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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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This trailer had neither the new mons listed in the supposed leak. Ergo the list is definitely fake.
If they were going to announce the Engine mon pre-release, they would've done it by now. I don't see why they would wait to reveal it after 2 trailers where it appeared. It's another Arrokuda situation, a new Pokemon that we knew was there but they never bothered to reveal it pre-release for some reason.
I just wanna see the starter evos already dang it!!! 
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Hiro? Who's that?
Hiro was a guy who knew of the Fairy type and Megas by early spring 2013. He used to work at the official Spanish Nintendo magazine and had some degree of inside knowledge, but, he didn't know as much as he insisted. He kept claiming Mega Mew and Mega Swampert (pre ORAS) were things up until XY were released.
Looks like now some of the new Pokémon will have Misty Surge and Grassy Surge
Could just be like sun and Moon where old mons got the weather abilities too. I personally think Gogoat and Florges are very likely candidates,
This makes sense since the original regular Pokemon to get Drizzle/Drought were Politoed and Ninetales. Misty Terrain, like with Hail, could get multiple new users like how Vanilluxe and Ninetales-A got Hail.
those definitely seem like the most likely candidates, grassy surge could be a few other things (cacturne mostly) but every returning fairy bar florges already has 2 abilities, so if they are going to old mons, florges is really the only one that would work
It makes sense that Grassy/Misty Surge would be distributed to other Pokémon since Rillaboom and Galarian Weezing are a starter and regional variant of Galar respectively, making them much less likely to be obtained easily in future regions (if at all). This riddle also soft-confirms Indeedee, since I don’t think it has appeared in any official footage.
In order for older Pokémon to be candidates for a Surge ability, they almost certainly need to have only one non-hidden ability as of Gen 8. How many existing Grass- and Fairy-type Pokémon are left who fit the bill?
In order for older Pokémon to be candidates for a Surge ability, they almost certainly need to have only one non-hidden ability as of Gen 8. How many existing Grass- and Fairy-type Pokémon are left who fit the bill?
Excluding Starters, Legendaries, and Mythicals:
Grass
- Oddish
- Bellsprout
- Exeggcute
- Leafeon (highly doubtful since they’d presumably also need to give 2nd Abilties to all the other Eeveelutions for parity)
- Cacnea
- Lileep (would presumably, though not necessarily, indicate a 2nd Ability for Anorith as well; although, I think it was confirmed by either Khu or Kaka that there were no Fossil mons in SV?)
- Plant Wormadam (would presumably come with 2nd Abilities for Sandy and Trash Cloaks)
- Cherubi (most likely disqualified because of Cherrim’s Ability-based form change)
- Carnivine
- Snover (I don’t really see them making Snover serve as both Hail setter and Grassy Terrain setter; stay in your lane!)
- Mow Rotom (this ain’t happening)
- Pansage (again, surely this’d mean 2nd Abilities for Pansear and Panpour, but also I’m pretty sure we know from leaks that the monkeys aren’t in anyways)
- Foongus
- Ferroseed
- Skiddo (pls don’t make me run two Gogoat just to have fun with Grass Pelt)
- Fomantis
- Dhelmise
Fairy
- Alolan Ninetales (probably safe to rule this one out since it’s a different region’s regional form, also see the note on Snover)
- Sylveon (see note on Leafeon)
- Spritzee
- Swirlix
- Carbink (Incidentally, I wonder, if they ever gave Carbink a 2nd Ability, would they do the same for Diancie for flavor’s sake? IIRC it’d be the only Legendary/Mythical to have two regular Abilities, aside from Zygarde who’s kind of a special case)
- Klefki
- Mimikyu (can definitely rule this one out due to its form gimmick)
- Milcery
Personally, I think the Misty setter will be Fidough’s evolution. The clues we have about it make me think it gets “baked” when it evolves, and having the mystical fey fog of Misty Terrain actually be steam from a piping hot baked bread dog feels like a very Game Freak sort of joke to me.
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I don’t expect them to do this, but what if the grass surge user is Electrode-H, with regular Electrode getting Electric Surge?
Even before Sun and Moon, I did have a fakemon idea for a Potato Battery that was Grass/Electric and could choose between Grassy Terrain setting ability or Electric Terrain setting ability, and it would be cool if Electrode did something similar.
Even before Sun and Moon, I did have a fakemon idea for a Potato Battery that was Grass/Electric and could choose between Grassy Terrain setting ability or Electric Terrain setting ability, and it would be cool if Electrode did something similar.
I mean they could give all the Eeveelutions the ability to set a weather or terrain
- Vaporeon: Drizzle
- Jolteon: Electric Surge
- Flareon: Drought
- Espeon: Psychic Surge
- Leafeon: Grassy Surge
- Glaceon: Snow Warning
- Sylveon: Misty Surge
Electrode already has 3 abilities, and while they might consider changing H-Electrode since its abilities were never visible, standard Electrode is not going to change.
Have we heard anything about whether other Hisui mons kept their abilities? Enamorus' abilities seem very lame with the potential exception of Contrary (depending on if it has the movepool to support it), and it would be nice to see Origin Dialga and Palkia get something to make them not completely boring mechanically.
Just give Umbreon Dark Aura, which is close enough. That Foul Play is gonna hurt.
That I'm pretty sure we would only know once datamines drop, which hasn't happened yet.
False.
Gen II introduced many of the series staple mechanics, such as genders, breeding, EV training, and so much more that has a place in the competitive scene, as well as just in general. Really can't say that about any other generation. As much as people overlook Gen II, they really were the best Pokemon sequels and one of those generations where you really felt GameFreak put there all into making them good.
EV Training was Gen 3, but other than that, Gen 2 were the first Pokemon games that weren't full of glitches, like the 1/256 Miss Glitch. Gen 2 also had Held Items, which mostly meant Leftovers in Gen 2 but became a lot more in later games.
The absolute best change was in Gen 3. You were finally able to check check a Move's Power, Accuracy, and Description before choosing to teach it instead of hoping it was good as it sounded if you had no idea what the move was.
Gen 3 was the first game to have EVs as we know them today. Gen 1 and 2 had different systems that let you max out all your stats.
I've seen countless Pikachu or Charmander merchandise outside in public, even to this day. The amount of times I've seen a Cyndaquil plush toy or backpack or whatever ranges approximately from 0 to 1. A Charizard card recently sold for $400,000. Pokemon peaked with gen 1. It has had up and down years of course and is clearly still very profitable, but I doubt it will ever reach the popularity it once had back in 1999.
The whole franchise was already extremely popular before gen 2 came along, so it is hard to argue that gen 2 launched Pokemon to mainstream success.