Can you give us some reads?
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Can you give us some reads?
Okay so here’s where I’m up to.
I paused on my M2H read at daystart, I’m not sure exactly what hit me, I'm still trying to work it out. It feels like what they’re projecting and what they’re actually doing are matching up more. I'm also thinking about their votes end D1. They’re still on my lunch list but not at the top of it (hint: check my vote).
Yeah I'm also inclined to think the caffeine unvote to revote reads pretty naturally. In the absence of any other players voting/pushing/even saying they're intending to vote clarinet (the only people who posted in between were Schia [who was already on the wagon] and Clarinet themselves) I can't imagine caffeine as scum deciding that was the way to go. And it doesn’t seem like some right conditions just emerged there for caffeine to make a predetermined play. Unless perhaps you think Clarinet was absolutely always going to get lynched in that spot at L-3, I don’t see that happening as a fabrication. I think if you imagine it being unlikely as town that someone picks up on that you also gotta think about how likely/unlikely it as scum to design that. Very unlikely I say.
Why I think HeaLnDeaL is scum
1. I guess I never bought their vote on Schia. This line of voting
When Nuxl pushes them on it with respect to why > clarinet/haruno
2. More generally they have been commenting on what’s happening rather then giving actual reads. They have been free to engage in talking about meta generally (not as it applies to this game) and other players posting styles without saying much on whether those things are alignment indicative.
3. Then, this is probably most open to interpretation, I think their absence of engagement, lack of read giving, otherwise non-contribution despite being online close to end d1 - this seems intentional.
After Clarinet claims to have "an important role" and moves the VC to (I think 5 schia 4 clar) - HeaL responds
Their other post in this period:
They’re already on Schia, so they can’t defend Clar by moving to the next biggest wagon. The way I see it, they look like they don't want a clarinet lynch in this spot and are trying not to create a meaningful interaction with Clarinet. That's scummy to me.
Questions:
Post #776 was directed @@ Zaroco in case that wasn't clear
I paused on my M2H read at daystart, I’m not sure exactly what hit me, I'm still trying to work it out. It feels like what they’re projecting and what they’re actually doing are matching up more. I'm also thinking about their votes end D1. They’re still on my lunch list but not at the top of it (hint: check my vote).
Yeah I'm also inclined to think the caffeine unvote to revote reads pretty naturally. In the absence of any other players voting/pushing/even saying they're intending to vote clarinet (the only people who posted in between were Schia [who was already on the wagon] and Clarinet themselves) I can't imagine caffeine as scum deciding that was the way to go. And it doesn’t seem like some right conditions just emerged there for caffeine to make a predetermined play. Unless perhaps you think Clarinet was absolutely always going to get lynched in that spot at L-3, I don’t see that happening as a fabrication. I think if you imagine it being unlikely as town that someone picks up on that you also gotta think about how likely/unlikely it as scum to design that. Very unlikely I say.
Why I think HeaLnDeaL is scum
1. I guess I never bought their vote on Schia. This line of voting
within schia or the person who votes schia seems really scummy to me. I guess from their POV they said schia is null so they could go either way. But to let your vote be shaped in a binary way by what people do on one of your null slots - does not seem town to me.
When Nuxl pushes them on it with respect to why > clarinet/haruno
HeaL doesn't give a proper answer, just references the above quote which doesn't show where they lie on other players in the game, whether or not they thought schia was scummier than clarinet/haruno.
2. More generally they have been commenting on what’s happening rather then giving actual reads. They have been free to engage in talking about meta generally (not as it applies to this game) and other players posting styles without saying much on whether those things are alignment indicative.
3. Then, this is probably most open to interpretation, I think their absence of engagement, lack of read giving, otherwise non-contribution despite being online close to end d1 - this seems intentional.
After Clarinet claims to have "an important role" and moves the VC to (I think 5 schia 4 clar) - HeaL responds
Seems like a lack of commitment to anything here on Clarinet. The slightest shade without doing anything that counts (i.e. voting, giving a read, saying this is bad!, asking a question, etc.).
Their other post in this period:
And then nothing until deadline.
They’re already on Schia, so they can’t defend Clar by moving to the next biggest wagon. The way I see it, they look like they don't want a clarinet lynch in this spot and are trying not to create a meaningful interaction with Clarinet. That's scummy to me.
Questions:
Post #776 was directed @@ Zaroco in case that wasn't clear
- CaffeineBoost - can you flesh out any read of yours?
can you explain this bit to me and how it fits in with your read progression on Caffeine?
very r00d and even more wrong. I ping fenrir to show up, and then his sub immediately guns for me.
Also, you formatted your vote incorrectly and thus it's not being counted, so you might want to fix that.
If you don't know the reasons, then you're not on my trust list, I think a lot of people know what I'm referring.
I'm Pelipper the VT. My role PM was structured very similar to Nuxl's, where it starts with giving me a bunch of description about what I do in the game, only to end it by saying "lewl, in other words you're vanilla" despite literally just telling me I should be like the mailman or something.
This leads me to believe there is a very high percentage of vanillas, and thus mega pokebattler's question pinged me. I think the concentration of vanillas is super high, and if you're not vanilla then you're prolly scum.
This leads me to believe there is a very high percentage of vanillas, and thus mega pokebattler's question pinged me. I think the concentration of vanillas is super high, and if you're not vanilla then you're prolly scum.
My comments in blue.
My last scum game.
1) Regardless of the hammer, he jumped on Schia and Clar without reads. There's no progression to his votes, which is sketch.
2) Do you count fluff in the post ratio? Saying he's done more scumhunting than me is a blatant lie.
I'm catching up, but the tinfoil lobe of my brain has already shown me a few parallels between here and Crisis in CK9++. And not just that Clar got caught D1.
Also excuse you, the goon goes first if I'm scum.
to be fair, we have no idea if there even is a goon.
I'm not super well informed on scum balance though.
Dude, your vote is naked.
no it's not, I bolded it in a new post already
The what it is, if not RVS? Also, yo.
Gimme the read, Broham.