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[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame as one of its naturally fastest U-turn users, which lets it make the most of forcing out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Heatran with its good coverage. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, entry hazards, and Rocky Helmet damage. Cinderace's Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Draining Kiss and Grass-type moves, and the common Genesect. Its recoil-free Flare Blitz can pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are the main coverage options to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini and Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. However, Court Change is also commonly run over High Jump Kick for team support.

Cinderace's momentum generation makes it a good fit on many teams. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko forcing out checks like Kommo-o and Toxapex. For Zarude and Terrakion, Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, while they can break through Swampert. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon like Choice Specs Azelf or and Sheer Force Genesect to threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos. A strong answer to Barrawskewda such as Tapu Fini is also needed, as it can come on Flare Blitz and threaten a KO. Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the bulk needed to switch in directly multiple times.

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Choice Band
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is an effective fast pivot, which is great in a momentum-dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land Pyro Ball heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. Desolate Land also gives Cinderace a Water immunity and can help it soft check Primordial Sea users. Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire typing. Heavy-Duty Boots is more common to improve Cinderace's role as a fast pivot, but lacks a Choice Banded sets high damage output, and may sometimes miss out on KOs. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini and can fish for poison on switch-ins such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. Court Change provides team support, while High Jump Kick damages Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight and Ferrothorn, which are difficult for Cinderace to break through. Sucker Punch can be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Cinderace can opt for Choice Scarf to outspeed and OHKO common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf and Tapu Koko.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Electric-type Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko to force out most bulky Water-types and Flash Fire users. Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele can force out Kommo-o for it. Desolate Land pairs well with other Water-weak Pokemon, which appreciate being able to switch in without fear of a Water-type move. Cinderace also pairs well with Pokemon such as Terrakion and Zarude, which struggle with Corviknight. Pokemon like Assault Vest Swampert and Blissey can switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as Zapdos, which can force out Cinderace, especially if it's Choice-locked into Pyro Ball. Choice Band sets require good entry hazard removal and other strong pivots to enter safely, as they're susceptible to chip damage through hazards and pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy-Duty Boots sets may lack the damage to break through defensive checks and require offensive support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
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Cinderace does not have many other viable coverage moves, other than the moves listed, but it can run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. It can also run Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight, Dauntless Shield Mew, and Kommo-o. Cinderace can sometimes run a Bulk Up set on more offensive teams to aid itself and its teammates in sweeping through checks. Zen Headbutt can be used on Choice Band sets to break through Toxapex and Kommo-o, but it is otherwise a weak move.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Fire-resistant Pokemon:** Physically defensive Fire-resistant Pokemon such as Swampert, Garchomp, Kommo-o, and Toxapex take very little damage from Cinderace's primary move and can usually force it out.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos can switch in on a predicted Fire-type move, force Cinderace out, and pivot on switch-ins.

**Flash Fire Corviknight**: Flash Fire Corviknight can switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow pivot to a teammate that threatens it.

**Dauntless Shield Users**: Dauntless Shield users such as Mew, Hippowdon, and Kommo-o are able to avoid major damage from Cinderace's attacks, and they can pivot out or set up Stealth Rock on it. However, they all fear Gunk Shot, as it can poison them and wear them down throughout the game.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good Speed tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Examples are Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf, which threaten OHKOs or major damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [Osake, 524664]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [[CryoGyro, 331519]]
 
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DuckeryDoodle said:
[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of that naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such Corviknight and Tapu Fini. Cinderace holds a Life Orb as Magic Guard removes both the recoil from it and the need to run Heavy Duty Boots due to its Rock-type weakness. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip. I would dedicate a full sentence to Flare Blitz; physical Fire STAB is very good in AAA right now, especially pressuring Corv. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini and Tapu Lele or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to live Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. Need to talk about it's checks more, especially Primordial Sea Zapdos. I would also mention that it works best with other pivots, as it has a hard time switching in directly. And its Fire typing makes it a nice offensive check to Triage and Genesect.


