SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

I'm not sure how that is even up for debate. Gen 1 is the real deal. It started it all and was front and center of the Pokemon craze. Later gens just didn't have nearly the impact. Pikachu is the franchise mascot. Charizard is perhaps the second franchise mascot in terms of popularity. Makes sense it reappears . Just odd the starters are being split up. I wouldn't mind if they picked and chose the best starters for competitive use at least. Snivy, Greninja can return while Chesnaught doesn't.

But we know Pokemon are picked for a number of reasons and not just competitive play.
 
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We're one Miltank evo away from Whitney able to run a formidable mono-Normal Johto team, and that's without counting Blissey. Who needs Clefable or Granbull when you can do this...
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With Charmander being a save file bonus for SwSh, but not actually counting for the Regional Dex, it makes me look back at Khu's tweets about the three Hisuian Evolutions "Not being in the Regional Dex but available in game". Maybe Peat block, Black Augurite and "a Stantler that knows a special move" are all PLA save file bonuses? This way it wouldn't make the evolutions Hisui exclusive - It would just lock their evo methods for this game to PLA. And similar to Big Pika and Eevee in Swsh, I can see the DLC bringing a way to obtain these evo methods, but the Save File Bonus being here as essentially an "early access" of sorts
 
Has there been discussion on Pawmi's signature move yet? Reviving an ally, even only once, just seems like such a valuable trait that I think it'll probably see use no matter how bad its stats are. Just look at Dugtrio with Arena Trap, or Shedinja with Wonder Guard: Ass mons otherwise that see usage in the high tiers (though Shedinja not as much) just because of how amazing trapping and Wonder Guard are. I think Pawmi's move could easily be up there with them, and while it's certainly too early to say I think it could end up being unhealthy. We're also talking about a 3rd stage evolution here, which Dugtrio and Shedinja are neither (there is Gothitelle though) I can't see its stats being below 400.

Apparently, the English names for the entire dex leaked. It was on 4Chan, so don't forget this:
https://pastebin.com/wkPEMccm

The names do sound plausible enough though.

I would love to believe this (I am very impatient when it comes to news), and the names are all really sound, but other than that, what makes this credible? People believed in Rolycosta from the name alone but that was fake. From my current standpoint, this is just the equivalent of a random Master Chief in Smash Ultimate photoshop job.
 
You know I at least respect that for this
Paradox Pokemon are actually called Continuum Pokemon. They appear in 'Continuum Anomalies', which are basically space-time distortions from PLA, only with the Continuum Pokemon as a boss. Their names appear as ??? until you bring it to one of the professors for examination.
Just completely bypasses giving names to these things and adds a bit of contradictory spice to leakers for flavor

reminds me of old, elaborate text smash bros leaks. nostalgic
 
Some of those names are good but I would be surprised if Quaxly's evolution's name actually referenced conquistadors, especially when Khu and Kaka indicated it's some sort of dancer

And the further down I look, the weirder the list is, both because there's no way this is pokedex order, and also because some names don't sound like something English localizers would (or should) go for, like "Sgully"
 
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Apparently, the English names for the entire dex leaked. It was on 4Chan, so don't forget this:
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https://pastebin.com/wkPEMccm

