Paradox Gallade Trans confirmed?
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Paradox Gallade Trans confirmed?
Doesn't the Pokedex say that you basically have to starve one of Zweilous's heads in order to produce Hydriegion? Maybe the idea is supposed to be that people just stop producing Hydriegon because it's inhumane?
Iron Thorn is pretty similar.
Comsidering they have less BST than their present day counterparts, they got off fair.
If the legendary and paradox leaks are real.... sigh, another gen without any powerful special attacking Fighting types.
Was really hoping Scarlet!Volcarona would be just base Volcarona with the typing swapped so it could Quiver Dance and spam Aura Spheres (Focus Blasts?). We've only ever had one special-oriented Fighting type (not counting mixeds): Keldeo, which isn't even usable in any official formats.
At least we got our first ever special oriented Ground type in Scarlet!Magneton.
Was really hoping Scarlet!Volcarona would be just base Volcarona with the typing swapped so it could Quiver Dance and spam Aura Spheres (Focus Blasts?). We've only ever had one special-oriented Fighting type (not counting mixeds): Keldeo, which isn't even usable in any official formats.
At least we got our first ever special oriented Ground type in Scarlet!Magneton.
I find it kinda funny how we went from 0 Fighting/Electrics to 2 of them in the same gen, with Pawmi3 and Iron Hands.
Really need some clearer looks on Paradox Magneton, Hydreigon, Hariyama, and Delibird, bc its hard to tell whats really going on with them rn. I also really wanna see Irondreigon Ironladevoir and Delironbird up close to see if they're robots too.
Ironitar and Irondreigon losing some stats isn't the worst tradeoff in the world since they ended up gaining some speed, which is always an important stat.
as an aside, holy fuck that Salamence is OMEGA RAW, if you told me that was a legendary i would believe you bc goddamn that thing looks like an actual demon.
Really need some clearer looks on Paradox Magneton, Hydreigon, Hariyama, and Delibird, bc its hard to tell whats really going on with them rn. I also really wanna see Irondreigon Ironladevoir and Delironbird up close to see if they're robots too.
Ironitar and Irondreigon losing some stats isn't the worst tradeoff in the world since they ended up gaining some speed, which is always an important stat.
as an aside, holy fuck that Salamence is OMEGA RAW, if you told me that was a legendary i would believe you bc goddamn that thing looks like an actual demon.
you might not be far off: Mence and valiant both have a smidge more BST than the rest of the paradoxes. maybe they are the respective final encounters of the paradoxes?
Palossand called. He doesn't like you.
Juglius gains +2 HP, -25 ATK, -4 DEF, -3 SPATK, -10 SPDEF, +10 SPE
All the Paradoxes except Salamence and Galladevoir have 570 BST, the Pseudo based Paradoxes all have a lower BST than the regular versions it's just less noticeable with Tyranitar because all the lost points are from Sp. Atk and Sp. Def.
I think Roaring Moon might genuinely be the most aggressively engineered-to-be-badass Pokemon of all time, and by god it's working on me at least
Palossand, Camerupt, Gastrodon and Stunfisk want to know your location.
Alright, let me rephrase, an offensive Ground type that isn't ass nor mixed (looking at you retrofitted Sheer Forcers)
I mean, Paradox Gallade gets a solid 120 Special Attack with a good speed tier and OK STAB combo so it'll still do the job just fine.
in case the tweet gets nuked: OP muses that the line might be based on popular Japanese series Yatterman, with the mid evo being Gan-chan and the evolution being his nemesis, Doronjo
To be fair i don't think "okay stab combo" does it justice. Quite a strong offensive typing. OU has all of like 5 mons that switch into both stabs (4 if you don't wanna count moltres).
All this talk is making me interested in the other Paldea mons statspreads. And movepools. I am eager to see Cetitan's speed stat to see if its slush rush niche will be viable.
Reminder that last time the box legendaries' abilities had effects that were functionally identical to an existing ability, they turned out to have an undocumented extra effect. So even if the descriptions of Orichalcum Pulse and Hadron Engine end up looking similar to Drought and Electric Surge, keep an eye out for weird effects like them never expiring or something.
Or Orichaculm Sun and Hadron Terrain are their own separate, but related, weathers that have bonus effects on top of Sun and Electric Terrain.
I agree, considering how they're both at the bottom of their respective groups and have the 590 BSTs, they're probably the big deal ones for their respective time period.
But like... this is kinda weird when considering the version exclusive dynamic Salamence and Ttar, and Paramence and Ironitar have, you would think those two would be the bossman ones together.
Its decent, but I don't like how both types are resisted by Poison. A lot of poison-types can pivot into it and threaten it out if it isn't running Psychic coverage. I imagine this weakness will matter less when the Pokedex gets expanded more, but it will be a bit of a hassle in the early meta where these Poison-types are more viable & easier to slot on teams.
It's especially weird when you consider that Paramence and Irondreigon also have a dynamic where they've swapped typings. Feels like there are no clean dichotomies here.
This is my working theory, yeah. (For the record: called it.) That said, I imagine Quark Drive and Protosynthesis still care about Electric Terrain and Sun respectively, given the disappointment about no Fire paradoxes for Scarlet and the fact it would be lame to introduce like 16 new legendaries allowed in VGC which have useless abilities if the box legends aren't in play.
Speaking of the paradoxes, it stands out that none of them are obvious stinkers like Guzzlord. It depends what the abilities do -- one assumes they're either an offensive buff given these things all hit pretty hard (Iron Treads is the lowest at 112) or they do something different based on the Pokemon like Beast Boost did. But they pretty much all have the potential to be pretty good if they have a good movepool.
They also have significantly lower catch rates, presumably for the same reason.
what are you talking about it objectively superior to megamence in every way in terms of design
Aah I get it, the new Don and Paradox's abilities are:
| Ability Name | Effects | Bonus |
| Orichalcum Pulse | Drought | ....but on steroids |
| Protosynthesis | Chlorophyll | ....but on steroids |
| Hadron Engine | Electric Surge | ....but on steroids |
| Quark Drive | Surge Surfer | ....but on steroids |
you joke but this one actually makes sense even outside of Pokemon