[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Choice Band / Choice Scarf / Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Paragraph 1:
- role that the Pokemon plays
- coverage moves that affect its role
- EV spread in one sentence or less

Desolate Land Cinderace, similarly to its MGLO set, don't reference other sets is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land allows Cinderace to psuedo-check Primordial Sea users such as Barraskewda and Zapdos. One imporant advantage that Desolate Land has over Magic Guard is a 50% boost to Cinderace's Fire-type attacks, opposed to the 30% boost from Life Orb, which can then be further boosted by a Choice Band to improve its ability to break defensive pokemon like Swampert. Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, give Cinderace a powerful STAB attack that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy Duty Boots can also be run to improve its role as a fast pivot, while still providing a damage boost to its STAB. Need to talk about its other coverage moves; what does Gunk Shot hit? How do you choose Court Change vs High Jump Kick vs Sucker Punch? Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who it can then OHKO. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to live Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to force a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move. Need to elaborate on team role more. Band needs heavy hazard removal support, works best with other pivots to bring it in, Boots can lack power and needs help breaking through resists. Still a good Triage/Gene soft check

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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List some options for the Pokemon user that are plausible but not always recommended due to either being not consistent enough or too outclassed by other Pokemon in the metagame.

Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to run a Regenerator set with Taunt and Super Fang to stop pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight from Roosting. frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight and Dauntless Shield Mew.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Swampert**: Swampert is problem for Cinderace, as none of Cinderace's attacks can 2HKO Swampert, while Swampert is able to do massive amounts of damage to Cinderace with Flip Turn and Earthquake. Swampert is able to slow-pivot on Cinderace and bring in a another powerful breaker.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Primordial Sea Zapdos are able to switch-in on a predicted Fire-type move, which it is immune to due to their ability. They able both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace out and allowing both to pivot on whatever is switched in.

**Flash-Fire Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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Good start, but not ready to give this QC approval yet. In particular the second paragraph of both sets needs to do a better job describing team role, checks, and good teammates. Let me know when you've had a change to review these suggestions, feel free to reach out with any questions, and I'm confident you'll have this ready for approval soon!
 
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Good start, but not ready to give this QC approval yet. In particular the second paragraph of both sets needs to do a better job describing team role, checks, and good teammates. Let me know when you've had a change to review these suggestions, feel free to reach out with any questions, and I'm confident you'll have this ready for approval soon!
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implemented, thanks for the helpful suggestions
 
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DuckeryDoodle said:
[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of the naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such Corviknight and Tapu Fini. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip. A strong no-drawback fire STAB in Flare Blitz helps Cinderace succeed, as it’s able to pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight and Cobalion not really common. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini and Tapu Lele or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to survive Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon that are able to threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as Cinderace struggles to beat it 1v1 one on one. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the natural bulk needed to switch-in directly multiple times. Cinderace’s Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Fairy and Grass-type moves, as well as offensively checking Genesect, another common Pokemon.

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Choice Band / Choice Scarf / Heavy-Duty Boots I would consider removing Scarf to make the analysis simpler; not a strong recommendation though
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land allows Cinderace to pseudo-check Primordial Sea users such as Barraskewda and Zapdos. you say this again later Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, give which gives Cinderace a powerful STAB attack that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy Duty Boots can also be run to improve its role as a fast pivot without worrying about hazards and allowing it to switch moves, while still providing a damage boost to its STAB. High Jump Kick is frequently run in order to damage Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight or Ferrothorn, who are difficult for Cinderace to break, whereas Court Change is run to help its team deal with hazards that non-boots sets struggle with. would mention Band should not run Court Change, just Boots Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who it can then OHKO. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to live Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to force out a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move. Choice Band sets require good hazard support and other strong pivots in order to bring Cinderace in safely, as it is susceptible to chip through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy Duty Boots sets may sometimes lack the damage needed to break through defensive checks and require additional support in order to make progress. Desolate Land Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire-typing.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to run a Regenerator set with Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight and Dauntless Shield Mew.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Swampert**: Swampert is a problem for Cinderace, as none of Cinderace's attacks can 2HKO Swampert, while Swampert is able to do massive amounts of damage to Cinderace with Flip Turn and Earthquake. Swampert is able to slow-pivot on Cinderace and bring in another powerful breaker.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos are able to switch-in on a predicted Fire-type move. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace out and allowing both to pivot on whatever is switched in.

