SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

[Worldie]

If Calyrex has 660-680 stat spread I can't see it going to OU. Doubly so for the 720 Horses if that turns out to be what happens

Eh, remember "stat spreads" aren't all. Moveset and abilities have a lot more influence. *looks at Regigigas *
(Expecially considering psy/grass isn't exactly a great typing, nor is any combination of those with ice and ghost at least defensively)

I believe we know nothing of them so far so difficult to know if they will be good pokemon or not.

 

[Zetalz]

As far as typings for the fusions go keep in mind that Calyrex is Psychic/Grass, Psychic being the primary type. If a type change does happen it's likely Grass will be the one kicking the bucket. Another Psychic/Ghost is pretty yawn inducing but the first Ice/Psychic since Jynx is a bit more interesting, I hope it's more physicall oriented to give a different take on the typing

 

[Yung Dramps]

the first Ice/Psychic since Jynx is a bit more interesting

galarian mr mime crying in the club rn

 

[Rarycaris]

Eh, remember "stat spreads" aren't all. Moveset and abilities have a lot more influence. *looks at Regigigas *
(Expecially considering psy/grass isn't exactly a great typing, nor is any combination of those with ice and ghost at least defensively)

I believe we know nothing of them so far so difficult to know if they will be good pokemon or not.

If nothing else, an ice/grass Calyrex theoretically has potential to be a great defensive check to Kyogre.

 

[dodiabla]

What BSTs are you expecting for the Horses/Calyrex? I personally think the horses may have 600 BST and Calyrex has 680

I think Calyrex will have high hp and good special attack/defense, but low speed and middling attack.
The form change will kep the HP & Special Defense, but increase the speed to the horse's (which I think will be High and the same for both). I assume one horse will be phys and the other will be special, so one of the offensive stats will get jacked and the defense stat will also rise.

Or something along those lines

Personally, I think that the horses will come in at a 580 BST...same as the Swords of Justice, Calyrex will be 600 BST, and Calyrex-Steed will be 680 BST.

The Ice Horse reminds me too much of Mudsdale design-wise so I’m expecting it to be slower, physical, but beefy in terms of HP/Attack/Defense.

Ghost horse seems to be more nimble so I’m expecting fast, frail, and special.

Honestly expecting Calyrex to be just ~100 in each stat, Calyrex-Ice Steed to be big on HP, Defense, and Spdef but have lower offenses and speed, and Calyrex-Ghost Steed to be similar to something like Mewtwo-Y: fast, frail, special Attacker

 

[War Incarnate]

oops LOL he's gonna keep crying because I'm gonna forget about him again the moment I post this comment lmao

Mr Rime exists lol

 

[pkmfan]

Any chance we can see moves and the like before release for these new legendary?

 

[Worldie]

Any chance we can see moves and the like before release for these new legendary?

Near 0. It would require an actual file datamine which is impossible UNLESS someone somehow managed to get a hand on the fabled physical release that's supposed to be including all game files from the 2 expansion.

 

[Sirya]

yea, you can say gf lazy, but you cant just completely go off topic to it. this is an datamine thread to talk abt ct datamine, not an trash talking abt gf lazy thread

I didn't go completey off-topic and that's proven by the very fact you just presented: I aluded to the topic. The second part of the message is, in itself, an extension of the first part, and acts as a natural continuation of the same point: the shitty designs (on topic) due to Game Freak lack of interest (extension of the oppinion). So, if it's your plan to analize every commentary posted in this forum to prevent its users from extending their oppinion -while on-topic- or addressing what, in their own arguments, is the reason behind said oppinion, I hope you do well in that nonsense labor.

Now, let's just address the topic. The other users have had enough, and out respect for them, we will keep this private. If you, or more precisely the dude who initially quoted me, want to apologize to me for not only disturbing the meaning of a totally on-topic message, but also doing it with an excesive tone and overly bad manners, feel free to do it using the private mail system.

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If Calyrex has 660-680 stat spread I can't see it going to OU. Doubly so for the 720 Horses if that turns out to be what happens

You can or you can't see it going to OU? To me your comment makes sense if it can. Altho BST is not everything, we have precedents in legendary behemoths like Kyurem, which had the Stats but the combination of it all (typing, offensive pressure, etc) wans't enough to make it shine in its own generation.

 

[R_N]

Near 0. It would require an actual file datamine which is impossible UNLESS someone somehow managed to get a hand on the fabled physical release that's supposed to be including all game files from the 2 expansion.

We've been discussing Home renders for the past like 10 pages so these had to come from SOMEWHERE.

 

[Worldie]

We've been discussing Home renders for the past like 10 pages so these had to come from SOMEWHERE.

Well it's "HOME renders" so I mean, they are likely coming from Home...

My guess is that somehow GF uploaded a earlier part of the Home update (accidentally or tried to sneak it in).

The fact that I do not exclude that the person who's leaking all this might also really have his hands on the phisical release is why i said "near 0" and not "0"

 

[Imperial Magala]

if Calyrex ruled Galar, it makes sense that the cover dogs would be subordinate to it, which has generally been represented with the subordinates having a lower BST.

Has there been any material that directly references or even alludes the Wolves as subordinates to Calyrex? In the main story, the only kings mentioned were the princes who received help from the Wolves, nothing about a higher power. The Crown Tundra is partial based on Scotland, so having an entirely different kingdom that's distinct from mainland Galar isn't out of the question.

