NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

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Nuxl said:
shadowpea Vizh how are you guys feeling? what's your take on the thread and a vote placement - feels like you guys just popped in to watch
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Sorry, we’re celebrating my dad’s birthday today, so I’ll be less active in the thread.

I’m leaning a little more towards Scumreading Dyo more than initially taking in the tribe thing and the RoleCop being AI apparently, it just seems like suspicion from the way he’s speaking combined with the way the game mechanics seem to be shaking out, has me leaning on him.

Ryo I’m a little suspicious of, just because I think while Celever has a few judgments I don’t fully agree with, I still think Celever is Town, but I see Ryo’s point in a weird way but it’s something I wanted to note.

I’m just catching up on the thread for now but if I see something then I’ll post it
 
The way things played out honestly make me think

Texas (d1) kinda openscumming -> (late d1) gets caught to some degree -> kills authoritative person with a scum read on them (n1) -> goes back to coasting/low efforting (early d2) -> still getting pressured (d2) -> shifts to attempting powerscumming (late d2) -> fails to vote me, so compromises -> kills 'mason' to validate claim (n3) -> still attempting powerscumming (d3).
 
Vizh said:
Sam is

Sorry, we’re celebrating my dad’s birthday today, so I’ll be less active in the thread.

I’m leaning a little more towards Scumreading Dyo more than initially taking in the tribe thing and the RoleCop being AI apparently, it just seems like suspicion from the way he’s speaking combined with the way the game mechanics seem to be shaking out, has me leaning on him.

Ryo I’m a little suspicious of, just because I think while Celever has a few judgments I don’t fully agree with, I still think Celever is Town, but I see Ryo’s point in a weird way but it’s something I wanted to note.

I’m just catching up on the thread for now but if I see something then I’ll post it
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I don't think you're voting anyone yet, so once you're caught up I'm eager to see who you end up voting!

Hope your Dad's having a cool bday
 
Celever said:
if it helps I have legit never played with hal before lol, if you're saying someone advised that hal is a towngod so has to be killed my only relationship with that info is what hal himself said itg

(this is where you dig up a game from years ago that I have no memory of where I did play with hal >_>)
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I will not put in that effort or analyze past games, i am just going off memory.

Do you think texas is town?
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
this is going nowhere either you're lying scum or you have some town pr that the role cop can confirm or you're s/s with the role cop, i'm happy to flip you today and if we have to sort you out tomorrow instead than so be it
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So you're willing to vote me today (regardless of my flavor claim and PR claim), when admittedly waiting until tomorrow would provide you with more information (interactions with dyo). Honestly kind of a lazy maneuver that gives you a blank check to not make any other push today.
 
M2H said:
The way things played out honestly make me think

Texas (d1) kinda openscumming -> (late d1) gets caught to some degree -> kills authoritative person with a scum read on them (n1) -> goes back to coasting/low efforting (early d2) -> still getting pressured (d2) -> shifts to attempting powerscumming (late d2) -> fails to vote me, so compromises -> kills 'mason' to validate claim (n3) -> still attempting powerscumming (d3).
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besides texas who else do you scumread and from 1-100 how sure are you that texas is scum?
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
shadowpea gonna respond to my questions?
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multitasking with math hw and then history
and yes
shadowpea said:
With dave hes not my “strongest” scumread but my “stronger” ones like dle laurel and texas i can see them as town. Texas is contributing and also apparently mason at this point (at this point hes not even much of a sr anymore but w/e), dle’s d1 honestly isn’t that bad and some of his posts give me little bits of good vibes, and laurel i can see them as bored townie that doesnt care about shit. With dave i really struggle to see him as town as none of his messages gives me great vibes. Hes just kinda…throwing thoughts and a couple of susses out there without giving a reason why. So really you could say daves my strongest sr rn as hes my most confident one
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shadowpea said:
for one hes not new so id thought hed go more in depth but he was literallly like "caff/spiderz overcompensating as town fodder" and similar and then refused to elaborate. despite some othe people this applies to he actually posted quite a bit but none of them bothered to explain anything. and i definately isnt getting a "bored town idc about this" vibe from him like im getting from laurel and pre-6pm texas.
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my thoughts on dave. i guess tone and vibe are the same things ig

with realiti hes playing really idk how to put it. stupidly? in any case i feel that the way he plays he really countributing waaay too little. he cycles between discussion/interactions and sitting on his ass/making neutral offhand comments. ik most would call him scum but hes so low-effort that its kinda hard for me to see him as scum. giving me a bored townie vibe. and his vibe/tone/whatev you wanna call is strikes me as town too
realiti said:
I would be trying harder if I were mafia to not let down my teammates, based on my effort level you can infer that I am town, you can obviously say "oh he can just be saying this to defend his behavior" but this is the truth, 22p is exhausting and I feel like if I post I am going to get ten million questions from celever/caffbo/m2h which will clutter the thread.
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basically this. and i believe it
 
distinction between him and dave is tone/vibe and that dave looked like he was trying to look like hes contributing and saying something then just gave up. realiti for the most part back up his reasonings and stuff while dave just threw things out there d1 then dipped.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
i'm fine moving somewhere else for now anyway this isn't productive anymore, where do you want to look
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I mean I think it still makes sense to focus on the tribe we know def has at least one scum on it and atp that is prob Ayia/Laurel/Dyo

Though I like shadowpea introducing dave back into the convo so add him to the list

Also Drookez I suppose bc you pointed out gift giver scum potentiality and I think I agree that this is feasible, especially him offering the role so openly it legit could just be that someone told him it's a towny role and he should pubclaim it
 
yeah i remember one game i played on mafiascum, might haave been my second or third time there, there was a few different jack of all trades roles on the scum team and one of the roles was the scum fruit vendor, i dont remember if it was my role or one of my partners in that games but i remember we used it to try and build credibility with a townie over time since the role itself doesnt do anything except self-confirm its existence
 
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