**Flash-Fire Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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QC 1/2, nice job!
 
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DuckeryDoodle said:
[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of the naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Tapu Fini Heatran you can put something else, but as CInde doesnt kill Fini you cant rly say it forces it out. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip. A strong no-drawback fire STAB in Flare Blitz helps Cinderace succeed, as it’s able to pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini and Tapu Lele just click flare blitz lol or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to survive Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon that are able to threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as Cinderace struggles to beat it one on one. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the natural bulk needed to switch-in directly multiple times. Cinderace’s Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Fairy and Grass-type moves, as well as offensively checking Genesect u should put this in the first part, another common Pokemon. useless

i would mention swampert/pex in this part bc its annoying for this cinde (so you need teammates to break through it)
mention SI to Barras too I think

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Choice Band / Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, which gives Cinderace a powerful STAB attack that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy Duty Boots can also be run to improve its role as a fast pivot without worrying about hazards and allowing it to switch moves. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini, and can fish poison on switchins such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. High Jump Kick is frequently run in order to damage Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight or Ferrothorn, who are difficult for Cinderace to break, whereas Court Change is frequently on Heavy Duty Boot setsrun to help its team deal with hazards that non-boots sets struggle with. Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who it can then OHKO. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight, who are able to live Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break. don't copy sentences for the other set - I know it's kinda the same partners etc, but you need to rephrase it. probably mention that this set relies more on the Fire stab, so it needs teammates that can pass through FF/Psea/Fire resists (already done a bit in the next sentences). you can also mention others counters (kommo) and pokemon that can beat it (yea koko etc)It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to force out a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move. Choice Band sets require good hazard support and other strong pivots in order to bring Cinderace in safely, as it is susceptible to chip through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy Duty Boots sets may sometimes lack the damage needed to break through defensive checks and require additional support in order to make progress. Desolate Land Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire-typing. move it to the 1st part, this is not about teammate

you can mention teammates that appreciate the 'water resist' of cinde, pivots, etc

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
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Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to run a Regenerator set um ive never seen Regen Cinde it looks... bad ? so just mention taunt/super fang on classic sets (good moves tbh) - you can also mention BU sets on Offensive teams (not rly seen but I think its underrated) with Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight and Dauntless Shield Mew. mention kommo for super fang

Checks and Counters
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**Physically Defensive Swampert**: Swampert is a problem for Cinderace, as none of Cinderace's attacks can 2HKO Swampert, while Swampert is able to do massive amounts of damage to Cinderace with Flip Turn and Earthquake. Swampert is able to slow-pivot on Cinderace and bring in another powerful breaker. I would just call it "physical fire resist" and mention swamp/kommo/garchomp/pex

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos are able to switch-in on a predicted Fire-type move. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace out and allowing both to pivot on whatever is switched in.