The names do sound plausible enough though.
Just gonna copy/paste this into the thread for easier reference later:
  1. Sprigatito (Grass)
  2. Stemagato (Grass)
  3. Florecera (Grass/Dark)
  4. Fuecoco (Fire)
  5. Escozilla (Fire)
  6. Volcaiman (Fire/Ghost)
  7. Quaxly (Water)
  8. Arquaxier (Water)
  9. Quaxistador (Water/Fighting)
  10. Lechonk (Normal)
  11. Trufflump (Normal/Ground)
  12. Pawmi (Electric)
  13. Jabolt (Electric/Fighting)
  14. Mittwatt (Electric/Fighting)
  15. Smoliv (Grass/Normal)
  16. Toliv (Grass/Normal)
  17. Belloliv (Grass/Normal)
  18. Fidough (Fairy)
  19. Muttoast (Fairy)
  20. Greavard (Ghost)
  21. Greavound (Ghost)
  22. Canight (Dark)
  23. Malanoir (Dark)
  24. Knitwit (Bug)
  25. Spoolder (Bug)
  26. Beetlroll (Bug)
  27. Scaraburow (Bug/Ground)
  28. Battal (Bug)
  29. Thrashoppr (Bug/Dark)
  30. Sgullywag (Flying/Electric)
  31. Squakaneer (Flying/Electric)
  32. Permakeet (Normal/Flying)
  33. Flamenca (Flying/Fighting)
  34. Mystrich (Psychic)
  35. Ostrance (Psychic)
  36. Orcatich (Ice)
  37. Cetitan (Ice)
  38. Dorsail (Water)
  39. Sailfarer (Water)
  40. Boltumm (Electric)
  41. Bellibolt (Electric)
  42. Lucideep (Water/Psychic)
  43. Malletot (Fairy/Steel)
  44. Malletilo (Fairy/Steel)
  45. Lucerness (Fairy/Steel)
  46. Obloon (Ghost/Steel)
  47. Obolisk (Ghost/Steel)
  48. Peppuny (Grass/Fire)
  49. Scodraig (Grass/Fire)
  50. Flarook (Fire)
  51. Armarouge (Fire/Psychic)
  52. Ceruledge (Fire/Ghost)
  53. Heirbloom (Poison/Rock)
  54. Thornament (Poison/Rock)
  55. Nackle (Rock)
  56. Palite (Rock)
  57. Palldier (Rock)
  58. Hexhaust (Poison/Steel)
  59. Ghastket (Poison/Steel)
  60. Wanderoot (Grass/Ghost)
  61. Rumblweed (Grass/Ghost)
  62. Scriblemur (Poison/Normal)
  63. Grafaiai (Poison/Normal)
  64. Mousada (Normal)
  65. Familimice (Normal)
  66. Klawf (Rock)
  67. Soilunge (Steel)
  68. Origrus (Flying/Dark)
  69. Umimaki (Dragon/Water)
  70. Ultimae (Water)
  71. Wiglett (Water)
  72. Wugtroupe (Water/Poison)
  73. Terracool (Grass)
  74. Terracoast (Grass/Ground)
  75. Floegon (Ice/Dragon)
  76. Tundrake (Ice/Dragon)
  77. Dragalanch (Ice/Dragon)
  78. Mankey (Fighting)
  79. Primeape (Fighting)
  80. Manquill (Fighting/Ghost)
  81. Pawniard (Dark/Steel)
  82. Bisharp (Dark/Steel)
  83. Knightuck (Dark/Steel)
  84. Dunsparce (Normal)
  85. Dunsledge (Normal)
  86. Girafarig (Normal/Psychic)
  87. Farigiraf (Normal/Psychic)
  88. Paldean Wooper (Poison/Ground)
  89. Noxinewt (Poison/Ground)
  90. Paldean Taurus
    • +Luchador Forme (Fighting)
    • +Aguador Forme (Water/Fighting)
    • +Fuegodor Forme (Fire/Fighting)
  91. Pyrahna
  92. Montjac
  93. Leopolar
  94. Caracopia
  95. Koraidon
    • +Sprinting Build
    • +Swimming Build
    • +Gliding Build
    • +TeraWarrior Build
  96. Miraidon
    • +Drive Mode
    • +Aquatic Mode
    • +Glide Mode
    • +TeraGuardian Mode
  97. Fracterra
    • +Inclusion Forme
    • +TeraCatalyst Forme
Paradox Pokemon are actually called Continuum Pokemon. They appear in 'Continuum Anomalies', which are basically space-time distortions from PLA, only with the Continuum Pokemon as a boss. Their names appear as ??? until you bring it to one of the professors for examination.
Also, all it'll take to prove or disprove this leak is one reveal, so if it's wrong, it won't stick around long.
Noticing now that the pastebin claims the scarab is Bug/Ground, but we've heard from the main leakers that it is Bug/Psychic.
They also claimed Farigiraf was mono-Psychic and Bellibolt wasn't mono-Electric, so I'm pretty sure they're just guessing based on art and names and don't actually know the types.
Some of those names are good but I would be surprised if Quaxly's evolution's name actually referenced conquistadors, especially when Khu and Kaka indicated it's some sort of dancer
Well there's a couple possibilities for that:
  1. Their leaks are coming from China, and the Chinese name referring to dancing doesn't mean the any of the other names will.
  2. Quaxistador could also be referring to a matador, which to a Chinese person who doesn't actually know what bull fighting is, could easily be mistaken for a flamenco dancer.
 
