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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Discussion #2 (spoilers)

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Some other things about brawl

Forgive any typos, my keyboard is absolutely retarded today...

I still have a few questions about brawl now that everyone has calmed down about all of the charictor stuff.

1) How do you actually unlock all of these charictors? Are they in adventure mode, classic mode, stadium, or what?

2) So, for the classic mode, how has master hand changed? Is he different at all or is he the same giant hand he was in Melee? And does anyone know if crazy hand is back?

3) I'd think that with all of this extras such as my music and a coarse designer, they might remember my favorite of the minigames. Is "Board the platforms" back or is it gone once again?

4) What are some of the trouphy's that brawl has?

5) What is with all of the power ups sticker give you? Like the mgic stickers and such.

EDIT: thanks hot garbage. but for the lst one, I was asking who gets the sticker power boost from certain sticker?
 
TheMantyke: They could possibly be unlocked through playing SSE. My guess is that a handful will since Sakurai put a lot of effort into SSE, and would want people to feel rewarded while playing it (although the experience is rewarding enough).
 
Omigosh so many spoilers I think I'm gonna explode! >:OOO

Omigosh! Dark Zelda! Yay me!

But where's Krystal... she must be pretty hard to unlock!

OMG MARTH IS SO HOT! I'm gonna play him for sure! Fire Emblem is saved!

And why is there that stupid robot thing! Eww!

Lucas is cute in a baby way!
 
Kristy Haruka said:
Omigosh so many spoilers I think I'm gonna explode! >:OOO

Omigosh! Dark Zelda! Yay me!

But where's Krystal... she must be pretty hard to unlock!

OMG MARTH IS SO HOT! I'm gonna play him for sure! Fire Emblem is saved!

And why is there that stupid robot thing! Eww!

Lucas is cute in a baby way!
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Supposedly, Wolf is the last rep, not Krystal ... and I personally think that Marth looks much less masculine in Brawl >_>

ROB is there to pay homage to retro things and take up a character slot.
 
Wish there was a scene in SSE where Wolf shows up and says "can't let you do that Fox" I'd laugh my ass off. What's the big fixation with Krystal? I guess I understand that she'd be different with the staff and all, but Wolf is pretty cool imo. I hope his moves are varied enough from Fox/Falco though
 
TheMantyke said:
Forgive any typos, my keyboard is absolutely retarded today...

I still have a few questions about brawl now that everyone has calmed down about all of the charictor stuff.

1) How do you actually unlock all of these charictors? Are they in adventure mode, classic mode, stadium, or what?

Most are apparently unlocked in the SSE. Marth is unlocked by beating classic mode and Jigglypuff unlocked by beating event match 40 (at least that's what I've heard).

2) So, for the classic mode, how has master hand changed? Is he different at all or is he the same giant hand he was in Melee? And does anyone know if crazy hand is back?

He looks the same, I'm not sure about crazy hand

3) I'd think that with all of this extras such as my music and a coarse designer, they might remember my favorite of the minigames. Is "Board the platforms" back or is it gone once again?

I haven't heard, which probably means that it's gone :(

4) What are some of the trouphy's that brawl has?

I haven't been paying attention to that stuff, but I did see a wind waker ganondorf and some big Kremling from Donky Kong.

5) What is with all of the power ups sticker give you? Like the mgic stickers and such.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea12.html
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Boss?

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PT^

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Peach offers Fox Tea^

A Cannon is Fired:
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With the inclusion of Lucario, this game will be epic. Easily contends with Rock Band for best multiplayer game, I would think.
 
Arseus said:
Supposedly, Wolf is the last rep, not Krystal ... and I personally think that Marth looks much less masculine in Brawl >_>

ROB is there to pay homage to retro things and take up a character slot.
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Well we need more girls. We only have Zelda, Samus, Peach, Jiggly, and Nana right now. >_>;

And Marth is wayyy hot I love bishounen! <333

He acts so girly I love it!
 
Just a question: So far all the videos of SSE have had no audible dialog expect for the occasional laugh or grunt... what also worried me is that there was no written dialog. Take the Legend of Zelda games for example: No voice acting, but the text makes up for that. Are they going to do the same thing for SSE? It would be lame if the whole thing played out like a silent movie... I want it to have a similar thing the the Zelda games so at least the characters can "talk"
 
But can it surpass Metroid Prime? Both have an unplayable Ridley, so only time shall tell. IMO the only ways Brawl won't be great is (in a hypothetical situation):

A)Too many clones
B)Crappy online
C)Extremely unbalanced play (think pro Fox on steroids)
D)SSE too short
E)Glitchy Multiplayer

IMO, two or more of these things can break the game, but seeing as how it's not in (most of) our hands yet, it's probably best not to nominate it for either GOTY or the biggest disaster since ET for Atari.

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Kristy Haruka said:
Well we need more girls. We only have Zelda, Samus, Peach, Jiggly, and Nana right now. >_>;

And Marth is wayyy hot I love bishounen! <333

He acts so girly I love it!
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Jigglypuff can easily be male or female, same goes for Pikachu and P. Trainer's Pokémon (I have a feeling Lucario will have a male voice like the anime, but who's to say?). And while I agree Brawl is sort of lacking in the female department, there's no point in adding females for the hell of it. Metroid and F-Zero could've used some better representation, but unless the 35 roster turns out to be false (slim chance at this point), they didn't get it. The same could probably be said for the females. Besides, any girls playing have Snake's ass as compensation for girl power.