**Flash-Fire Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace.

Add a part about DS : Mew/Hippo/Kommo (you can mention that it beats the most common DS user, corv, if u want although im not sure if its worth mentioning

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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good job, a few things to improve tho - try to diversify a bit your examples (i.e. no mention of kommo and pex when they are probably the best answers to Cinderace)
 
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DuckeryDoodle said:
[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of the naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Heatran. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip. A strong no-drawback fire STAB in Flare Blitz helps Cinderace succeed, as it’s able to pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. Cinderace’s Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Fairy and Grass-type moves, as well as offensively checking Genesect, another common Pokemon. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten out Pokemon like Flash Fire Corviknight Kommo-o even tho FF corv is annoying for Cinde, HJK does a lot and Kommo is way more annoying imo and Toxapex, who are able to survive Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break, while they are able to break Swampert, another pokemon that gives Cinderace trouble. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon that are able to threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as Cinderace struggles to beat it one on one. A strong answer to Barrawkewda such as Tapu Fini is also needed, as it can come on Flare Blitz and threaten a KO. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the natural bulk needed to switch-in directly multiple times.


[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Choice Band / Heavy-Duty Boots Heavy-Duty Boots / Choice Band as u put Court Change in first, its jure more natural to have HDB in first
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, which gives Cinderace a powerful STAB attack that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy Duty Boots can also be run to improve its role as a fast pivot without worrying about hazards and allowing it to switch moves. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini, and can fish poison on switchins such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. High Jump Kick is frequently run in order to damage Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight or Ferrothorn, who are difficult for Cinderace to break, whereas Court Change is frequently on Heavy Duty Boot setsrun to help its team deal with hazards that non-boots sets struggle with. Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who it can then OHKO. Choice Band sets require good hazard support and other strong pivots in order to bring Cinderace in safely, as it is susceptible to chip through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy Duty Boots sets may sometimes lack the damage needed to break through defensive checks and require additional support in order to make progress. Desolate Land Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire-typing. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Electric-type Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko who can force out most bulky Water-types and Flash-Fire users who are able to tank Cinderace’s powerful Fire-type STAB. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon who can threaten out Kommo-o, such as Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele. Desolate Land Cinderace pairs well with other Fire-type or other Water weak Pokemon, who appreciate being able to safely switch-in without fear of a Water-type move. It also pairs well with Pokemon such as Terrakion and Zarude, who struggle with Corviknight. It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to force out a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to run Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight, (add comma) and Dauntless Shield Mew, and Kommo-o. Cinderace can sometimes run a Bulk Up set on more offensive teams, to help it break through checks to aid itself and its teammates in sweeping. mention Zen Headbutt to pass though Pex/Kommo, but say thats its a weak move only usable on CB

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Fire Resist**: Physically Defensive Fire Resists such as Swampert, Garchomp, Kommo-o, and Toxapex are a problem for Cinderace, as they take very little damage from one of Cinderace’s main selling points, strong Fire-type STAB, and can usually threaten Cinderace out.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos are able to switch-in on a predicted Fire-type move. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace out and allowing both to pivot on whatever is switched in.

**Flash-Fire Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace.

**Dauntless Shield Users**: Dauntless Shield users such as Mew, Hippowdon, and Kommo-o are able to avoid major damage from Cinderace’s attack, and can pivot out or set up Stealth rocks on it. However, they all fear Gunk Shot as it can poison them and wear them down thoughout the game.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [Osake, 524664]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of the naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's as one of its naturally fastest U-turn users, which, paired with its high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Heatran. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, entry hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip damage. A strong no-drawback fire STAB in Flare Blitz helps Cinderace succeed, as it’s able to no-drawback STAB Flare Blitz can pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace the main coverage options to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. Ferrothorn, respectively. However, Court Change is common over High Jump Kick for team support. Cinderace's Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Fairy Draining Kiss and Grass-type moves, as well as offensively checking Genesect, another common Pokemon. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten and Tapu Koko that can force out Pokemon like Kommo-o and Toxapex, who are able to survive which can take Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as For Zarude and Terrakion, Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break through, while they are able to break Swampert, another pokemon that can break through Swampert, which gives Cinderace trouble. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon that are able to like ___ that can (fill in the blank) threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as Cinderace struggles to beat it one on one. it struggles to win one-on-one. A strong answer to Barrawskewda such as Tapu Fini is also needed, as it can come on Flare Blitz and threaten a KO. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the natural bulk needed to switch in (removed hyphen) directly multiple times. (removed extra linebreak under)

