NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

CaffeineBoost said:
The reason I grouped M2H and Sam together was because they seemed to have the same opinion. It was a case of people who think "it's M2H" and people who think "it's Texas". I get that they haven't been buddying each other throughout the game, they just have more or less the same views from what I can tell.

Idt Texas and Celever have been all buddy buddy w/ each other either, they just share the same viewpoint afair and fall into the former (not that one) camp I described earlier.
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This makes sense though I think I'm potentially being naive bc I find myself agreeing with a lot of posts so far this game LOL

I'm not sure this fully explains you setting up the dichotomy you did. Like it wasn't a dichotomy of wagons (M2H or Texas) but rather a dichotomy of 2 pairs of players. If M2H pushed Texas first and vice versa, including myself and Sam feels like drawing in crossfire
 
Celever said:
This makes sense though I think I'm potentially being naive bc I find myself agreeing with a lot of posts so far this game LOL

I'm not sure this fully explains you setting up the dichotomy you did. Like it wasn't a dichotomy of wagons (M2H or Texas) but rather a dichotomy of 2 pairs of players. If M2H pushed Texas first and vice versa, including myself and Sam feels like drawing in crossfire
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I'm not sure how I can really respond to this, I just posted how I felt at the time. I get that M2H and Sam aren't really aligned (terrible choice of word) on all their views but they seemed to me to be the biggest pushers of the "it's Texas" viewpoint and it was that argument which was driving me mad like a drunk in a formula 1 car.
 
Celever said:
#2,318? It might but more detail on the specific highlighted players could be nice in particular whether your view on Clouds changed after our brief chat about it (fine if it didn't but that's an enigmatic position atm)

Also bc I didn't properly read that before I think, I'm interested if you still think M2H and Caffeine aren't scum together
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vizh im coming down on bc his posts fucking suck in almost a nai way, but i also don’t see agenda rn

clouds I still have a bit of bad feelings about since the things he say make, like too much sense in context of thread narrative for a first time player but it’s also absent from his scumhunting? Not as strongly as this as before since I think I’m being swayed by thread but imo we can expect the scum team to have more people than average and if it’s active i think narratively the things he say make sense w exp players with him. drop the read if the team is mostly inexp

Shadowpea looks ok too: in context of below

Don’t super have strong thoughts about everyone else but take care of in general people are AFRAID to post. This isn’t like tonal nervousness, this is timing w in thread behavior, content, and their read directions when it comes to when and how they post. I really haven’t gotten a gleam on it because most new people haven’t posted substantially so far but I haven’t gotten the same vibe that other people have on some slots - but ofc ig this is just how I’m viewing it.
 
link to last votecount

Day 2 Final Votecount
Sificon (10): UncleSam, shadowpea, M2H (2), RyoDio, Haruno, Da Letter El, Nuxl, Clouds, Texas Cloverleaf
Celever (1): realiti
Clouds (1): Laurel
Dyo (1): Whydon
Laurel (1): Spiderz
Spiderz (1): Ayia

Not Voting (8): CaffeineBoost, dave, Drookez, Dyo, Sificon, Vizh, Psypsypsypsypsythe, Celever
 
Sificon has died, apologies for all the messiness with this slot today.

You are Floptina, fifteenth place.

You are chaotic but loyal, staying true to yourself and your allies to the end and past it. You remember when people do wrong by you, but when they do right by you also and repay that in kind. Who will you pick this time?

I Want to Vote This: At night, pick a player who is in the 3 lowest posters in the game. They will be primed.

Goodbye: Snap your finger, oops they are all dead. Anyone you have primed will die and be vanished out of existence. This means they will not flip. Cannot be used the same night as I want to Vote This.

Keeping Score: You gain 2 points for every kill you get from Goodbye. You gain 1 point every time you end the day phase on a successful mafia flip. Keeping score is strongman godfathered ninjaed hidden. This means very little I am just dropping a lot of buzzwords to say that Keeping Score will never be detected by an info role.

You are third party arsonist, and therefore align with neither town or mafia. You win the game when you accumulate 6 points.
 
Along with this: The tribe has been split into two

YOU MAY NOT TARGET OR SPEAK TO ANYONE NOT IN YOUR TRIBE FOR THIS NIGHT PHASE

Loyalist:
Ayia
CaffeineBoost
Celever
Clouds
Da Letter El
Dave
Drookez
Dyo
Haruno
M2H
Laurel

Separatist:
Nuxl
Psypsypsypsypsythe
Realiti
Ryo
Shadowpea
Spiderz
Texas Cloverleaf
UncleSam + Yeti (Hydra, they will be treated as one player)
Vizh
Whydon

-This includes all forms of communication.
- If a player is redirected to someone else on another list, the action can succeed. If the player themself targets, it will fail unless they for some reason can ignore the disruption.

Deadline:
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/birthday?iso=20220122T21&p0=78&msg=Deadline&font=cursive&csz=1
 
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Haruno has died.

You are Alimdia, twentieth place.

You were a huge threat and one of the best survivor players in the game. You got a bit swap fucked against a strong pregame faction, which along with your threat level screwed you. Similar circumstance to the other twentieth place, Flare.

Anti Pregame Faction Fuckery Swapping to Enable us to Rise Up and Mess with their Plans in a Chaotic Manner: Your ability is tied to the person with the Flare role, who you know exists. Whoever you target will have all actions targeting them swapped with all actions targeting the person Flare uses this ability on.

If you target the Flare role ever, you will perform your action as usual but also create a pm channel with them, where you can full time message outside of thread.

If the Flare role dies, you inherit their ability. This means you can double target and swap the actions on two different targets yourself.

You are town, you win when all threats to town have been eliminated from the game.
 
This kill does give us a group wherein we know with virtual certainty has a mafia role in it.

me / ayia / caffeineboost / celever / clouds / dle / Dave / droolez / dyo / laurel

the trigger an is almost certainly within these names. The only other possibility is a role redirection role which would be a stretch.

kinda curious how the mafia team chose who should make the kill (assuming that they were split up)
 
I’m assuming the only way that kills could go from one group to the other would be through Haruno/Texas’ ability and I don’t really see the possibility for Haruno to self-target (ie; Texas targets Nuxl, Haruno self-targets, Mafia kills Nuxl) and have that explain the night kill. I do think my previous point about the groups is airtight in that case, it still doesn’t narrow the game down all that much in its own.
 
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