Apparently, the English names for the entire dex leaked. It was on 4Chan, so don't forget this:
View attachment 461500

https://pastebin.com/wkPEMccm

The names do sound plausible enough though.
I don't really believe it since he doesn't have Wugtrio and the 4 sublegend names are just puns instead of Chinese pinyin. We'll see what happens after the fact I guess, but for now I'm more about the Italian MS Paint thread because it has more soul.

  1. Their leaks are coming from China, and the Chinese name referring to dancing doesn't mean the any of the other names will.
  2. Quaxistador could also be referring to a matador, which to a Chinese person who doesn't actually know what bull fighting is, could easily be mistaken for a flamenco dancer.
Kaka actually made reference to its visual design though and he was the one to post the screenshot of its neck in the first place which Khu identified so it's not like they're misunderstanding English names. Personally I'm willing to give more credit to the 2 leakers that have been around over a random list of names and numbers that could be based off of what they've said in the first place.
 
I don't really believe it since he doesn't have Wugtrio and the 4 sublegend names are just puns instead of Chinese pinyin. We'll see what happens after the fact I guess, but for now I'm more about the Italian MS Paint thread because it has more soul.
"Wugtrio" is on the pastebin list, it's named "Wugtroupe". Also the pastebin leak is separate from the Khu/Kaka leaks so it not being in Chinese makes sense.

Kaka actually made reference to its visual design though and he was the one to post the screenshot of its neck in the first place which Khu identified so it's not like they're misunderstanding English names. Personally I'm willing to give more credit to the 2 leakers that have been around over a random list of names and numbers that could be based off of what they've said in the first place.
Where is this supposed picture of the Quaxly evo's collar? The only one I've seen is one supposedly of the Sprigitato evo, and that I'm pretty sure was debunked.
 
"Wugtrio" is on the pastebin list, it's named "Wugtroupe". Also the pastebin leak is separate from the Khu/Kaka leaks so it not being in Chinese makes sense.


Where is this supposed picture of the Quaxly evo's collar? The only one I've seen is one supposedly of the Sprigitato evo, and that I'm pretty sure was debunked.
Wugtrio is supposed to be the English name courtesy of Khu and his "overseas friend". The pinyin names are supposed to be in English and Japanese as linked because there have been legendaries that retain their Japanese names across all languages.


Also these images have been posted by Kaka and confirmed by Khu if you haven't really been following them.
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To be clear, neither leaker actually claimed Bellibolt was electric/psychic. Khu posted an obscure riddle referencing an electric frog that people assumed meant the type was electric/psychic, and he didn't correct them when they were wrong (he usually doesn't). People then asked Kaka about it and he responded with the thinking emoji, which people took to be confirmation. Kaka has said some things that have ended up being incorrect but largely the mistakes have been because this is a game of telephone where people are extrapolating too much from vague hints

One example of this that I am unsure about is the new crane pokemon that will apparently be a titan. I've seen several lists online claiming that it's flying/dark but I have no clue where that info originated
 
I could still totally see that being a matador.
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It's like feathery shoulder pads and filigree.
his "overseas friend"
Could easily be wrong or fucking with him, that's happened a few times this leak season.

Also, they could easily have only been using Wugtrio as a placeholder or decided to change it at some point, after the overseas friend told him.
 
For now I'll be taking those as fake, but if that's the case then I gotta respect the commitment to making this many fakemon names for mons we barely know anything about lmao. some really good ones in here

In the off-chance that its real, I'll find it absolutely hysterical that out of the many names I've tried to come up with for the Gen 9 mons, I manage to predict exactly one and its fucking Toliv
 
Wugtrio is supposed to be the English name courtesy of Khu and his "overseas friend". The pinyin names are supposed to be in English and Japanese as linked because there have been legendaries that retain their Japanese names across all languages.


Also these images have been posted by Kaka and confirmed by Khu if you haven't really been following them.
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Sprigatito's evo is gonna be Inteleon-tier hideous, isn't it? :facepalm:
 
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