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Choice Band
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum-dependent (added hyphen) format such as AAA. Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, which if running Choice Band, gives Cinderace a powerful STAB attack Pyro Ball that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps help it soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy-Duty (added hyphen) Boots can also be run to is more common, though, to improve its role as a fast pivot without worrying about hazards and allowing it to by nullifying entry hazard damage and switch moves. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini (RC) and can fish for poison on switch-ins (added hyphen) such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. High Jump Kick is frequently run in order to damage Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight or Ferrothorn, who are difficult for Cinderace to break, whereas Court Change is frequently on Heavy Duty Boot setsrun to help its team deal with hazards that non-boots sets struggle with. Court Change provides team support, while High Jump Kick damages Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight and Ferrothorn, which are difficult for Cinderace to break through. Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold for a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who and Tapu Koko, which it can then OHKO. Choice Band sets require good hazard support and other strong pivots in order to bring Cinderace in safely, as it is susceptible to chip through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy Duty Boots sets may sometimes lack the damage needed to break through defensive checks and require additional support in order to make progress. Desolate Land Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire-typing. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat. Fire typing.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Electric-type Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko who can to force out most bulky Water-types and Flash-Fire users who are able to Flash Fire users, which can tank Cinderace's powerful Fire-type STAB. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon who can threaten out Kommo-o, such as Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele. Desolate Land Cinderace Pyro Ball. Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele can force out Kommo-o for it. Desolate Land pairs well with other Fire-type or other Water weak Pokemon, who Water-weak Pokemon, which appreciate being able to safely switch in (removed hyphen) without fear of a Water-type move. It Cinderace also pairs well with Pokemon such as Terrakion and Zarude, who which struggle with Corviknight. It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to Pokemon like ___ can (fill in the blank) switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to which can force out a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move. Cinderace, especially if it's Choice locked into Pyro Ball. Choice Band sets require good entry hazard support and other strong pivots to enter safely, as they're susceptible to chip damage through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy-Duty Boots sets may lack the damage to break through defensive checks and require offensive support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to other viable coverage moves, but it can run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to It can also run Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight, Dauntless Shield Mew, and Kommo-o. Cinderace can sometimes run a Bulk Up set on more offensive teams, to help it break through checks to aid itself and its teammates in sweeping through checks. Zen Headbutt can also be used on Choice Band sets to break through Toxapex and Kommo-o, but it is otherwise a weak move.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Fire Resist**: Fire-resistant Pokemon** Physically defensive Fire Resists Fire-resistant Pokemon such as Swampert, Garchomp, Kommo-o, and Toxapex are a problem for Cinderace, as they take very little damage from one of Cinderace’s main selling points, strong Fire-type STAB, and can usually threaten Cinderace out. its primary move and can usually force it out.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos are able to switch-in can switch in on a predicted Fire-type move. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace it out and allowing both to pivot on whatever Pokemon is switched in.

**Flash Fire (removed hyphen) Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to Flash Fire Corviknight can switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace. slow pivot into another wallbreaker that threatens it.

**Dauntless Shield Users**: Dauntless Shield users such as Mew, Hippowdon, and Kommo-o are able to avoid major damage from Cinderace's attacks, and they can pivot out or set up Stealth rocks Rock on it. However, they all fear Gunk Shot, (AC) as it can poison them and wear them down throughout the game.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, Speed tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace. Examples are Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf, which all threaten OHKOs or major chip damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [Osake, 524664]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [ , ]]
(also changed curly apostrophes to straight ones ' )

would like this to have another check, so 1/2
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[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame by being one of the naturally fastest U-turn users in the tier, which, paired with Cinderace's as one of its naturally fastest U-turn users, which, paired with its high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Heatran. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, entry hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip damage. A strong no-drawback fire STAB in Flare Blitz helps Cinderace succeed, as it’s able to no-drawback STAB Flare Blitz can pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are run to allow Cinderace the main coverage options to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini or Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn. Court Change can be run over High Jump Kick to provide hazard support for its team. Ferrothorn, respectively. However, Court Change is common over High Jump Kick for team support. Cinderace's Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Fairy Draining Kiss and Grass-type moves, as well as offensively checking Genesect, another common Pokemon. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat.

