SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

to be fair magnemite is already in every game anyways


I think they wouldn't have to have the base form in every game, no. Like R_N said earlier, its possible that part of the reason they're not forms in the first place but rather their own mon is so that they can be put in future gens without the need to bring back all the base species

Thats also even considering them as legendaries. We aren't sure how they're gonna be treated rn

I'm partially thinking they just might disappear from future games, like Mega and Dynamax. Although these are more like new forms so that is less likely.

As for breeding, I think it should stay "difficult". Sword and Shield added some shortcuts, but I wouldn't want it to be simpler. It is fairly simple to breed most Pokemon with maximum IVs in 5 areas and most moves are easy to get. A large point of breeding is the social aspect of trading Pokemon. If you breed 20 or so Pokemon, the next best one is probably just as good. You can trade that with someone for one of their bred Pokemon.

Everyone being able to easily get maximum IV Pokemon with little effort makes the rarity of good Pokemon go down. And it would not be consistent anyways. We cannot get all Pokemon types, so changing lanes and saying "everyone gets all the IVs" is a bit contradictory to that logic.
 
If they "disappear" it'd be like any given dexited mon, not like a mechanic.

I'm half expecting they just disappear them. But less likely as this is essentially a glorified regional variant.

I may have asked this in the past, but can bred Pokemon have Tera types? Or can be apply them after being bred?
 
I'm half expecting they just disappear them. But less likely as this is essentially a glorified regional variant.
I'm saying there's no reason to expect more than any of the other Pokemon present. They might be in the next game, they might not, but it's not the same as megas or g-maxes or anything like that.
I may have asked this in the past, but can bred Pokemon have Tera types? Or can be apply them after being bred?
Every Pokemon innately has a tera type. We don't know the specifics of how the type is selected (is it pure rng, weighted, can specific types pass down by breeding or is that more rng, etc) but any bred Pokemon should, yes, have their own tera type.
 
Exactly, having options is good.

This is extremely simplistic, specially when talking about videogames.

Games (objective-based games) are based on rules. Rules are what ultimately make a game a game. Being able to score a legit goal using your hand in a football match doesn't equal good, but it is an option, isn't it? Why can't I make any attack the type I want, whenever I want and even decide if it's going to be a critical hit or not as I please? This is, literally, an option you are giving to me. It is also an option to have the game ask you if you want to avoid every single stage and just beat it from the main menu, or to have a platformer ask you where do you specifically want to respawn after every death. Some may even defend that these are accesibility options, mistaking what accesibility truly is and strives for. There needs to be a deep correlation between the options offered and the general design of the game you are working with; games are about measured options coexisting with measured limitations to those options. This "having options is good" mantra is a lie, because it can't be, and will never be, adapted to a real scenario, I mean the mere idea is the anthitesis of ludology.

This is not to say games shouldn't have options. Just that more options doesn't equal a better product. I dislike the idea of breeding having no impact in Sword and Shield, for example, and while I value the options offered to a certain extent, since I don't want everybody to invest 90 hours into having a perfect legit team, I don't like either that the building process is turning so mechanical that at this point the Pokémon you get and train have no real meaning since the games are almost identical to Pokémon Showdown team builder, at which point there's no virtual relation between my playthrough, my Pokémon and my training and they are just random Pokémon catched and edited with mints and capsules.

And if you think this has no impact on the games whatsoever, then we both share very different concepts of what inmersion is.
 
iirc Khu has said a few times that you'll get an item from raids in the base game to change tera types
We know from leaks that there is an item to change tera typings, but i think its rare (or assumed rare)
Which tbfh doesn't surprise me as, as stated above, they've been doing their best to reduce the entry barrier to VGC as well as reducing the necessity to hack/clone pokemon...
And forcing you to a single tera of a legendary per cart would have been extremely counterproductive.
 
From a now-deleted tweet:
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Sierra's one of the people who get early access to the game and promised to upload footage later.

120 BP coverage move at the cost of your original typing (which may not even be a bad thing for certain mons).
 
Curious how easy it will be to teach Tera Blast in-game. 80 is a bit high for a move to be available early on (although obviously there is precedent for higher BP tms near the beginning of the game). But terastalizing has to be recharged in-game, unlike in multiplayer, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did make it available near the start
 
Curious how easy it will be to teach Tera Blast in-game. 80 is a bit high for a move to be available early on (although obviously there is precedent for higher BP tms near the beginning of the game). But terastalizing has to be recharged in-game, unlike in multiplayer, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did make it available near the start

With 80 power, I could see it being used by Normal types that don't get any decent Normal STAB options(especially special options like with Stantler/Wyrdeer), with the additional perk of it changing to whatever Tera type it has. Maybe that is why they seem to be adding so many Normal dualtypes in this game.
 
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With 80 power, I could see it being used Normal types that don't get any decent Normal STAB options(especially special options like with Stantler/Wyrdeer), with the additional perk of it changing to whatever Tera type it has. Maybe that is why they seem to be adding so many Normal dualtypes in this game.
Would also be really good for mons like gyrados that don’t have a good stab option at all. Pure flying gyrados with an effective 160 bp flying move sounds pretty terrifying
 
From a now-deleted tweet:
Screenshot_20221021_165919.jpg

Sierra's one of the people who get early access to the game and promised to upload footage later.

120 BP coverage move at the cost of your original typing (which may not even be a bad thing for certain mons).

Oh yeah, we're in the leak thread now. One of the leakers claimed this a while back, I guess it went under the radar because no one who couldn't help talking about leaks in the official thread let it slip when everyone was trying to estimate the base power from the trailer.


..But did people really ask Sierra to taking that down for being a spoiler? It's the base power of a move, was it really going to be a highlight of anyone's playthough experience to press Y and see it for themselves...
 
..But did people really ask Sierra to taking that down for being a spoiler? It's the base power of a move, was it really going to be a highlight of anyone's playthough experience to press Y and see it for themselves...

They're probably worried that mentioning it counts as breaking the embargo on preview information, because publishers can be pretty strict about what they can share even if it's really innocuous. And while I don't think Nintendo/TPC would ever take any sort of action over this, they might blacklist outlets/content creators from future previews/review copies for sharing anything they weren't explicitly told they could share
 
They're probably worried that mentioning it counts as breaking the embargo on preview information, because publishers can be pretty strict about what they can share even if it's really innocuous. And while I don't think Nintendo/TPC would ever take any sort of action over this, they might blacklist outlets/content creators from future previews/review copies for sharing anything they weren't explicitly told they could share

While a possibility, that isn't why they said the tweet was deleted:
 
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