Can you explain? Why do you disagree?
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NOC 9p Matrix 6 Game Thread [GAME OVER]
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Can you explain? Why do you disagree?
Whydon's playing universally null, so I don't think he's a good vote. I can see the POE perspective but I don't think now is a good time to do that. I think we should focus on getting scum D1. I'm also terrible at this game though so
Are you willing to just lose the game if whydon is mafia?
Please sir, I am not hungry, I cannot possibly handle any more words being put into my mouth.
G2g, back later.
The end of an era.
Jokes aside, idt it's an unfair question.
the last time you mentionned former in a post was thursday.
What are your opinions on his slot as of right now?
Don't hate this though.Whydon's playing universally null, so I don't think he's a good vote. I can see the POE perspective but I don't think now is a good time to do that. I think we should focus on getting scum D1. I'm also terrible at this game though so
I am asking a question not putting words in your mouth it was not rhetorical
Fine. No. There. I'm not willing to lose the game if Whydon is mafia.
Then again, I'd also rather not lose the game if anyone else is mafia. Me not voting Whydon now isn't me thinking that if Whydon is scum we should just lose. Idt it makes sense to vote Whydon, so I'm not voting Whydon.
With that question, there is an implication that not voting Whydon means you want to lose the game in a specific circumstance.
I've found literally nothing concrete, aside from you asking him to catch up like, 4 times
Ok bear with me here there is logic to that question. We are all unwilling to lose if whydon is mafia. The logic is we are going to need to vote him at some point, unless we end the game early through finishing off mafia. Regardless if we get 4 kills throughout the game he will be one of them, whether that be now or later.
If you think like this, town gets 4 kills so we are deciding what are the optimal 4 kills where they will always contain both mafia. If we don't have whydon as number 1, then sure we can wait and let him be 3 or 4 by waiting out and voting more readable people. But here is the thing, he won't play so he will always be one of the 4. Why are we pushing him off and waiting for later rather than voting someone who might redeem themselves and turn out towny d2 or d3. If I thought whydon was going to get active I would say sure let us wait it out, but let's face it we know he won't.
Maybe he will flip town, neither me or schia actually have a read on him, but we know whydon is dying at some point. If he is town it is more recoverable if we kill him early and we know what we are working with now, if he is mafia then he is potentially sending us to lylo or just outright the game losing kill later in the game when we are forced to make him the d3 or d4 kill.
People are gonna say this is scummy and I am trying to force through a whydon kill, but w/e. I don't really want this game to end in lylo coinflip over afk whydon's alignment.
Going to save you the trouble here and say that if all you're seeing is prods, then you're not reading my posts in their entirety, you are not making an effort to read my posts in context of one another, and you're certainly not making an effort to discern intent.
Are your opinions from post 686 still valid?
Back.
He made that exact same question in 8ball with regards to Clar.
Opinion in 686 still stands, yes. I think OM's accusation holds water, inasmuch as Former's response to Tommy's read on him (or more precisely, Tommy's scumpool) uses emotional appeal as a point of departure (in OM's words, guilting Tommy by professing disappointment). He then goes on to prop up Tommy's read as an instance of a more general scum tactic (posing two potential votes as a kind of false dilemma) without actually interrogating the post itself to determine if that is in fact what's happening. Tommy directly calls him out on this, and Former's response is to ask Tommy to provide the reasoning again.
When OM picks up on this, and accuses him of gaslighting, Former is far more preoccupied with picking at the wording and reacting to the pushback he drew (all on his own, mind you) than he is with actually getting caught up with the thread. When I directly asked him to elaborate on two of his reads, his response was riddled with disclaimers. I have absolutely no issues with someone unable to dedicate time to the game for reasons beyond their control--hell, as someone who works ridiculous hours and has mostly only been able to keep up my current activity due to schools being off for the holiday weekend, I'm pretty sympathetic to anyone in that position. But to wield that excuse in the way that Former has after making the kinds of plays Former has is, for me, problematic. It's a means of shirking accountability for flimsy/disingenuous posts, and whether it comes from town or scum, it is not helpful . Without any word on his part concerning, oh idunno, the better part of the game, I'm not willing to commit to a town read: he lives on the ruddier side of null for me. I would not be heartbroken if he were to go today.