NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

Spiderz said:
Literally it felt like none of his pushes has had any actual analysis or solving to back it up and yet he is so stagnant and confident in his pushed which weirds me out because I have no clue where he’s getting that confidence from, like I barely see him analyze any real posts beyond a simple one liner or asking people random questions
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Yea I’ll sheep Spiderz on this one until something better comes up, especially because I rlly don’t want Dyo gone rn (even though I also am guilty of everything mentioned)

Vote Laurel
 
Vizh said:
Sam is

Sorry, we’re celebrating my dad’s birthday today, so I’ll be less active in the thread.

I’m leaning a little more towards Scumreading Dyo more than initially taking in the tribe thing and the RoleCop being AI apparently, it just seems like suspicion from the way he’s speaking combined with the way the game mechanics seem to be shaking out, has me leaning on him.

Ryo I’m a little suspicious of, just because I think while Celever has a few judgments I don’t fully agree with, I still think Celever is Town, but I see Ryo’s point in a weird way but it’s something I wanted to note.

I’m just catching up on the thread for now but if I see something then I’ll post it
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Also I ignored this but coming back to it, you’re sus of me for susing Celever? Even though when I did it I wasn’t even referring to the “bad long post” as the main point + a lot of people actually did sus him out for specifically that lmao.

I hope you realize that a lot of ppl seem to think you’re inexperienced scum and if you actually are it at least to me it seems you’re going “Ryo is largely considered neutral and is a less active poster so maybe I can gain traction on a Ryo push if I say he’s sus pretend to like Celever[who probably is town in this scenario]” (in which you liking Celever to the point of sussing him is largely an unexplained development unless there’s something I haven’t seen)
 
RyoDio said:
Also I ignored this but coming back to it, you’re sus of me for susing Celever? Even though when I did it I wasn’t even referring to the “bad long post” as the main point + a lot of people actually did sus him out for specifically that lmao.

I hope you realize that a lot of ppl seem to think you’re inexperienced scum and if you actually are it at least to me it seems you’re going “Ryo is largely considered neutral and is a less active poster so maybe I can gain traction on a Ryo push if I say he’s sus pretend to like Celever[who probably is town in this scenario]” (in which you liking Celever to the point of sussing him is largely an unexplained development unless there’s something I haven’t seen)
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I fucked up in typing this

*I hope you realize that a lot of ppl seem to think you’re inexperienced scum and if you actually are it at least to me it seems you’re going “Ryo is largely considered neutral and is a less active poster so maybe I can gain traction on a Ryo push if I say he’s sus and I pretend to like Celever[who probably is town in this scenario]” (in which you liking Celever to the point of sussing people for sussing him is largely an unexplained development unless there’s something I haven’t seen)
 
RyoDio said:
Also I ignored this but coming back to it, you’re sus of me for susing Celever? Even though when I did it I wasn’t even referring to the “bad long post” as the main point + a lot of people actually did sus him out for specifically that lmao.

I hope you realize that a lot of ppl seem to think you’re inexperienced scum and if you actually are it at least to me it seems you’re going “Ryo is largely considered neutral and is a less active poster so maybe I can gain traction on a Ryo push if I say he’s sus pretend to like Celever[who probably is town in this scenario]” (in which you liking Celever to the point of sussing him is largely an unexplained development unless there’s something I haven’t seen)
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Not necessarily for sussing Celever, but it to me seemingly coming out of nowhere. I haven't like searched through your posts it was just something I noted while going through the thread.

Also I'm just, not pushing you as a vote at all. The kill was on the other tribe and you couldn't have done it if I remember correctly.
 
RyoDio said:
Also I ignored this but coming back to it, you’re sus of me for susing Celever? Even though when I did it I wasn’t even referring to the “bad long post” as the main point + a lot of people actually did sus him out for specifically that lmao.