Cinderace is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos or Tapu Koko who are able to threaten and Tapu Koko that can force out Pokemon like Kommo-o and Toxapex, who are able to survive which can take Cinderace's attacks well. Cinderace also works well in conjunction with Pokemon such as Zarude or Terrakion, as For Zarude and Terrakion, Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both Zarude and Terrakion struggle to break through, while they are able to break Swampert, another pokemon that can break through Swampert, which gives Cinderace trouble. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon that are able to like ___ that can (fill in the blank) threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as Cinderace struggles to beat it one on one. it struggles to win one-on-one. A strong answer to Barrawskewda such as Tapu Fini is also needed, as it can come on Flare Blitz and threaten a KO. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the natural bulk needed to switch in (removed hyphen) directly multiple times. (removed extra linebreak under)

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Choice Band
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is able to be an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have in a momentum-dependent (added hyphen) format such as AAA. Desolate Land, especially in conjunction with Choice Band, which if running Choice Band, gives Cinderace a powerful STAB attack Pyro Ball that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It also gives Cinderace a Water Immunity and can helps help it soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy-Duty (added hyphen) Boots can also be run to is more common, though, to improve its role as a fast pivot without worrying about hazards and allowing it to by nullifying entry hazard damage and switch moves. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini (RC) and can fish for poison on switch-ins (added hyphen) such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. High Jump Kick is frequently run in order to damage Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight or Ferrothorn, who are difficult for Cinderace to break, whereas Court Change is frequently on Heavy Duty Boot setsrun to help its team deal with hazards that non-boots sets struggle with. Court Change provides team support, while High Jump Kick damages Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight and Ferrothorn, which are difficult for Cinderace to break through. Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt to hold for a Choice Scarf to outspeed common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf or Tapu Koko, who and Tapu Koko, which it can then OHKO. Choice Band sets require good hazard support and other strong pivots in order to bring Cinderace in safely, as it is susceptible to chip through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy Duty Boots sets may sometimes lack the damage needed to break through defensive checks and require additional support in order to make progress. Desolate Land Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire-typing. A Jolly nature is used to take advantage of Cinderace's high base Speed stat. Fire typing.

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Electric-type Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko who can to force out most bulky Water-types and Flash-Fire users who are able to Flash Fire users, which can tank Cinderace's powerful Fire-type STAB. Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon who can threaten out Kommo-o, such as Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele. Desolate Land Cinderace Pyro Ball. Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele can force out Kommo-o for it. Desolate Land pairs well with other Fire-type or other Water weak Pokemon, who Water-weak Pokemon, which appreciate being able to safely switch in (removed hyphen) without fear of a Water-type move. It Cinderace also pairs well with Pokemon such as Terrakion and Zarude, who which struggle with Corviknight. It also appreciates Pokemon that are able to Pokemon like ___ can (fill in the blank) switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, who are able to which can force out a Cinderace Choice locked into a Fire-type move. Cinderace, especially if it's Choice locked into Pyro Ball. Choice Band sets require good entry hazard support and other strong pivots to enter safely, as they're susceptible to chip damage through hazards or pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy-Duty Boots sets may lack the damage to break through defensive checks and require offensive support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Cinderace does not have many coverage moves that it can viably run, but it can opt to other viable coverage moves, but it can run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. Cinderace is also able to It can also run Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight, Dauntless Shield Mew, and Kommo-o. Cinderace can sometimes run a Bulk Up set on more offensive teams, to help it break through checks to aid itself and its teammates in sweeping through checks. Zen Headbutt can also be used on Choice Band sets to break through Toxapex and Kommo-o, but it is otherwise a weak move.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Fire Resist**: Fire-resistant Pokemon** Physically defensive Fire Resists Fire-resistant Pokemon such as Swampert, Garchomp, Kommo-o, and Toxapex are a problem for Cinderace, as they take very little damage from one of Cinderace’s main selling points, strong Fire-type STAB, and can usually threaten Cinderace out. its primary move and can usually force it out.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos are able to switch-in can switch in on a predicted Fire-type move. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing Cinderace it out and allowing both to pivot on whatever Pokemon is switched in.

