Hmm.... Odd, of all things cress did not drop, even as a trick lunar dance on stall, it seems niche as shedinja at the moment. Or has it been getting a lot of traction lately?
I'm also curious on the Tang one now, sorry for asking again just kinda curious. Also why did Rachi rose and why is Celesteela still ranked? Mb for asking too muchI missed a few things in the sheet that have now been added to the drops of the post -- most notably the Hail duo of Arctozolt/Ninetales-Alola dropped from A to A-, Garchomp dropped from A+ to A, Rillaboom dropped from A- to B+, Tangrowth dropped from B+ to B, and Kommo-O dropped from B to B-. I apologize for missing these, I added explanations to those that needed them in the post, I edited in the others, and feel free to ask about any of these as well!
Great question actually!really curious why blacephalon didn't rise?
Cresselia still has the same niche it did before and finds its way onto teams that warrant that type of support -- Lunar Dance, Trick Room, etc. -- so there is really not much of note here in either direction.Hmm.... Odd, of all things cress did not drop, even as a trick lunar dance on stall, it seems niche as shedinja at the moment. Or has it been getting a lot of traction lately?
No worries. As for Cresselia, check the answer above.I'm also curious on the Tang one now, sorry for asking again just kinda curious. Also why did Rachi rose and why is Celesteela still ranked? Mb for asking too much
Garchomp reasoning is in the post, but I still think it is a top 15 Pokemon and could regain A+ status if people find better ways to support the offensive sets, so stay tuned to see how that may develop.Surprised about Garchomp and G-Weezing dropping, personally I would have expected G-Weezing to rise
Been pretty much a staple on recent stall teams.Why the random avalugg rise?
Moltres regular form is a pretty pesky defensive presence with utility options like Defog, U-turn, Mystical Fire, etc. and it does well against a lot of common options like Meletal, Scizor, Volcarona, Rillaboom, etc.Why did both Moltres forms rise? And on that note, is that Avalugg below Nihilego? What's it doing here?
I opened the thread up to questions specifically, not statements of things that are "really hilarious". Please stick to that, thanks.Really hilarious to see that Garchomp of all things dropped and the one of the reasons being Weavile's ice shard when its just a situational check to Chomp. I guess no one really cares to use yache on it. And most of the explained rises doesn't seem too surprising but it's really funny to see when a pokemon rises through the vr ranks and suddenly, the entire tier just completely turns against them
This thread is open specifically to questions, not comments or further nominations. If you feel this way, make the appropriate nominations when the 48 hours are up. Thank you.I think if you're lowering Dracozolt to B- then Exca should also be lowered as in my opinion Exca is the worse of the two Sand Rushers.
Zolt breaks Corv, non SPD Lando, and half the tier on its back and is what makes Sand viable. Not only that but it also is not weak to Priority unlike Exca who loses to basically
every main priority user in the tier.
This is coming from someone who thinks Zolt should be lowered to B- as well. In fact I honestly as a die hard Sand player think Exca and Zolt might only be C+ tier.
My bad. Apologies. But what about the Galarian Moltres rise?Moltres regular form is a pretty pesky defensive presence with utility options like Defog, U-turn, Mystical Fire, etc. and it does well against a lot of common options like Meletal, Scizor, Volcarona, Rillaboom, etc.
My bad. Apologies. But what about the Galarian Moltres rise?
Gastrodon can serve as a check to a plethora of common used Pokemon such as Tapu Koko, Magnezone, Heatran, and Freeze-Dry-less Arctozolt. It can fit well on bulkier teams and has longevity in forme of Recover. Furthermore it can act great as a defensive Pokemon with Scald and Earthquake / Earth Power, which is good coverage by itself and Toxic rounds this set up well. It can also check Giga Drain-less Volcarona, when it decides to run coverage over Safeguard such as Psychic. Storm Drain sets can also check Volcanion pretty well, whereas Sticky Hold can act like a Knock Off absorber, since Knock off is the most common move currently being on Weavile, Landorus-T, Tapu Fini, Tornadus-T, and Zeraora. So its a great pivot to those Pokemon. Gastrodons typing is very valuable with two great abilities, great coverage and longevity in forme of Recover, so it saw a rise.What caused Gastrodon's rise? Like i know its good, especially as a water immunity and rain check on balance and trick counter on stall but is there anything in particular that made it rise?
I completely forgot that sticky hold also negated the boost to Knock off as well, yeah I can see the rise now thanks for explaining it.Gastrodon can serve as a check to a plethora of common used Pokemon such as Tapu Koko, Magnezone, Heatran, and Freeze-Dry-less Arctozolt. It can fit well on bulkier teams and has longevity in forme of Recover. Furthermore it can act great as a defensive Pokemon with Scald and Earthquake / Earth Power, which is good coverage by itself and Toxic rounds this set up well. It can also check Giga Drain-less Volcarona, when it decides to run coverage over Safeguard such as Psychic. Storm Drain sets can also check Volcanion pretty well, whereas Sticky Hold can act like a Knock Off absorber, since Knock off is the most common move currently being on Weavile, Landorus-T, Tapu Fini, Tornadus-T, and Zeraora. So its a great pivot to those Pokemon. Gastrodons typing is very valuable with two great abilities, great coverage and longevity in forme of Recover, so it saw a rise.
What is it about Body Press + colbur slowbro that helped it rise?
It’s C, I just put it in C- by accident whoopsWhy is Avalugg listed as being ranked at C, yet is shown in the OP at C-? Which one is correct?
I was the main advocate of an Aegislash rise and I did put it up for discussion, but it was unanimously voted by the other council members to be kept in B. You can ask anybody else in the VR council for their stance if you’re interested in their reasoning.2) Was their any discussion about Aegislash?
Knock Off does full damage against Sticky Hold users actually. If you're gonna run Sticky Hold on Gastrodon, I'd say the main reason should be its ability to switch into and block Trick from users like Tapu Fini, Clefable, and Blacephalon, which could be problematic for more defensively oriented teams otherwise.I completely forgot that sticky hold also negated the boost to Knock off as well, yeah I can see the rise now thanks for explaining it.