No further comment on Marth.
 
Arseus said:
But can it surpass Metroid Prime? Both have an unplayable Ridley, so only time shall tell. IMO the only ways Brawl won't be great is (in a hypothetical situation):

A)Too many clones
B)Crappy online
C)Extremely unbalanced play (think pro Fox on steroids)
D)SSE too short
E)Glitchy Multiplayer

IMO, two or more of these things can break the game, but seeing as how it's not in (most of) our hands yet, it's probably best not to nominate it for either GOTY or the biggest disaster since ET for Atari.
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I heard that SSE is going to be long as hell. Also I think there will be less clones this game.

They nerfed fox, and they have said that they tried to balance the gameplay as much as possible.

The wifi is going to be great. They might add region lock to make it less laggy.
 
Arseus said:
But can it surpass Metroid Prime? Both have an unplayable Ridley, so only time shall tell. IMO the only ways Brawl won't be great is (in a hypothetical situation):

A)Too many clones
B)Crappy online
C)Extremely unbalanced play (think pro Fox on steroids)
D)SSE too short
E)Glitchy Multiplayer

IMO, two or more of these things can break the game, but seeing as how it's not in (most of) our hands yet, it's probably best not to nominate it for either GOTY or the biggest disaster since ET for Atari.
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A: Probably not going to happen.
B: Judging by Japan vs. Kyoto, it will only really suck if you've got something crazy like New York vs. Tokyo vs. Germany vs. Australia Brawl or something.
C: It doesn't look that way from videos, but that's the X factor.
D: My bet is multiplayer will be a set number of stages for each character, but each character gets a different scenario. Think like 15-20 stages, but they're different for each character.
E: Probably not an issue based on what we've seen so far.
 
Deck Knight said:
A: Probably not going to happen.
B: Judging by Japan vs. Kyoto, it will only really suck if you've got something crazy like New York vs. Tokyo vs. Germany vs. Australia Brawl or something.
C: It doesn't look that way from videos, but that's the X factor.
D: My bet is multiplayer will be a set number of stages for each character, but each character gets a different scenario. Think like 15-20 stages, but they're different for each character.
E: Probably not an issue based on what we've seen so far.
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Very well said. Anyway I remember hearing that SSE takes a few hours (about 5 hours). I mean that is still longer than Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 (which only took me 4 hours max). Plus if it is different for each character than you can replay it over 30 times without it ever being the same.
 
There aren't -that- many more male characters than female characters. A lot of characters aren't human or even all that anthropomorphic.
 
True, I doubt (and hope) that noting I mentioned would prove to be an issue. I'm just stating that these are possible obstacles that Brawl may face, as we haven't exactly seen too much actual footage of any one thing. The exception maybe being multiplayer with all of the demoes, and that's the biggest part of Smash anyway.

Surgo said:
There aren't -that- many more male characters than female characters. A lot of characters aren't human or even all that anthropomorphic.
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Let's look at what we have so far :

Male: 24 Female:6 Unknown/Genderless:7

-Mario
-Luigi
-Peach
-Bowser
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
-Link
-Toon Link
-Zelda/Shiek
-Ganondorf
-Samus/Zero-Suit Samus
-Yoshi
-Kirby
-Meta Knight
-King Dedede
-Fox
-Falco
-Pikachu
-Jigglypuff
-Pokémon Trainer (Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard)
-Lucario
-Captain Falcon
-Ness
-Lucas
-Ice Climbers
-Pit
-Marth
-Ike
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Wario
-Pikmin and Olimar
-R.O.B.
-Snake
-Sonic

This isn't by slots, just actual characters. Yoshi and Meta Knight are a bit of a tossup but I can see them both as male. Granted, there aren't that many human characters, but this isn't supposed to really be a realistic fighter. And the majority of non-anthros are Pokemon, who can be either gender.
 
A)Too many clones - meh; it'll have less than ssbm, which I didn't even consider a problem in the first place
B)Crappy online - would hurt, but doesn't look to be a problem so far
C)Extremely unbalanced play (think pro Fox on steroids) - ban the char and you're done; on lower levels doesn't matter
D)SSE too short - lol who cares? You play the SSE to unlock stuff, and after that the game is multiplayer
E)Glitchy Multiplayer - this alone would kill the game
 
Arseus said:
A)Too many clones
B)Crappy online
C)Extremely unbalanced play (think pro Fox on steroids)
D)SSE too short
E)Glitchy Multiplayer
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imo, only E can make Smash not "great".

A) I love clones. Don't see it as a problem. Only provides proof to me that they added as much as they could in the time allotted.
B) Depends on what you mean. As long as "With Friends" works, I'm good. I plan to do multiplayer most often.
C) This might break it too actually. SSBM balance was fine though. It wasn't fully balanced, but no game is.
D) I'm hoping SSE is short, but from what I'm seeing it's not. Hope it's not too long
E) Multiplayer better be freakin amazing
 
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