**Flash Fire (removed hyphen) Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash-Fire Coviknight is able to Flash Fire Corviknight can switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow-pivot out into another breaker that threatens Cinderace. slow pivot into another wallbreaker that threatens it.

**Dauntless Shield Users**: Dauntless Shield users such as Mew, Hippowdon, and Kommo-o are able to avoid major damage from Cinderace's attacks, and they can pivot out or set up Stealth rocks Rock on it. However, they all fear Gunk Shot, (AC) as it can poison them and wear them down throughout the game.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good speed-tier, Speed tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Pokemon such as Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf are able to outspend Cinderace and threaten OHKOs or major chip on Cinderace. Examples are Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf, which all threaten OHKOs or major chip damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [Osake, 524664]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [ , ]]
(also changed curly apostrophes to straight ones ' )

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[SET]
name: Magic Guard Pivot
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Magic Guard
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Cinderace finds a niche in the AAA metagame as one of its naturally fastest U-turn users, which, (comma) paired with its high Attack stat and good movepool, allows Cinderace to force lets it make the most of forcing out common Pokemon such as Corviknight and Heatran with its good coverage. Life Orb and Magic Guard allow Cinderace to hit hard while avoiding recoil, entry hazards, and Rocky Helmet chip damage. A no-drawback STAB Its recoil-free Flare Blitz can pressure common defensive Pokemon such as Corviknight. Gunk Shot and High Jump Kick are the main coverage options to threaten Fairy-types such as Tapu Fini or and Flash Fire Steel-types such as Ferrothorn, respectively. However, Court Change is common over High Jump Kick for team support. (this is written like high jump kick is the main option, especially with heatran in the opening sentence, could use some elaboration) Cinderace's Fire typing allows it to offensively check Triage Pokemon, as it resists Draining Kiss and Grass-type moves, as well as checking Genesect, another common Pokemon and the common Genesect. (this should be before moves, not after)

Cinderace's momentum generation makes it a good fit on many teams is able to fit on many different types of teams due its good offensive movepool and ability to gain momentum for its team. (i didn't see how a good movepool correlates to wide usability) It appreciates Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko that can force out Pokemon forcing out checks like Kommo-o and Toxapex, which can take Cinderace's attacks well. For Zarude and Terrakion, Cinderace is able to deal with Corviknight, a Pokemon that both struggle to break through, while they can break through Swampert, which gives Cinderace trouble. (we don't really need to spell it out, these are intuitive checks) Cinderace also appreciates Pokemon like Choice Specs Azelf or and Sheer Force Genesect that can threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos, as it struggles to win one-on-one to threaten Primordial Sea Zapdos. A strong answer to Barrawskewda such as Tapu Fini is also needed, as it can come on Flare Blitz and threaten a KO. In addition, Cinderace works well on teams with multiple pivots, as it lacks the bulk needed to switch in directly multiple times.

