or disprove anything. There are 4 possible setups for P and three of them have multiple chances for BG.
2) If another P player were to claim, they'd just paint a target on themself.
 
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