 

[R_N]

Well it's "HOME renders" so I mean, they are likely coming from Home...

My guess is that somehow GF uploaded a earlier part of the Home update (accidentally or tried to sneak it in).

The fact that I do not exclude that the person who's leaking all this might also really have his hands on the phisical release is why i said "near 0" and not "0"

Home has (partial) movelists, abilities and BST in its data iirc

So if this is a situation where the data's sitting in Home and someone's digging them out like the move tutor list, hypothetically we could see those things.

If it's a case where someone's just leaking assets they have, well, bummer I guess.

 

[AtlasFlame18]

Idk if this is the appropriate place to discuss this but with the potentiality of Stantler returning (a Pokémon not within the home datamine from months earlier) do you think we may receive more Pokémon than initially expected?

 

[Yung Dramps]

Centro Pokemon also posted a blank model for the ghost horse before deleting it. Be suspicious.

 

[RocketSurgery]

Well it's "HOME renders" so I mean, they are likely coming from Home...

My guess is that somehow GF uploaded a earlier part of the Home update (accidentally or tried to sneak it in).

The fact that I do not exclude that the person who's leaking all this might also really have his hands on the phisical release is why i said "near 0" and not "0"

In the replies to some other tweets CentroPokemon claims they've been aware of the horses & their typings since even before they were datamined, so if they're telling the truth on that point it seems likely that they have a different source. The usual datamining suspects haven't commented on anything, so it doesn't seem like HOME has had a stealth partial update.

 

[kakaks]

I didn't go completey off-topic and that's proven by the very fact you just presented: I aluded to the topic.

in the first half, you aluded to the topic, but not in the second part

The second part of the message is, in itself, an extension of the first part, and acts as a natural continuation of the same point: the shitty designs (on topic) due to Game Freak lack of interest (extension of the oppinion).

aaand you just said "but after all" proceeds to list every thing wrong with swsh.

So, if it's your plan to analize every commentary posted in this forum to prevent its users from extending their oppinion -while on-topic- or addressing what, in their own arguments, is the reason behind said oppinion, I hope you do well in that nonsense labor.

nope, i dont do that, actually, i dont think i ever posted here before. u also werent on topic.

now lets clean this comment, we need an break from this discussion
































much nicer.
i personally think calyrex may have an base stat spread like this: High, low, low but higher than attack, high, average, below ubers standart of 90 spe.
the horses probably raise its speed on the ice one and its attacking stats on the ghost one

 

[R_N]

Idk if this is the appropriate place to discuss this but with the potentiality of Stantler returning (a Pokémon not within the home datamine from months earlier) do you think we may receive more Pokémon than initially expected?

It's always possible (Magearna was, after all, not on the original 4chan leak) but again I have to ask what the context to that Stantler even was. If it was just the host saying they'd like to see Stantler (or just liked the pokemon or whatever) then it doesnt mean anything. If it was saying Stantler is in the game that's bigger news (but also unreported).

The hosts of these shows often dont know everything (or, depending on the context, anything). Pokemon Sunday (or was it Smash at this point) had this whole Sylveon skit to figure out its typing and it was just having a laugh "ah it broke this ice, it must be super effective!" that some people nevertheless got really mad about goofy child's variety show programming LYING to them and being WORTHLESS

 

[PokemonTrainerLui]

My predicted stats for the horses;
Ghost: 60-80 HP, 90-110 Atk, 70-100 Def, 60-100 S.Atk, 70-110 S.Def, 80-120 Speed
Ice: 70-100 HP, 100-120 Atk, 70-100 Def, 60-80 S.Atk, 60-80 S.Def, 70-100 Speed

 

[R_N]

Actually thinkign about the pokenichi clip does anyone like....have a clip of it? I dont see it on youtube just searching for the name (just previews and stuff from last year) so I guess it was from a stream or upload or something. Better to actually see it than base things around one screenshot

 

[Lectrys]

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Ever noticed that this implies that the latest leakers either have a physical copy of the DLC game or merely heard this from other, possibly unreliable sources? (From my experience tracking Magic: the Gathering leaks, I know there's a fair chance that info can be based on earlier, outdated sources or misinterpreted and extrapolated wrong as well as completely made up.)

 

[Zukrad]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't centroPokemon have a reputation for being full of shit?

I don't buy these frankly, not in this bizarre state. Gimme some actual gameplay footage

Centro Pokemon is full of shit a lot of time (Especially on their spanish sites and community, the main admin in particular is an ass), but they do have some people that leak shit to them/ they buy leaks from people for traffic

 

[R_N]

Centro Pokemon is full of shit a lot of time (Especially on their spanish sites and community, the main admin in particular is an ass), but they do have some people that leak shit to them/ they buy leaks from people for traffic

Oh that's delicious since I'm pretty sure the leak got posted in full to 4chan before they started tweeting things out anyway

What a good grift that is on part of the leaker

 

[Balanced Freakmons]

I mean how else would a person riding a horse look like? This ain't the DNA Splicers

Well, what I meant is that they shouldn't do these designs if they wanted fusions. They could easilly go something like a centaur, and that would be an actual fusion.

 

[Deleted User 473037]

the horses look like they are ice and ghost type variants of rapidash.