[SET]
name: Desolate Land Pivot
move 1: Pyro Ball
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Gunk Shot
move 4: Court Change / High Jump Kick / Sucker Punch
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Choice Band
ability: Desolate Land
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Desolate Land Cinderace is an effective fast pivot, a great trait to have which is great in a momentum-dependent format such as AAA. Desolate Land, especially if running Choice Band, gives Cinderace a powerful STAB Pyro Ball that heavily damages even resistant foes like Tapu Fini and Swampert. It Desolate Land also gives Cinderace a Water immunity and can help it soft check Primordial Sea users. Heavy-Duty Boots is more common, (comma) though, to improve its Cinderace's role as a fast pivot (put a proper explanation for band here) by nullifying entry hazard damage and switch moves. Gunk Shot heavily damages Tapu Fini and can fish for poison on switch-ins such as Dauntless Shield Kommo-o. Court Change provides team support, while High Jump Kick damages Pokemon such as Flash Fire Corviknight and Ferrothorn, which are difficult for Cinderace to break through. Sucker Punch can also be run to KO weakened faster threats such as Barraskewda. Likewise, Cinderace can opt for a Choice Scarf to outspeed and OHKO common Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Azelf and Tapu Koko, which it can then OHKO. Cinderace is also able to offensively check many Triage users and Genesect due to its Fire typing. (again, doesn't make sense at the end)

Desolate Land Cinderace appreciates Electric-type Pokemon such as Zapdos and Tapu Koko to force out most bulky Water-types and Flash Fire users, which can tank Cinderace's powerful Pyro Ball. Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele can force out Kommo-o for it. Desolate Land pairs well with other Water-weak Pokemon, which appreciate being able to safely switch in without fear of a Water-type move. Cinderace also pairs well with Pokemon such as Terrakion and Zarude, which struggle with Corviknight. Pokemon like Assault Vest Swampert and Blissey can switch in on slower Primordial Sea users such as a Zapdos, which can force out Cinderace, especially if it's Choice-locked into Pyro Ball. Choice Band sets require good entry hazard support removal and other strong pivots to enter safely, as they're susceptible to chip damage through hazards or and pivoting moves from defensive Pokemon. In contrast, Heavy-Duty Boots sets may lack the damage to break through defensive checks and require offensive support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Cinderace does not have many other viable coverage moves, (so is its offensive movepool even good?) but it can run Tinted Lens over Desolate Land in order to break through checks such as Swampert. It can also run Taunt and Super Fang to frustrate defensive checks it normally does not beat like Flash Fire Corviknight, Dauntless Shield Mew, and Kommo-o. Cinderace can sometimes run a Bulk Up set on more offensive teams to aid itself and its teammates in sweeping through checks. Zen Headbutt can also be used on Choice Band sets to break through Toxapex and Kommo-o, but it is otherwise a weak move.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physically Defensive Fire-resistant Pokemon:** Physically defensive Fire-resistant Pokemon such as Swampert, Garchomp, Kommo-o, and Toxapex are a problem for Cinderace, as they take very little damage from its Cinderace's primary move and can usually force it out.

**Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos**: Primordial Sea Barraskewda and Zapdos can switch in on a predicted Fire-type move, (comma) force Cinderace out, and pivot on switch-ins. They are both able to threaten an OHKO on Cinderace, forcing it out and allowing both to pivot on whatever Pokemon is switched in.

**Flash Fire Corviknight**: Similarly to Swampert, Flash Fire Corviknight can switch into all of Cinderace's attacks and slow pivot into another wall breaker a teammate that threatens it.

**Dauntless Shield Users**: Dauntless Shield users such as Mew, Hippowdon, and Kommo-o are able to avoid major damage from Cinderace's attacks, and they can pivot out or set up Stealth Rock on it. However, they all fear Gunk Shot, as it can poison them and wear them down throughout the game.

**Faster Offensive Pokemon**: While Cinderace has a very good Speed tier, there are still faster offensive Pokemon that are able to force it out. Examples are Talonflame, Tapu Koko, and Choice Scarf Azelf, which all threaten OHKOs or major chip damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DuckeryDoodle, 525446]]
- Quality checked by: [[UT, 523866], [Osake, 524664]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [ x ]]
 
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