I hope you realize that a lot of ppl seem to think you’re inexperienced scum and if you actually are it at least to me it seems you’re going “Ryo is largely considered neutral and is a less active poster so maybe I can gain traction on a Ryo push if I say he’s sus pretend to like Celever[who probably is town in this scenario]” (in which you liking Celever to the point of sussing him is largely an unexplained development unless there’s something I haven’t seen)
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only one person i believe called vizh scum lol
 
Spiderz said:
Literally it felt like none of his pushes has had any actual analysis or solving to back it up and yet he is so stagnant and confident in his pushed which weirds me out because I have no clue where he’s getting that confidence from, like I barely see him analyze any real posts beyond a simple one liner or asking people random questions
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its how i play the game you can look at any other thread. I typically live to the end and win on LYLO or MYLO for town… it’s like 6/7 games straight at this point.
 
Celever said:
Anyway here's what I wanted to look at and I'm caught up

Boys girls and enbies, for my performance tonight I will be ISOing Laurel, more specifically who he has bothered to talk about or mention at all:
Final tally:
Town Read:
Haruno I
M2H I
Caff II
Clouds I

Scum Read:
Eli IIII
realiti II
Sam IIII
Texas IIII
DLE IIII
Cel III
shadowpea I
M2H I
Dyo I

Note the absolute lack of progression. M2H had an early tr and a late sr and they are literally the only person to appear in both lists, and only once. Eli was shaded from the start of D1 and that has continued. Caff and Clouds were towny in RVS in their view and still are just town, when they've had a v rocky path through this game with a lot of town and scum cred at various points. He threw one Haruno tr and now Haruno is dead. Beyond that, Laurel has only scumread, basically saying no one is town.

realiti seemed to be a top scumread and now he's completely dropped that. Not saying he changed his mind, just ignoring his existence

Almost all of his reads involve more active players and he's never commented on others. shadowpea he scumread toward EoD2 but that's it and he didn't provide reasoning, and Dyo he only scumread through Spiderz.

Speaking of, Spiderz is by far and away one of the most active players this game and he was just, never mentioned or read by Laurel? Which is weird considering Laurel's complete focus on active players.

Laurel's brought up DLE as a scumread frequently with basically no reasoning, and DLE has literally not been here so what's up with that

For posterity:
Never mentioned:
Ayia
Dave
Drookez
Psy
Ryo
Vizh

Whydon has been interacted with but totally NAI-ly

This is not a player trying to solve this game. And for posterity this ISO revealed something interesting af. Remember when I referenced that someone said Haruno should be killed tonight bc of 3p potentiality and sorta just assumed that was me? Acc no, it was Laurel:

Vote Laurel

Paranoid maf scared of 3p win taking out Haruno theory tick

I understand the timing of this is OMGUS but imma be real I think this is consistent with prior reads. Laurel has sucked since gamestart

And me typing that sentence has just made me realise it's even weirder that Laurel has never responded to Spiderz really. Spiderz has said Laurel has been scummy more than anyone else and there was never an exchange? Honestly if Laurel is scum it implicates Spiderz a fair bit, which hurts me to say bc Spiderz has been great this game I'm a huge fan of his work
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i was typing up a response to this earlier but the main thing is that idt this is the case to really do it because it’s not like laurels posts are scummy just bc they lack content or are inconsistent. they sometimes just don’t make sense or are hella over exaggerated. it’s hard for me to really read into it bc his iso looks like he’s skipping every other post lmfao and i don’t really have a good meta read on him

tho it kinda looks like u added on again the thing that i said earlier w ur other post w the nk being commandeered by one person esp for a theory like “he thought they were a 3p” when we again don’t know if that’s true w the split
 
M2H said:
tbh idk at this stage but I also feel like Texas is a slot I'm always going to be paranoid about considering how the game has progressed.
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M2H said:
tbh idk at this stage but I also feel like Texas is a slot I'm always going to be paranoid about considering how the game has progressed.
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im literally shivering in my bed right now but the confrontation and rage seemed particularly unusual from what i remember from his scum game

tho tbh still can’t really see why he’s not townreading me since i feel like im an easy read to him
 
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