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CAP 2 Smogon's "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 1

What should the base typing of our new Pokemon be?

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I voted for Grass because I haven't seen too many of them in competitive battle except Roserade, Breloom, and Celebi. Correct me if theres more xD
 
Hyra said:
Okay, new Pokemon won out. Here are the percentages and such (bold votes only and counting people who bolded their vote changes):

51 votes - 57.30% New Pokemon
38 votes - 42.70% Evo Pokemon

Clearly, the new Pokemon option wins.
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Good good. That what I wanted xD.

I voted for Ground. Fire would be interesting, but I don't want something else with a stealth rock weakness.
 
The problem with Ghost/Steel is that, defensively it's even better than Ghost/Psychic. Fighting and Bug moves hit Metagross and Bronzong neutral, while our Hypothetical Ghost/Steel is immune to the first and x4 resistant to the second. I don't think we need a better Bronzong or Metagross, personally.

Also, I voted for fighting because it's an interesting type for developing a pokemon concept around. Capoeira pokemon ftw.
 
Viashino_wizard said:
The problem with Ghost/Steel is that, defensively it's even better than Ghost/Psychic. Fighting and Bug moves hit Metagross and Bronzong neutral, while our Hypothetical Ghost/Steel is immune to the first and x4 resistant to the second. I don't think we need a better Bronzong or Metagross, personally.

Also, I voted for fighting because it's an interesting type for developing a pokemon concept around. Capoeira pokemon ftw.
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Ghost/steel is still weak to both fire and ground, which all steels are weak to. just don't give it a trait like levitate or heatproof, thet would make it broken.
its defensive stats don't have to be stellar either. most ghosts have crap HP, so we could balance it that way

But, i'm actually all for making a ghost/fighting pokemon. it would be a killer offensive threat.
 
Hyra said:
I'm gonna do a ten percent floor on this. All options with 10% or less are dropped. We have the survivers poll it out in a shorter poll.

Reason for floor change: 100% / 10 = 10%, not 25%.
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so as of now electric, fighting, ground, rock,poison (lol) and psychic are eliminated, correct? that leaves us with dark, fire, ghost, and grass. how is the secondary poll going to work for clarification? you can only have up to 10 options, and there are 16 possible combinations. eliminating the already used ones, what if there are more than 10? are we going to be able to vote for which ones we definatly dont want to see?
 
i vote electric, if it gets 2 more votes it will be in the next poll, your vote CAN make a diference.

electric is cool defencively, 1 weak 2 resists, and one of the best attacking types. it only has 3 combos so far (zapdos, magne family, lanturn family) lets vote for it.
all other types are asured a place in the next poll (bar maybe dark) or will not get one (bar maybe poison) stop voteing for ghost/fire/grass. please. electric needs your help.
 
tennisace0227 said:
so as of now electric, fighting, ground, rock,poison (lol) and psychic are eliminated, correct? that leaves us with dark, fire, ghost, and grass. how is the secondary poll going to work for clarification? you can only have up to 10 options, and there are 16 possible combinations. eliminating the already used ones, what if there are more than 10? are we going to be able to vote for which ones we definatly dont want to see?
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We do a poll for just Dark/Fire/Ghost/Grass, and for the winner of that we poll on a possible dual type or just a mono type
 
eric the espeon said:
i vote electric, if it gets 2 more votes it will be in the next poll, your vote CAN make a diference.

electric is cool defencively, 1 weak 2 resists, and one of the best attacking types. it only has 3 combos so far (zapdos, magne family, lanturn family) lets vote for it.
all other types are asured a place in the next poll (bar maybe dark) or will not get one (bar maybe poison) stop voteing for ghost/fire/grass. please. electric needs your help.
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If people have to be convinced to vote for electric to get to the next poll, it probably isn't winning the poll. With that said, grass people, vote for electric, we have enough to be guaranteed the spot. Same goes for you ghost and fire. Chose your second favorite type if fire, ghost, or grass is your favorite (or third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, or ninth i suppose, since some types are excluded from the poll lol).
 
Wait wait wait, if we only drop options with 10% or less, we're dropping three out of 10 options. People complained that my program went to long, this is going to take forever!

For you people who complain that pokemon with conflicting type combos can't exist, explain Heatran. You'd think "Oh noes, the Steel type gets hurt by the Fire, so it should lose over 9000% damage every turn (see what I did there?)!" But no, it actually has an ability that gives it a boost when hit with a Fire attack. Similar examples are Jumpluff, Steelix, and Lanturn. And once again, I'll quote Magic: the Gathering.

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Fire tree.
 
I want a steel/ice type like an armored polar bear. :]

Horrible typing though. I already voted for fighting though. Wish I could change it to grass.
 
Yes, that's my point. Tyranitar, Weavile, Scizor, and Heracross are really the only ones that can reliably do it quickly. This Pokemon would join Scizor, though, as one of only durable tankish Pokemon with typing that gives it few weaknesses (Ghost / Fighting) while still taking out BlissCress.

EDIT: I did not include Tyranitar as, while it has durability, it has a crapload of weaknesses.
 
futuresuperstar said:
Yes, that's my point. Tyranitar, Weavile, Scizor, and Heracross are really the only ones that can reliably do it quickly. This Pokemon would join Scizor, though, as one of only durable tankish Pokemon with typing that gives it few weaknesses (Ghost / Fighting) while still taking out BlissCress.

EDIT: I did not include Tyranitar as, while it has durability, it has a crapload of weaknesses.
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well I edited my post to include 8. but ok I see what you mean.
 
futuresuperstar said:
Fun fact about Ghost / Fighting.

It is one of the few Pokemon who could have a chance at breaking Blissey and Cresselia, depending on its spread.
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So could Dark/Fighting.Also Dark and Fighting types traditional have attack stats.Ghost/Fighting type would probably have more versatility with slight chance of it going wrong and being more of a defensive type.
 
Hyra said:
I'm gonna do a ten percent floor on this. All options with 10% or less are dropped. We have the survivers poll it out in a shorter poll.

Reason for floor change: 100% / 10 = 10%, not 25%.
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First time I read this I was like "What?" but now that I think of it more I can see that working.

Hyra said:
Besides that, I'm not an idiot. Levitate/HeatProof are not options for a Steel/Ghost like Magic Guard was not an option for Syclant. Although, with Ghost in the lead, we have the incredibly good options of Ghost/Normal, Ghost/Fight, and Ghost/Steel. It will be fun to see who wins. Also, I think instead of making Ghost/Steel a wall, we should make it similar to Metagross. Much less broken.
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So...if a Ghost/Steel does win out, it more likely turn into an Bulky Sweeper like Metagross?

Also, how bad is a Heatproof Ghost/Steel pokemon really be?
 
dark fighting would actually be a really cool type too :o

Neutral to: (11)
Water, Grass, Steel, Fire, Electric, Poison, Bug, Ground, Ice, Dragon, Normal


weak to: (2)
Flying, Fighting

resists: (2)
Rock, Ghost

4x resists: (1)
Dark


immune to: (1)
Psychic
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ghost fighting has

Neutral to: (9)
Water, Fire, Steel, Grass, Dark, Ground, Electric, Dragon, Ice

Weak to: (3)
Ghost, Flying, Psychic

Resists: (2)
Rock, Poison


4x resists: (1)
Bug


Immune to: (2)
Normal, Fighting
 
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